doubledog said:

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Do we really want to bankrupt OK and LA? Cause that is what we would do if you legalize casino gambling.

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Why would I give two ****s about LA and Ok? If anything, bankrupting their economy means less NIL money being funneled into their colleges.

Just give people a choice. If they want to gamble, let them. If the market bears it, build casinos.
It's not that complicated.

DrEvazanPhD said:

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Teslag said:

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What else should mommy government protect us from?

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Covid vaccines?

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Was against government mandates for those too

SociallyConditionedAg said:

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Anybody want to trade the Lake Charles economy with any city in Texas? Casinos are fool's gold.

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While I don't disagree with your premise, I'd take LC economy over port Arthur economy.

Let's not kid ourselves. Within the great state of Texas, there is already every crime being committed that you could, and likely couldn't, even imagine. Casinos aren't going to bring in new crime.

I agree that the establishment of casinos needs to be zoned, for a variety of reasons.

Gambling in Texas.
I'll bet on it.

My inclination is the government shouldn't restrict gambling. I see the arguments to restrict it, but it seems like legislating morality.
That said, if gambling really is addictive and harms people, could it be appropriate for government to restrict it?

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Casinos aren't going to bring in new crime.

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Not "new" crime. Just more of the old crime.


I'm no anti-gambling by the way. I'd be okay with limited licenses setting up destination-resort type places.

T dizl televizl said:

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I would say that in theory I'm pro legalizing gambling because I think people should be allowed to make their own decisions.

But if I had to vote I'd probably vote against as a NIMBY. It isn't going to be like Vegas. It'll be more like Shreveport. Attracts crime and is a tax on the poor who aren't smart enough to not blow their pay check immediately when they get it.

Again I think in theory it should be legal but in practice think it is a dredge on society.

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This is where I land. If it's gets legalized I'm not going to throw a tantrum but it's better if it doesn't.

I have the same thoughts around weed. Shouldn't be illegal if alcohol is legal, but I would absolutely outlaw smoking weed in public. Public weed is a nuisance.

Even though I have no issues with full on casinos, and strongly support their development and legalization in Texas, start with legalizing on-site sports betting.

Having ticket windows/sportsbooks with bars and restaurants would be awesome in Texas cities and do very well imo. And you avoid the trash that comes with cheap table games and penny slots.

But again... Give me those too

Any casino is going to have tons of all enemy slots. It's a huge money maker

For example:

Nevada casinos net winnings in April:

Blackjack $110.2 million
Craps: $30.3 million
Roulette: $35.9 million
Baccarat $76.1 million
Sports $30.8 million
Penny slots $216.6 million

[Source: Nevada Gaming Control]

— David Payne Purdum (@DavidPurdum) May 29, 2024

Oh yes I know. I'm just saying a step one could be the legalization of on site sports betting first and that'd be a big step. But the full casino is where the state needs to go.

Just because Louisiana is poor and creates **** casinos doesn't mean that would be the result here. The level of interested investors and class of gambler in the Texas market should create a cleaner and nicer casino experience. And that said, some Louisiana properties are completely fine.

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class of gambler in the Texas market

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This "class" of gambler are the ones that make the Louisiana casinos so dirty.

This isn't Monte Carlo. Casinos run on money from poor people.

Gambling might be the perfect pyramid -esque scheme IMO

Massive supporter of everyone has free will of course but I can't deny there is some hypocrisy at play here in this regard.

And I know there is at least one here that has blasted pron legality while saying this is cool.

That being said, I have no real problem with it on the legal side. Plus, It's going to happen. There is wayyyy too much money at hand and current politicians are being buttered up as we speak.

Teslag said:

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DrEvazanPhD said:

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Teslag said:

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What else should mommy government protect us from?

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Covid vaccines?

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Was against government mandates for those too

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Free, safe, effective?

This discussion would not exist 50 years ago. Just evidence of the decline of the culture.

Jack Boyett said:

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This discussion would not exist 50 years ago. Just evidence of the decline of the culture.

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52 years ago we had a fully functioning ***** house in Texas. 15 years before that we had 30+ gambling houses/casinos in Galveston. But go on about the culture.

Is there a vote coming up on gambling in Texas?

VedderAg said:

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Is there a vote coming up on gambling in Texas?

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No. Patrick won't allow it. Needs to make sure delta 8 and 9 gummies get banned

So we are pro personal freedom, but just not freedom to do this, or that, definitely not that, and nope you can't do that either?

Captain Winky said:

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So we are pro personal freedom, but just not freedom to do this, or that, definitely not that, and nope you can't do that either?

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A lot of posters are major NIMBYs when it comes to personal freedom. They are only conservative (the commonly accepted definition of the past 50 years of less government intrusion) when it comes to theoretical discussion. As soon as it can become a practical reality they turn into the church lady from SNL.

