Are you OK with Musk accessing your IRS info to root out fraud?

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Old May Banker
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ETFan said:

Yeah, say what you want about me. My identity isn't tied to politicians like some appear to be in here.

Biden was ineffectual. Obama didn't make good on many promises. Hillary was a terrible candidate, as was Kamala. I've never had a political sticker, shirt, hat, youtube subscription, or 24/7 TV of any of these people. That's cult *****


What's the word? Simp? People simp'ing for a billionaire. Incredible.

Tell us who you'd have reviewing .gov expenses, fraud, and waste?
Philip J Fry
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Really weak attempt at straw man
one safe place
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Rather DOGE and Musk have a look at it than any government employee, IRS included.
TexasAggie73
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Only if he releases his and Trumps return.
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Ran into trouble with IRS one time as I had employed a PA and not a CPA to do my taxes back in 83 or (85???).
I knew his idea was shaky but "What the hell!"
He got a little exuberant with deductions!
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Old May Banker said:

ETFan said:

Yeah, say what you want about me. My identity isn't tied to politicians like some appear to be in here.

Biden was ineffectual. Obama didn't make good on many promises. Hillary was a terrible candidate, as was Kamala. I've never had a political sticker, shirt, hat, youtube subscription, or 24/7 TV of any of these people. That's cult *****


What's the word? Simp? People simp'ing for a billionaire. Incredible.

Tell us who you'd have reviewing .gov expenses, fraud, and waste?
Not a billionaire. Start there.

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TexasAggie73 said:

Only if he releases his and Trumps return.


Yea I'm getting audited now. I'm sure the agent will divulge her returns, if only I'd ask.

Also begs to differ, who then would scrutinize their returns, you not getting a 1040EZ like most the loudest minions do.
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txwxman said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

p1 Claire said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

p1 Claire said:

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p1 Claire said:

I trust Elon Musk with my IRS data more than I trust the IRS with it.
. You trust a guy who has 13 children with 4 different women, smokes pot on air and founded two major companies with heavy government subsidies as a major part of their success. Interesting.
I didn't say I trust him to be my husband...I'm not sure I see your point.
. Everyone seems to think Musk is incorruptible, when he has major business interests all over the world. I am more of a trust but verify kind of guy. As I think all should be.
Do you not think IRS agents are corruptible? If the richest man in the world can be corruptible, and an IRS agent making <$80k can be corruptible, I will take my chances with the billionaire 10/10 times. Did I ever say he's a perfect person? No. But I don't trust much that has been going on over the past several years and I'll put my trust in the change, not the status quo.
Lets see. Do I trust a low level accountant who stands to go to jail for a long long time and lose their job or do I trust a billionaire who can weaponize all of our data to make billions and billions and not go to jail? That's the question you're asking me? I think I would trust the low level accountant. Call me crazy.

Must be loyal to Trump and Musk. If they do it, it is right and proper. Trust them!

You don't have to be loyal to them. We know who your heroes are.
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Rockdoc said:

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I didn't trust the IRS before…and I certainly don't trust Musks team. That tickle everyone feels is a political appointee giving a procto exam to all your personal data.
I am not surprised you feel that way.

Who ran the last administration? What info were they accessing? Why weren't you questioning it?

That poster doesn't trust Musk but was ok with Hunter sitting in on high level top secret presidential meetings. Right.
And using stolen classified documents on Ukraine to enrich himself.
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jr15aggie said:

I'm still trying to figure out how BILLIONS of Gov't funds go missing all the time... but yet, they have no issue at all tracking & monitoring the taxes owed for 150+ million working Americans!


Curious as to what you're referencing?
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Absolutely! Wish it would've been done years ago.
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Billionaires are inherently untrustworthy?
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TexasAggie73 said:

Only if he releases his and Trumps return.
Trump's tax returns were illegally accessed and released to the media by an IRS contractor.

My company received a notice from the IRS stating the same contractor illegally accessed our tax returns as well.

