American Bar Assoc says Trump is not following rule of law

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aggiehawg
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Good luck getting SCOTUS to overturn that decision.
Technically, Korematsu has never been overruled but is no longer considered precedent. Sotomayor had to be reminded of that a few terms ago.
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To the ABA, I respond with: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript

Thank you. Go **** yourself.
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pagerman @ work said:


Good luck getting SCOTUS to overturn that decision.

Do you read the 2nd Amendment in the same specific and limiting manner?
The 14th Amendment was written solely to address the issue of freed slaves. It had nothing to do with illegal aliens. But you know that.
G Martin 87
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Why don't we make a trade?

  • "shall not be infringed", except for nuclear weapons


in exchange for

  • "jurisdiction" doesn't mean "walked across the border illegally"
Ol Rock
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Where was the ABA when the border was bring overrun, when Trump's rights were being trampled by political litigators, when Trump's home was invaded by the FBI, when Biden was given a pass for his lawlessness for having dementia, but was still allowed to run the country.

What does the ABA have to say for no prosecution of the Epstein client list, for leaks coming out of the government that led to attacks on SCJs, for the rights of women when violated by men in costume, gangs taking over parts of US cities, for corrupt prosecutors, for overreaching when prosecuting J6 protesters but hardly any prosecution of BLM?

I wonder what financial incentives the ABA and it's affiliates have when DOGE stops fraudulent and corrupt money flowing out of Washington.

If the ABA wants to be taken seriously, they would need to hold democrats accountable, but they won't.
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The lunatics from the ABA used to solicit membership from me frequently until I told them to never call my office again.
But I know no matter what the waitress brings
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
TheEternalOptimist
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agaberto said:

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2025/02/aba-supports-the-rule-of-law/

February 10, 2025

FROM THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION

The ABA supports the rule of law

It has been three weeks since Inauguration Day. Most Americans recognize that newly elected leaders bring change. That is expected. But most Americans also expect that changes will take place in accordance with the rule of law and in an orderly manner that respects the lives of affected individuals and the work they have been asked to perform.

Instead, we see wide-scale affronts to the rule of law itself, such as attacks on constitutionally protected birthright citizenship, the dismantling of USAID and the attempts to criminalize those who support lawful programs to eliminate bias and enhance diversity.

We have seen attempts at wholesale dismantling of departments and entities created by Congress without seeking the required congressional approval to change the law. There are efforts to dismiss employees with little regard for the law and protections they merit, and social media announcements that disparage and appear to be motivated by a desire to inflame without any stated factual basis. This is chaotic. It may appeal to a few. But it is wrong. And most Americans recognize it is wrong. It is also contrary to the rule of law.

The American Bar Association supports the rule of law. That means holding governments, including our own, accountable under law. We stand for a legal process that is orderly and fair. We have consistently urged the administrations of both parties to adhere to the rule of law. We stand in that familiar place again today. And we do not stand alone. Our courts stand for the rule of law as well.

Just last week, in rejecting citizenship challenges, the U.S. District Judge John Coughenour said that the rule of law is, according to this administration, something to navigate around or simply ignore. "Nevertheless," he said, "in this courtroom and under my watch, the rule of law is a bright beacon which I intend to follow." He is correct. The rule of law is a bright beacon for our country.

In the last 21 days, more than a dozen lawsuits have been filed alleging that the administration's actions violate the rule of law and are contrary to the Constitution or laws of the United States. The list grows longer every day.

These actions have forced affected parties to seek relief in the courts, which stand as a bulwark against these violations. We support our courts who are treating these cases with the urgency they require. Americans know there is a right way and a wrong way to proceed. What is being done is not the right way to pursue the change that is sought in our system of government.

These actions do not make America stronger. They make us weaker. Many Americans are rightly concerned about how leaders who are elected, confirmed or appointed are proceeding to make changes. The goals of eliminating departments and entire functions do not justify the means when the means are not in accordance with the law. Americans expect better. Even among those who want change, no one wants their neighbor or their family to be treated this way. Yet that is exactly what is happening.

These actions have real-world consequences. Recently hired employees fear they will lose their jobs because of some matter they were assigned to in the Justice Department or some training they attended in their agency. USAID employees assigned to build programs that benefit foreign countries are being doxed, harassed with name-calling and receiving conflicting information about their employment status. These stories should concern all Americans because they are our family members, neighbors and friends. No American can be proud of a government that carries out change in this way. Neither can these actions be rationalized by discussion of past grievances or appeals to efficiency. Everything can be more efficient, but adherence to the rule of law is paramount. We must be cognizant of the harm being done by these methods.

Moreover, refusing to spend money appropriated by Congress under the euphemism of a pause is a violation of the rule of law and suggests that the executive branch can overrule the other two co-equal branches of government. This is contrary to the constitutional framework and not the way our democracy works. The money appropriated by Congress must be spent in accordance with what Congress has said. It cannot be changed or paused because a newly elected administration desires it. Our elected representatives know this. The lawyers of this country know this. It must stop.

There is much that Americans disagree on, but all of us expect our government to follow the rule of law, protect due process and treat individuals in a way that we would treat others in our homes and workplaces. The ABA does not oppose any administration. Instead, we remain steadfast in our support for the rule of law.

We call upon our elected representatives to stand with us and to insist upon adherence to the rule of law and the legal processes and procedures that ensure orderly change. The administration cannot choose which law it will follow or ignore. These are not partisan or political issues. These are rule of law and process issues. We cannot afford to remain silent. We must stand up for the values we hold dear. The ABA will do its part and act to protect the rule of law.

We urge every attorney to join us and insist that our government, a government of the people, follow the law. It is part of the oath we took when we became lawyers. Whatever your political party or your views, change must be made in the right way. Americans expect no less.

William R. Bay, president of the American Bar Association

Another leftist organization that needs to be dismantled.

Trump is the greatest defender of the law and our country.
Lawyers continue to enrich themselves by adding more and more laws to the books. The more laws there are on the books, the richer lawyers get.
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Burn down ABA
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That is what drives me crazy about the legal system. Medicine is complicated because the human body is just complicated. It isn't like we invented it then made it difficult to understand and navigate!
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ABA was getting money from USAID. They should be prohibited from commenting on it.
IDaggie06
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I'm surprised this wasn't posted here yesterday:


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Krautag81
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I guess lawyers can be wrong….imagine that!
 
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