Texas A&M President circumventing DEI ban

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You may not agree with his view, but that doesn't make following the law wrong. Write better laws.
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GenericAggie said:

Legal Custodian said:

Did anyone actually watch the video?

He relaying information of how the General Counsel is advising to apply the anti-DEI law the house passed. He said that student groups are still allowed (presumably under freedom of speech, my words not his, and even though I am against DEI I would agree here) and that the law states that research can still be conducted that would have been regarded as DEI. That's literally all that video is.

Those screen shots are from the Texas A&M School of Law that provides students guides/books on how DEI applies to law.


This is how CEOs hide from reality. They say, our GC said….. they abdicate their ownership of a topic.

It's why our USSC has been in the middle of so many ridiculous lawsuits. Congress has abdicated their jobs. Same same.


100% agree. This was a very poorly written law.
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Fire the general. The only money A&M will get from me is a few cents when I buy apparel.
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ProgN said:

GeorgiAg said:

TAMU is racist (edit: oops, meant DEI, same idea) because it has books and/or a collection in the library?

C'mon. That's reaching.
Watch the video in the first X post when you take a break from chasing ambulances.
Wasn't great but not terrible until the last sentence.

I am anti DEI. But having books in the library doesn't mean you support everything written there. I'm sure there is a copy of Mein Kampf there.

I support the law - nondiscrimination is one thing, DEI is bad bull.

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Legal Custodian said:

deddog said:

Legal Custodian said:

Did anyone actually watch the video?

He relaying information of how the General Counsel is advising to apply the anti-DEI law the house passed. He said that student groups are still allowed (presumably under freedom of speech, my words not his, and even though I am against DEI I would agree here) and that the law states that research can still be conducted that would have been regarded as DEI. That's literally all that video is.

Those screen shots are from the Texas A&M School of Law that provides students guides/books on how DEI applies to law.
Its the other things he says and insinuates.

"I am not pleasantly surprised by anything in this bill"
Paraphrasing...but it's pretty close...As long as you don't have DEI in the title, you can recruit exactly how you want
It's clear where his sympathies lie.
He didn't say anything about recruiting that I watched. It was in reference to research that anything in the field of DEI had to be stopped.
Start at the 2:05 mark of the video.
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To think this beta clown was a general officer, he represents perfectly the type of officer David Hackworth warned about.

He's driven by ideology and a hatred of merit based systems.

The best thing that could happen for A&M is for the governor to put pressure on the bor to fire him.
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ProgN said:



I am actually OK for Universities to keep this stuff in libraries.

They should go on the shelves right next to Mien Kompf and the works of Stalin.

The rest of this DEI stuff should get the President fired.
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I just did. Without listening to the rest of the video, it's hard to tell the intent. That's the frustrating part of whatever crusade Brian is running here. He's the mouthpiece for Empower Texans, picking and choosing details just to inflame.
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GeorgiAg said:

ProgN said:

GeorgiAg said:

TAMU is racist (edit: oops, meant DEI, same idea) because it has books and/or a collection in the library?

C'mon. That's reaching.
Watch the video in the first X post when you take a break from chasing ambulances.
Wasn't great but not terrible until the last sentence.

I am anti DEI. But having books in the library doesn't mean you support everything written there. I'm sure there is a copy of Mein Kampf there.

I support the law - nondiscrimination is one thing, DEI is bad bull.




Agreed. Sully's KKK robe is in Cushings library and I'm fine with preserving history. You can't pick and choose what happened in history.
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deddog said:

Legal Custodian said:

Did anyone actually watch the video?

He relaying information of how the General Counsel is advising to apply the anti-DEI law the house passed. He said that student groups are still allowed (presumably under freedom of speech, my words not his, and even though I am against DEI I would agree here) and that the law states that research can still be conducted that would have been regarded as DEI. That's literally all that video is.

Those screen shots are from the Texas A&M School of Law that provides students guides/books on how DEI applies to law.
Its the other things he says and insinuates.

"I am not pleasantly surprised by anything in this bill"
Paraphrasing...but it's pretty close...As long as you don't have DEI in the title, you can recruit exactly how you want
It's clear where his sympathies lie.
Exactly.