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AggieHammer2000 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Kashchei said:

The government already knows everything about me and I'm sure they've had my data stolen countless times, so what's one more agency poking at it?
. It wasn't ok in the past, but it's ok now?
Wait. You're suggesting Elon Musk is stealing our data?
No idea, but I can't do a FOIA request to find out. I am sure it's all in the up and up. Absolute power never corrupted anyone right.


How does he have absolute power? Can he just take our tax dollars? Please explain.
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infinity ag said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Kashchei said:

The government already knows everything about me and I'm sure they've had my data stolen countless times, so what's one more agency poking at it?
. It wasn't ok in the past, but it's ok now?
Wait. You're suggesting Elon Musk is stealing our data?

I wonder if we took all the non billionaires in the US and added up their net worth, I don't think it will add up to Musk's 433B.
This can't be serious?
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ETFan said:

Old May Banker said:

ETFan said:

Yeah, say what you want about me. My identity isn't tied to politicians like some appear to be in here.

Biden was ineffectual. Obama didn't make good on many promises. Hillary was a terrible candidate, as was Kamala. I've never had a political sticker, shirt, hat, youtube subscription, or 24/7 TV of any of these people. That's cult *****


What's the word? Simp? People simp'ing for a billionaire. Incredible.

Tell us who you'd have reviewing .gov expenses, fraud, and waste?
Not a billionaire. Start there.



Surrender accepted.
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Stonegateag85 said:

I don't trust musk, the irs or any politicians really.
This x1000
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cupcakesprinkles said:

Nuke_Ag05 said:

Looking at these tweets, sounds like the right people are "Reeeeing". Besides that, my tax data has been in the hands of Kleptocrats for years. I don't mind if it's in the hands of those who are doing what they need to do to continue to expose government waste, crooks and the Ponzi scheme that is the irs.



There are some "very concerned" people as well who didn't have any questions about the last admin but now suddenly do.
. Like who? Name names.
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fav13andac1)c said:

jr15aggie said:

I'm still trying to figure out how BILLIONS of Gov't funds go missing all the time... but yet, they have no issue at all tracking & monitoring the taxes owed for 150+ million working Americans!


Curious as to what you're referencing?

You serious? Don't file your taxes and see exactly what I believe he's referencing.
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How is Musk accessing data any different from what we have now? An unelected bureaucrat who works for the IRS already has access to my information. If the president appoints another team of unelected bureaucrats to root out corruption and fraud, how is it any different from me? Are IRS personnel more virtuous than Musk personnel? I'll take my chances with Musk.
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jwhaby said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Kashchei said:

The government already knows everything about me and I'm sure they've had my data stolen countless times, so what's one more agency poking at it?
. It wasn't ok in the past, but it's ok now?
Wait. You're suggesting Elon Musk is stealing our data?
No idea, but I can't do a FOIA request to find out. I am sure it's all in the up and up. Absolute power never corrupted anyone right.


How does he have absolute power? Can he just take our tax dollars? Please explain.
. He can direct them to his cronies. Is Trump going to stop him? There is a reason Trump is inserting loyalists and not experienced people. We can't request the records so there is no way to find out. Doesn't seem to bother anyone here. That's nuts to me.
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TexasAggie73 said:

Only if he releases his and Trumps return.
What for? So Letitia James and Alvin Bragg can go through them and make up felony charges about how recording legal settlements as legal expenses is a crime?
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Given a choice between DOGE looking at my tax returns for fraud vs IRS agents looking to see if I sent $600 via Venmo, I'll take DOGE everytime.
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Old May Banker said:

ETFan said:

Old May Banker said:

ETFan said:

Yeah, say what you want about me. My identity isn't tied to politicians like some appear to be in here.

Biden was ineffectual. Obama didn't make good on many promises. Hillary was a terrible candidate, as was Kamala. I've never had a political sticker, shirt, hat, youtube subscription, or 24/7 TV of any of these people. That's cult *****


What's the word? Simp? People simp'ing for a billionaire. Incredible.

Tell us who you'd have reviewing .gov expenses, fraud, and waste?
Not a billionaire. Start there.



Surrender accepted.
Good job buddy, your team scored a point!

