AtticusMatlock said:
Latest update:
No fever. Stable condition. Doing some work and reading.
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-02/pope-francis-condition-stable-and-he-does-not-have-a-fever.html
go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
This. The clergy is not the faith.agracer said:go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
Needa another star.B-1 83 said:This. The clergy is not the faith.agracer said:go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
The ignorant Catholic bashing on these threads never ceases to amaze…..
Out of the mouth comes the overflow of the heart.Quote:
One can be both.
In the Pope's case, I'd imagine God knows what's in the heart of the one who leads His church.
That said, thank God the Pope will be alright and can continue to lead the church.
All salvation comes from Christ through his Catholic Church.
— Catholic Answers (@catholiccom) February 15, 2025
That is heresy. 100% false.Tom Kazansky 2012 said:All salvation comes from Christ through his Catholic Church.
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v1rotate92 said:
Unfortunately, his death, though tragic, would save lives
It seems that should have been "catholic church" not "Catholic Church".Ellis Wyatt said:That is heresy. 100% false.Tom Kazansky 2012 said:All salvation comes from Christ through his Catholic Church.
— Catholic Answers (@catholiccom) February 15, 2025
B-1 83 said:This. The clergy is not the faith.agracer said:go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
The ignorant Catholic bashing on these threads never ceases to amaze…..
B-1 83 said:This. The clergy is not the faith.agracer said:go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
The ignorant Catholic bashing on these threads never ceases to amaze…..
why does any church need a pastor or leaders then?Kvetch said:B-1 83 said:This. The clergy is not the faith.agracer said:go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
The ignorant Catholic bashing on these threads never ceases to amaze…..
Guess it just raises the question as to why you need the clergy then.
A new modern Pope looks like what?infinity ag said:
Time to call it a day like Ratzinger did. Retire and enjoy your days.
I liked this Pope as he said some positive stuff. Usually all they care about is "heathens" and how to "convert the world" which is total bs.
Time for a new modern pope.
But that's NOT what was meant.....and is heresy. From the former Catholic altar boy.American Hardwood said:It seems that should have been "catholic church" not "Catholic Church".Ellis Wyatt said:That is heresy. 100% false.Tom Kazansky 2012 said:All salvation comes from Christ through his Catholic Church.
— Catholic Answers (@catholiccom) February 15, 2025
…but why?Blackbeard94 said:
Praying for a speedy and full recovery
Yep. Salvation comes through Jesus Christ alone. "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father but through me."-- John 14:6.Keller6Ag91 said:But that's NOT what was meant.....and is heresy.American Hardwood said:It seems that should have been "catholic church" not "Catholic Church".Ellis Wyatt said:That is heresy. 100% false.Tom Kazansky 2012 said:All salvation comes from Christ through his Catholic Church.
— Catholic Answers (@catholiccom) February 15, 2025
Get Off My Lawn said:…but why?Blackbeard94 said:
Praying for a speedy and full recovery
If this pope knows Jesus and is heaven-bound, isn't death a victory?
The benefit of recovery would only be present if this pope is somehow better for those on Earth than his replacement will be… which is also an odd take if you hold that the papacy is ordained by God & that God imbued papal infallibility in each…
Trying to have this conversation with my deeply devout Catholic parent's is extremely tough. My parent's walk the walk. They both donate well over 40 hours a week in service of the church, and they donate well above their 10%. I gladly jump in where I can and support our local Catholic charities, but I will do everything in my power to make sure the Vatican (and the Catholic Charities of San Antonio) never get a dime of my money.Mostly Foggy Recollection said:
The power structure of the Catholic Church, much like many Western countries now, is beyond repair.
For the Catholics on here, please do not take this as me bashing on your faith. I live in a heavily Catholic community and support many of their causes and charities locally. They do plenty good. I do find the Vatican and larger hierarchy repulsive though.
Aggie95 said:why does any church need a pastor or leaders then?Kvetch said:B-1 83 said:This. The clergy is not the faith.agracer said:go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
The ignorant Catholic bashing on these threads never ceases to amaze…..
Guess it just raises the question as to why you need the clergy then.