Doesn't "targeted recruiting" = DEI in a nutshell? He was saying you can still do that.
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Legal Custodian said:

deddog said:

Legal Custodian said:

Did anyone actually watch the video?

He relaying information of how the General Counsel is advising to apply the anti-DEI law the house passed. He said that student groups are still allowed (presumably under freedom of speech, my words not his, and even though I am against DEI I would agree here) and that the law states that research can still be conducted that would have been regarded as DEI. That's literally all that video is.

Those screen shots are from the Texas A&M School of Law that provides students guides/books on how DEI applies to law.
Its the other things he says and insinuates.

"I am not pleasantly surprised by anything in this bill"
Paraphrasing...but it's pretty close...As long as you don't have DEI in the title, you can recruit exactly how you want
It's clear where his sympathies lie.
He didn't say anything about recruiting that I watched. It was in reference to research that anything in the field of DEI had to be stopped.
the first video ends with him saying , "it isn't going to stop us from what we need to do, including targeted recruiting"

I can 100% guarantee that he did not mean white people.
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GeorgiAg said:

ProgN said:

GeorgiAg said:

TAMU is racist (edit: oops, meant DEI, same idea) because it has books and/or a collection in the library?

C'mon. That's reaching.
Watch the video in the first X post when you take a break from chasing ambulances.
Wasn't great but not terrible until the last sentence.

I am anti DEI. But having books in the library doesn't mean you support everything written there. I'm sure there is a copy of Mein Kampf there.

I support the law - nondiscrimination is one thing, DEI is bad bull.


Same. Wasn't great, it's very clear that Welsh is a DEI proponent and that nothing has changed. That is depressing and pathetic.

If he was not a DEI proponent, that call would have been very different.
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Aggie Therapist said:

GeorgiAg said:

ProgN said:

GeorgiAg said:

TAMU is racist (edit: oops, meant DEI, same idea) because it has books and/or a collection in the library?

C'mon. That's reaching.
Watch the video in the first X post when you take a break from chasing ambulances.
Wasn't great but not terrible until the last sentence.

I am anti DEI. But having books in the library doesn't mean you support everything written there. I'm sure there is a copy of Mein Kampf there.

I support the law - nondiscrimination is one thing, DEI is bad bull.




Agreed. Sully's KKK robe is in Cushings library and I'm fine with preserving history. You can't pick and choose what happened in history.
Link?

I think that this is an unsubstantiated rumor, and goes way against the rest of the history of Sul Ross.

I fully believe that this is a made-up lie.
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If they really have the robe, it would be accessible for people to see by making an appointment.
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Bird Poo said:

deddog said:

Legal Custodian said:

Did anyone actually watch the video?

He relaying information of how the General Counsel is advising to apply the anti-DEI law the house passed. He said that student groups are still allowed (presumably under freedom of speech, my words not his, and even though I am against DEI I would agree here) and that the law states that research can still be conducted that would have been regarded as DEI. That's literally all that video is.

Those screen shots are from the Texas A&M School of Law that provides students guides/books on how DEI applies to law.
Its the other things he says and insinuates.

"I am not pleasantly surprised by anything in this bill"
Paraphrasing...but it's pretty close...As long as you don't have DEI in the title, you can recruit exactly how you want
It's clear where his sympathies lie.
Exactly.

Doesn't "targeted recruiting" = DEI in a nutshell? He was saying you can still do that.
No, not necessarily.

Targeted recruiting is trying to appeal to a certain subset of people. It could be used to indicate targeting with DEI but it targeting people that live in or are from a certain area, attended a certain University or type of program, are part of an industry trade group, have certain certifications, etc. are all examples of it. It's a very broad term.

There isn't anything significant in this accusation...it's just Harrison stirring **** up like he likes to do.
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Charpie said:

I just did. Without listening to the rest of the video, it's hard to tell the intent. That's the frustrating part of whatever crusade Brian is running here. He's the mouthpiece for Empower Texans, picking and choosing details just to inflame.
Seems like they've been right about everything, including the Phelanites being liberals.
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These ****ing tyrants cannot make it in today's internet world. Fire this piece of **** immediately.
But I know no matter what the waitress brings
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Charpie said:

I just did. Without listening to the rest of the video, it's hard to tell the intent. That's the frustrating part of whatever crusade Brian is running here. He's the mouthpiece for Empower Texans, picking and choosing details just to inflame.
Seems like they've been right about everything, including the Phelanites being liberals.
Just because YOU say so doesn't make it so.