88planoAg said:

Billionaires are inherently untrustworthy?
In positions of power? Yes, absolutely. That amount of money buys anything.

I don't need to provide proof of that statement, look at Musk, standing behind the POTUS and the resolute desk. His position now of "oversite", aka access to anything anywhere with zero accountability.

You can deflect to "who would you choose" all day long, it's irrelevant to what's happening right now.
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CampSkunk said:

How is Musk accessing data any different from what we have now? An unelected bureaucrat who works for the IRS already has access to my information. If the president appoints another team of unelected bureaucrats to root out corruption and fraud, how is it any different from me? Are IRS personnel more virtuous than Musk personnel? I'll take my chances with Musk.
There's severe consequences for nefarious usage by an IRS employee. They go through training for their job and the systems they use.

Has musk and team? We don't know, we're not allowed to know anything, but hey, I totally trust them!
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AggieHammer2000 said:

jwhaby said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Kashchei said:

The government already knows everything about me and I'm sure they've had my data stolen countless times, so what's one more agency poking at it?
. It wasn't ok in the past, but it's ok now?
Wait. You're suggesting Elon Musk is stealing our data?
No idea, but I can't do a FOIA request to find out. I am sure it's all in the up and up. Absolute power never corrupted anyone right.


How does he have absolute power? Can he just take our tax dollars? Please explain.
. He can direct them to his cronies. Is Trump going to stop him? There is a reason Trump is inserting loyalists and not experienced people. We can't request the records so there is no way to find out. Doesn't seem to bother anyone here. That's nuts to me.
Who are Musk's cronies? Damn near anyone he has been in business with, had children with, etc hates his guts mainly out of pure jealousy and scorn.

Musk suffers no fools and I cannot imagine he suffers criminals very well.

What records do you want to see and what qualifies you to audit their work? Or who do you want auditing their work? The press / MSM? GAO? OMB? Those corrupt OIGs? Woke arse Big 4 like Deloitte, PWc, EY and KPMG?

And as already explained, you can absolutely request the records. Let us know which ones you are looking for.
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ETFan said:

Old May Banker said:

ETFan said:

Old May Banker said:

ETFan said:

Yeah, say what you want about me. My identity isn't tied to politicians like some appear to be in here.

Biden was ineffectual. Obama didn't make good on many promises. Hillary was a terrible candidate, as was Kamala. I've never had a political sticker, shirt, hat, youtube subscription, or 24/7 TV of any of these people. That's cult *****


What's the word? Simp? People simp'ing for a billionaire. Incredible.

Tell us who you'd have reviewing .gov expenses, fraud, and waste?
Not a billionaire. Start there.



Surrender accepted.
Good job buddy, your team scored a point!

88planoAg said:

Billionaires are inherently untrustworthy?
In positions of power? Yes, absolutely. That amount of money buys anything.

I don't need to provide proof of that statement, look at Musk, standing behind the POTUS and the resolute desk. His position now of "oversite", aka access to anything anywhere with zero accountability.

You can deflect to "who would you choose" all day long, it's irrelevant to what's happening right now.

I don't have a "team"... I have common sense that dictates someone should be cleaning up waste and fraud. If Elon has the team and technology best capable of finding that, it's a good thing. The f'ing bureaucrats from the last half century damn sure didn't.
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Its interesting that of the OP's last 15 posts 9 have been OPs of "What do you think of ????" type questions that I think are loaded BS designed to get you to question, from the left, Trump's actions.

I have to admit they are cleverly cloaked.
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ETFan said:



88planoAg said:

Billionaires are inherently untrustworthy?
In positions of power? Yes, absolutely. That amount of money buys anything.

I don't need to provide proof of that statement, look at Musk, standing behind the POTUS and the resolute desk. His position now of "oversite", aka access to anything anywhere with zero accountability.

You can deflect to "who would you choose" all day long, it's irrelevant to what's happening right now.
ALL billionaires are in positions of power as you point out.

At what level of net worth do people become inherently trustworthy?