It also fails a simple logic test: would an apostle such as Thomas (and his churches) be unsaved because they were physically located elsewhere and not able to subordinate to Peter's church? If the Catholic Church (formal) is necessary for salvation than all who aren't claimed within her lineage necessarily fall out - including martyred apostles.Keller6Ag91 said:But that's NOT what was meant.....and is heresy. From the former Catholic altar boy.American Hardwood said:It seems that should have been "catholic church" not "Catholic Church".Ellis Wyatt said:That is heresy. 100% false.Tom Kazansky 2012 said:All salvation comes from Christ through his Catholic Church.
— Catholic Answers (@catholiccom) February 15, 2025
The "Catholic Church" is found nowhere in scripture.
Salvation alone by Faith alone through Christ alone is.
His point stands.chilimuybueno said:
Matthew 16:18
chilimuybueno said:
Matthew 16:18
Very true, which is why it wouldn't be surprising if the Pope does indeed care for the poor and hate those he considers wealthy.Ellis Wyatt said:Out of the mouth comes the overflow of the heart.Quote:
One can be both.
In the Pope's case, I'd imagine God knows what's in the heart of the one who leads His church.
That said, thank God the Pope will be alright and can continue to lead the church.
No Spin Ag said:Very true, which is why it wouldn't be surprising if the Pope does indeed care for the poor and hate those he considers wealthy.Ellis Wyatt said:Out of the mouth comes the overflow of the heart.Quote:
One can be both.
In the Pope's case, I'd imagine God knows what's in the heart of the one who leads His church.
That said, thank God the Pope will be alright and can continue to lead the church.
Still, regardless of what any human thinks, only He knows the Pope's heart.
Ellis Wyatt said:
For his own health, Pope Marx needs to retire.
I was not implying anything about his faith. Just that he needs to leave the Church to its own devices. I am sure he needs to repent, though.ABATTBQ11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
For his own health, Pope Marx needs to retire.
You misspelled repent
Sayings and scriptures are very cool and all, but none of them are equal to what He knows and feels about the Pope.4 said:No Spin Ag said:Very true, which is why it wouldn't be surprising if the Pope does indeed care for the poor and hate those he considers wealthy.Ellis Wyatt said:Out of the mouth comes the overflow of the heart.Quote:
One can be both.
In the Pope's case, I'd imagine God knows what's in the heart of the one who leads His church.
That said, thank God the Pope will be alright and can continue to lead the church.
Still, regardless of what any human thinks, only He knows the Pope's heart.
Ye shall know them by their fruits...
This Pope is a communist, always has been, and one thing about communists, their true religion is their politics.
I've always wondered how the supposed leader of a Christian Church can support a political movement that expressly denies God and persecutes His followers?
No Spin Ag said:Sayings and scriptures are very cool and all, but none of them are equal to what He knows and feels about the Pope.4 said:No Spin Ag said:Very true, which is why it wouldn't be surprising if the Pope does indeed care for the poor and hate those he considers wealthy.Ellis Wyatt said:Out of the mouth comes the overflow of the heart.Quote:
One can be both.
In the Pope's case, I'd imagine God knows what's in the heart of the one who leads His church.
That said, thank God the Pope will be alright and can continue to lead the church.
Still, regardless of what any human thinks, only He knows the Pope's heart.
Ye shall know them by their fruits...
This Pope is a communist, always has been, and one thing about communists, their true religion is their politics.
I've always wondered how the supposed leader of a Christian Church can support a political movement that expressly denies God and persecutes His followers?
I'd imagine if He was displeased with the Pope, He'd have called him home to heaven by now.
Tex117 said:B-1 83 said:This. The clergy is not the faith.agracer said:go for communion, not the Pope.2000AgPhD said:
As a lapsed Catholic, I just may start going to church again if they bring in somebody that is not a hard core leftist. JP II has always been my exemplar of what a Pope should be.
The ignorant Catholic bashing on these threads never ceases to amaze…..
No kidding.
I get that Catholicism is often complex and difficult for the "southern Baptist" types to understand, but the fact they are willfully ignorant… and then purport to tell me how it works, grinds my gears.
Morons.