And please keep this thread on topic, friend.
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Which the law has a specific carveout for recruiting. Which we just went through back in January after someone tried to get Welsh in another gotcha. This is an incredibly poorly written law with so many DEI carveouts that it's hard to even portray what the spirit of the law actually was. How do they literally write in the law that recruiting is not subject to this ban and then get pissed at someone following through with that.

Do I like that he didn't put a stop to that stuff earlier? No. But this is such a poorly constructed law, that we all need to get pissed at the state legislature. I'm not saying you're not so I hope you don't take my post as criticizing you.

This is literally the first video after Counsel was able to give initial guidance and Welsh is conveying that guidance on how to not break the law. So this is what, 2ish years old as guidance has to be given before the law is implemented which makes this sometime in 2023. Which puts this in the first 3 months of Welsh taking the job and in the transitionary (is that a word) period. And that's just him as an interim, he didn't officially get the job or was considered a shoe-in until very late 2023 if memory serves.

So an interim president with no promise of permanency and is just treading water until the hiring process is started and finished is telling his people how not to break the law.
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Charpie said:

I just did. Without listening to the rest of the video, it's hard to tell the intent. That's the frustrating part of whatever crusade Brian is running here. He's the mouthpiece for Empower Texans, picking and choosing details just to inflame.



The only way anything is hard to tell is if you are listening with ears that agree with DEI.
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gabehcoud said:

You may not agree with his view, but that doesn't make following the law wrong. Write better laws.
Multiple things can be true at the same time.

It is true that the final version of the law was "watered down" somewhat, with a few "loopholes" or "carveouts" or whatever you want to call them. The blame for that resides with the state legislature and the squishy Republicans who often conspire with the Democrats to stymie conservative legislation, not the voters (the Republican majority) themselves who demanded it.

It is also simultaneously true that TAMU leadership, as evidenced by the leader's own words, intends to comply with the law to the minimalist degree, and preserve as much of the old status quo as possible (regarding the infiltration of DEI at TAMU) as they think they can get away with.

Whether you agree with this view or not, it is obvious that TAMU leadership intends to comply with the "spirit" or "intent" of the law as little as possible.

The voters of Texas (the Republican majority) have clearly stated they want DEI out of higher education, and even though TAMU leadership thinks they've found "loopholes" that will allow them to keep DEI in higher education, that doesn't mean they should. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

At the bare minimum, TAMU continuing to operate in opposition to the "spirit" or "intent" of the law is disrespectful to the sovereign will of Texas voters (the Republican majority), which, if allowed to persist, erodes democratic governance (which in the long run never works out for the better).
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Chase said:

Bird Poo said:

deddog said:

Legal Custodian said:

Did anyone actually watch the video?

He relaying information of how the General Counsel is advising to apply the anti-DEI law the house passed. He said that student groups are still allowed (presumably under freedom of speech, my words not his, and even though I am against DEI I would agree here) and that the law states that research can still be conducted that would have been regarded as DEI. That's literally all that video is.

Those screen shots are from the Texas A&M School of Law that provides students guides/books on how DEI applies to law.
Its the other things he says and insinuates.

"I am not pleasantly surprised by anything in this bill"
Paraphrasing...but it's pretty close...As long as you don't have DEI in the title, you can recruit exactly how you want
It's clear where his sympathies lie.
Exactly.

Doesn't "targeted recruiting" = DEI in a nutshell? He was saying you can still do that.
No, not necessarily.

Targeted recruiting is trying to appeal to a certain subset of people. It could be used to indicate targeting with DEI but it targeting people that live in or are from a certain area, attended a certain University or type of program, are part of an industry trade group, have certain certifications, etc. are all examples of it. It's a very broad term.

There isn't anything significant in this accusation...it's just Harrison stirring **** up like he likes to do.
I'm sorry, but this is just bull***** Everyone knows exactly what "targeted recruiting" means.
Vance in '28
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Legal Custodian said:

Which the law has a specific carveout for recruiting. Which we just went through back in January after someone tried to get Welsh in another gotcha. This is an incredibly poorly written law with so many DEI carveouts that it's hard to even portray what the spirit of the law actually was. How do they literally write in the law that recruiting is not subject to this ban and then get pissed at someone following through with that.