Maybe we should trust the House oversight committees since they were elected to control the purse springs and provide oversight of the executive and have done such a fabulous job thus far.

I do not understand the reluctance to have a peak underneath the hood and to fix obvious broken things that will cause the engine to stop working.

This is all about "but what if he spills a drop of oil? Who will make sure he wipes it up super clean and does not just leave it there".

Its chicken little thinking on crack.
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flown-the-coop said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

jwhaby said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Kashchei said:

The government already knows everything about me and I'm sure they've had my data stolen countless times, so what's one more agency poking at it?
. It wasn't ok in the past, but it's ok now?
Wait. You're suggesting Elon Musk is stealing our data?
No idea, but I can't do a FOIA request to find out. I am sure it's all in the up and up. Absolute power never corrupted anyone right.


How does he have absolute power? Can he just take our tax dollars? Please explain.
. He can direct them to his cronies. Is Trump going to stop him? There is a reason Trump is inserting loyalists and not experienced people. We can't request the records so there is no way to find out. Doesn't seem to bother anyone here. That's nuts to me.
Who are Musk's cronies? Damn near anyone he has been in business with, had children with, etc hates his guts mainly out of pure jealousy and scorn.

Musk suffers no fools and I cannot imagine he suffers criminals very well.

What records do you want to see and what qualifies you to audit their work? Or who do you want auditing their work? The press / MSM? GAO? OMB? Those corrupt OIGs? Woke arse Big 4 like Deloitte, PWc, EY and KPMG?

And as already explained, you can absolutely request the records. Let us know which ones you are looking for.
. Are you offering to do a FOIA for me? I would like to see it all instead of getting drips and drabs. Some of the stuff he's tweeted has already been debunked. Do you honestly think he will serve up red meat on Republican misdeeds? Last I checked USAID was set up by Congress by both Dems and Reps.
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ETFan said:

CampSkunk said:

How is Musk accessing data any different from what we have now? An unelected bureaucrat who works for the IRS already has access to my information. If the president appoints another team of unelected bureaucrats to root out corruption and fraud, how is it any different from me? Are IRS personnel more virtuous than Musk personnel? I'll take my chances with Musk.
There's severe consequences for nefarious usage by an IRS employee. They go through training for their job and the systems they use.

Has musk and team? We don't know, we're not allowed to know anything, but hey, I totally trust them!
But I bet you trusted Biden and Soros right ?
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AggieHammer2000 said:

flown-the-coop said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

jwhaby said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

AggieHammer2000 said:

Kashchei said:

The government already knows everything about me and I'm sure they've had my data stolen countless times, so what's one more agency poking at it?
. It wasn't ok in the past, but it's ok now?
Wait. You're suggesting Elon Musk is stealing our data?
No idea, but I can't do a FOIA request to find out. I am sure it's all in the up and up. Absolute power never corrupted anyone right.


How does he have absolute power? Can he just take our tax dollars? Please explain.
. He can direct them to his cronies. Is Trump going to stop him? There is a reason Trump is inserting loyalists and not experienced people. We can't request the records so there is no way to find out. Doesn't seem to bother anyone here. That's nuts to me.
Who are Musk's cronies? Damn near anyone he has been in business with, had children with, etc hates his guts mainly out of pure jealousy and scorn.

Musk suffers no fools and I cannot imagine he suffers criminals very well.

What records do you want to see and what qualifies you to audit their work? Or who do you want auditing their work? The press / MSM? GAO? OMB? Those corrupt OIGs? Woke arse Big 4 like Deloitte, PWc, EY and KPMG?

And as already explained, you can absolutely request the records. Let us know which ones you are looking for.
. Are you offering to do a FOIA for me? I would like to see it all instead of getting drips and drabs. Some of the stuff he's tweeted has already been debunked. Do you honestly think he will serve up red meat on Republican misdeeds? Last I checked USAID was set up by Congress by both Dems and Reps.
Nope, USAID was set up by the Kennedy admin. Oh and just stop with the low grade moral equivalence BS.
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I'm good with it.
The only person I trust more than Trump is Elon.
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
 
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