Casinos don't hold a candle to the damage that the gambling apps already do. Any gambling addict is already getting their fix that way, whether Texas "legalizes" gambling or not. It's a dishonest argument. Most just don't want a casino near them because they don't want their property values to be affected, and have no issue with a statewide ban as a result.

One more thought, I do wonder if bringing Casinos to Texas would finally break the current reservation system in OK and force the money out of the pockets of a few select families to be spread out among the majority of the populace.

Probably not, and is probably worth its own thread, but I think we have enough data now that the reservation system is completely broken and has drastically held back the average American Indian.

Casinos can bring crime but if you build them in ****hole places like Houston it won't make a difference

SunrayAg said:

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It should be legal.

And competent adults should be able to make their own choices…

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What a concept.

Remember when "conservative" meant limited government?

My issue with casinos isn't the morality issue. It's the "unlocked footlocker" issue from Full Metal Jacket. Private Pyle left his footlocker unlocked and left himself open to thievery. (If it weren't for ********s like you there wouldn't be any thievery in this world). Giving the opportunity to criminals just invites the criminals into your home.



Keep your footlocker lockedm

One thought that just occurred to me.
My wife and I like to make two trips per year to the Golden Nugget in Lake Charles. That's roughly a 3 hour trip, and that is my maximum distance that I will travel to go to a casino. That said, and if I apply that thought to all of my fellow Texans, that would mean that the casino would need to be built somewhere around Waco/Hillsboro to get the most traffic. Maybe another one out by San Angelo.


I don't see casinos going into major metropolitan areas. Maybe your corner video poker joints.

gkaggie08 said:

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On this issue, I am completely ambivalent. We have casinos, we don't have casinos, I don't care. I've been across the river a few times and been to Lake Charles, but gambling isn't my thing. If I'm there, I'm going to be in the penny slots.

However, these Sands Las Vegas commercials are really pushing me toward voting against casinos in the state. This isn't a a moral issue for me, it's that these jackasses want to skirt around the bush on what they want. I guess 'casino' doesn't focus group as well as 'resort destination'.

If you aren't honest enough to tell me, mr voter, what you would like me to vote for, I'm inclined to vote against you on principle, and maybe a little spite

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THe fact that the Sands Las Vegas company doesn't mention gambling or casinos in those ads and calls them "destination resorts" should be an indication how shady they are

I like the way Boston did the casino. It's concentrated in an area. I'm not opposed to casinos, I like to gamble. But, I do not want them in my town.

Buford T. Justice said:

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One thought that just occurred to me.
My wife and I like to make two trips per year to the Golden Nugget in Lake Charles. That's roughly a 3 hour trip, and that is my maximum distance that I will travel to go to a casino. That said, and if I apply that thought to all of my fellow Texans, that would mean that the casino would need to be built somewhere around Waco/Hillsboro to get the most traffic. Maybe another one out by San Angelo.


I don't see casinos going into major metropolitan areas. Maybe your corner video poker joints.

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I am sure they have all the market survey data that says exactly that. I am thinking BCS would be ground zero.

bmks270 said:

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Gambling is literally rigged games that hijack human physiology.

Shouldn't be legal.

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Yet some people think that alcohol and marijuana should be legal.

Don't want casinos in Texas.

I go to Lake Charles 3-4 times a year and Las Vegas 2-3 times a year. I would be in favor of a casino within an hour of Houston, Dallas and somewhere in the hill country between Austin/San Antonio. But require a TPC level of golf course in each venue. I always golf at both courses in Lake Charles and have played Shadow Creek and some other great courses in Vegas. It is a 3 day escape from reality and I would rather spend the money in Texas.

TAMUallen said:

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Gambling is ok. Just like alcohol. Just like tobacco. Just like weed.

People who can't handle it well aren't well suited for it and it isn't my job to police them.

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Now do crack, heroine, and fentanyl

Hate to tell y'all this...but gambling is already legal in Texas


Its called driving without uninsured motorist coverage

I'd be fine legalizing online sports gambling only. Don't really want casinos and can't really come up with an argument against them other than the fact that I don't want one in my city.

We go to choctaw and westbay up in oklahoma when
we go to my lakehouse. they aren't trashy. they're well run and nice. i just don't like the people.

TresPuertas said:

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I'd be fine legalizing online sports gambling only. Don't really want casinos and can't really come up with an argument against them other than the fact that I don't want one in my city.

We go to choctaw and westbay up in oklahoma when
we go to my lakehouse. they aren't trashy. they're well run and nice. i just don't like the people.

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I wish that we could play online poker(legally)in Texas. Twenty years ago had severe health problem and had to spend a couple of months at the house and used it to pass the time.