Do I like that he didn't put a stop to that stuff earlier? No. But this is such a poorly constructed law, that we all need to get pissed at the state legislature. I'm not saying you're not so I hope you don't take my post as criticizing you.

This is literally the first video after Counsel was able to give initial guidance and Welsh is conveying that guidance on how to not break the law. So this is what, 2ish years old as guidance has to be given before the law is implemented which makes this sometime in 2023. Which puts this in the first 3 months of Welsh taking the job and in the transitionary (is that a word) period. And that's just him as an interim, he didn't officially get the job or was considered a shoe-in until very late 2023 if memory serves.

So an interim president with no promise of permanency and is just treading water until the hiring process is started and finished is telling his people how not to break the law.

So wait…was this video from 2025 or 2023?
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the text of the law literally provides an exception for recruiting targeted or otherwise

it's a ****ty opaque law
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fullback44 said:

Why doesn't the Governor just can this guy.. I don't care who he is or what he accomplished at one point In his life , just get someone new in their that wants to follow what the people want


****ing arrest him!
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I believe so, and I have seen no evidence since that his views have changed.

Plenty of evidence, on the other hand, a small portion of it publicized by Rep. Harrison on X, suggests strongly that it hasn't.

Nevertheless, the threat of federal funds being withheld will hopefully convince TAMU leadership to embark on a much more genuine and thorough job of exorcising all vestiges of DEI and other discriminatory policies/programs at the root level, but I'm not holding my breath.

And pretty much none of this stuff was constitutional under the 14th Amendment anyway.

Thankfully, the old zeitgeist in terms every aspect of society having to worship at the altar of DEI (and diversity/multiculturalism itself) is crumbling, and not only here, but across Western Civilization. That Emperor has finally been exposed as the butt-naked fraud he always was - as nothing more than insidious cultural marxism designed to divide people, undermine society, erode national sovereignty, and enrichen/empower the left-wing globalist elites - and what remains of normal civilization has finally decided it is no longer going to cower in submission under the disgraced Emperor's reign of terror.
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If this video is from 2023, then I need more data on where he stands today…

If that is a video from 2025, dude ain't who I thought he was and he needs to be dismissed…
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not another DEIme
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
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Never seen one if these meetings but looks exactly how I expected it to and am sure it's been like this for 15+ years. Welsh needs to go, he's obviously not on board with where the governor and voters want him to go. Haven't and won't give any money to the university at large until this is fixed, we need a Trump 47 at A&M asap (45 wasn't bloodthirsty enough). ETA Sharp needs to go too. Way too long pulling the levers for that guy.
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Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

Sounds like he is naive or ignorant to the goals of DEI. Or he's at least playing that way.
Well, he's not naive or ignorant so there's your answer.
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File5 said:

Never seen one if these meetings but looks exactly how I expected it to and am sure it's been like this for 15+ years. Welsh needs to go, he's obviously not on board with where the governor and voters want him to go. Haven't and won't give any money to the university at large until this is fixed, we need a Trump 47 at A&M asap (45 wasn't bloodthirsty enough). ETA Sharp needs to go too. Way too long pulling the levers for that guy.


And how much money were you giving before?

These threats always ring so hollow.
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File5 said:

Never seen one if these meetings but looks exactly how I expected it to and am sure it's been like this for 15+ years. Welsh needs to go, he's obviously not on board with where the governor and voters want him to go. Haven't and won't give any money to the university at large until this is fixed, we need a Trump 47 at A&M asap (45 wasn't bloodthirsty enough). ETA Sharp needs to go too. Way too long pulling the levers for that guy.


If you know so much you would know that Sharp has already announced that he is stepping down. And if he was so unsatisfactory, why didn't the governor replace him?
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Another university grooming problems for the future.
All public funds should be withheld.
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Will Welsh issue another idiotic statement like he did the last time he got caught.
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I remember getting criticized when this guy was hired for stating that he's a piece of liberal, swamp scum.

And here we are.
 
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