Thank you President Trump for calling out Ukraine and Zelenskyy

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Sign it over to America. We can house some democrats Depotables over there. And move the UN headquarters to one of these locations. It will get rid of a lot of filth in America.
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GAC06 said:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3375863

There are a handful that openly say they hope Russia conquers Ukraine (like Nortex) plus apparently 118 something people that liked the OP I linked.
If you could please not lie about what I've said/want I'd appreciate it, as with Teslag. My (first) comment at the thread you linked:
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The USA shouldn't have anything to do with Ukraine, or Russia. Victoria Nuland etc. should 100 percent be in jail. The USA unfortunately played an outsized role in creating, escalating, prolonging, and broadening this horrible war, which has cost not only Ukraine/Russian lives by the hundreds of thousands, but also contributed a tremendous amount of inflation to the global economy in food/energy, leading to the currency/geopolitical crisis we now face collectively.

I'm not pulling for Putin, no (despite what some will lie about here), but I think it's equally naive to simply 'blame' Russia or cite patriotic reasons to support the Biden-Obama-Nuland-swamp position on the Ukraine war.
The above is now completely vindicated by President Trump and the news over the past 2+ years.

Now, I have said repeatedly throughout the Biden proxy war that America is safer if Russia perceives it is winning/achieving their goals in the proxy war, as escalation/nuclear etc. is less likely, but that doesn't mean I am in favor of their complete victory at all. I have also all along not wanted to be on the hook for the multi-trillion dollar 'marshall plan' for a 'Ukraine' after the war, but I'd not expect you or some other pro-Zelensky regime posters to comprehend that nuance.

I disclaim any insights into your mindset about it, I just disagree with the outcomes/rationales you have posted.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

The article itself is actually positive for the Ukrainians in terms of trying to stop corruption. Probably why the x poster only only included the screenshot.
Not really true. They are still around 104 out of 180 in corruption, and Zelensky uses 'anti-corruption' charges to go after his domestic opposition quite broadly.

It allows him to claim he is cracking down on corruption while eliminating political threats to his regime. He can't (fully) go after the biggest whales (somewhat) on his team though, such as Klitschko, though he closed a couple of his brothels.



More at the threads. These are the people who really run the Kiev regime.

The Hill (and most state-media outlets based in DC/London etc) won't put a hit-piece out about the Kiev government, so one has to read between the lines, when they try to vouch for the Kiev government after even a scintilla of criticism, as per the Biden years and the coverage of the White House.
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Old McDonald said:

what a crazy coincidence that one month into trump's presidency russia and putin are about to get everything they wanted when they invaded their sovereign neighbor!


They want the whole country and they aren't getting it.

Ukraine and Russia are both corrupt

This isn't important, we aren't obligated to fight Ukraines war for them. If something happens that warrants our involvement we will deal with it when the time comes.

Why do you think this is our problem?
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It really is like trying to pick between Iran and Iraq. We have had a sense of how that goes. Good people in both, but the governments....
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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nortex97 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

The article itself is actually positive for the Ukrainians in terms of trying to stop corruption. Probably why the x poster only only included the screenshot.
Not really true. They are still around 104 out of 180 in corruption, and Zelensky uses 'anti-corruption' charges to go after his domestic opposition quite broadly.

It allows him to claim he is cracking down on corruption while eliminating political threats to his regime. He can't (fully) go after the biggest whales (somewhat) on his team though, such as Klitschko, though he closed a couple of his brothels.



More at the threads. These are the people who really run the Kiev regime.

The Hill (and most state-media outlets based in DC/London etc) won't put a hit-piece out about the Kiev government, so one has to read between the lines, when they try to vouch for the Kiev government after even a scintilla of criticism, as per the Biden years and the coverage of the White House.



Any actual evidence in those tweets besides big scary pictures of fancy cars and yachts from someone who clearly has an incredibly large anti-Zelenskyy bias or are we just supposed to take her word for it?
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Believe what you want, of course. 4 links, two threads, "yeah well that's just like your opinion, man, any Cnn/nyt/wapo articles to support that because I don't have a search engine I can access myself?"
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Classic. Here's someone saying something on twitter
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GAC06 said:

Classic. Here's someone saying something on twitter



And when called you get the "hey I'm not doing the research on the tweets I obviously didnt vett myself. They just reinforced my own bias so I posted them" response.
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I'm on military orders and have the day off so I thought I'd do some digging.

Diana Pachenko is his source for his latest tweet blast.

https://x.com/Panchenko_X

Fun little profile. So who is she?

Well she was a Ukrainian TV reporter for NewsOne until 2021.

Who is NewsOne?

Well it was a pro-Russia Ukrainian channel that had a hard anti-Ukrainian bias. And the owner of NewsOne was none other than a holding group led by the Viktor Medvechuk, actual godfather and friend of Russian president Vladimir Putin.

But like tweets with pictures of yachts and stuff.
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Warms my heart to see the Nortex fan club still following him around after Ukraine announced their surrender.
Teslag
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Is "surrender" going to be your new troll bait?
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nortex97 said:

Believe what you want, of course. 4 links, two threads, "yeah well that's just like your opinion, man, any Cnn/nyt/wapo articles to support that because I don't have a search engine I can access myself?"


We all know you will believe literally anything you read on twitter if it's anti Ukraine. Some of us would like some actual evidence.
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Teslag said:

Is "surrender" going to be your new troll bait?


Surrender is what happened, exactly as I predicted years ago.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Is "surrender" going to be your new troll bait?


Surrender is what happened, exactly as I predicted years ago.

So the Russian flag is flying over Kiev?


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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Is "surrender" going to be your new troll bait?


Surrender is what happened, exactly as I predicted years ago.

So the Russian flag is flying over Kiev?





That was THE goal by Putin on Day one.

I'm thinking Putin won't be flying a "Mission Accomplished" flag when all is said and done. Well, at least if he's being honest, which we all know Putin is nothing if not the epitome of virtue, honesty, and all those things Christians look to in people.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Is "surrender" going to be your new troll bait?


Surrender is what happened, exactly as I predicted years ago.

So the Russian flag is flying over Kiev?





Never predicted it would. Your shtick has been making stuff up for this entire conflict.
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Teslag said:

I'm on military orders and have the day off so I thought I'd do some digging.

Diana Pachenko is his source for his latest tweet blast.

https://x.com/Panchenko_X

Fun little profile. So who is she?

Well she was a Ukrainian TV reporter for NewsOne until 2021.

Who is NewsOne?

Well it was a pro-Russia Ukrainian channel that had a hard anti-Ukrainian bias. And the owner of NewsOne was none other than a holding group led by the Viktor Medvechuk, actual godfather and friend of Russian president Vladimir Putin.

But like tweets with pictures of yachts and stuff.


Shocker
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Is "surrender" going to be your new troll bait?


Surrender is what happened, exactly as I predicted years ago.

So the Russian flag is flying over Kiev?





Never predicted it would. Your shtick has been making stuff up for this entire conflict.


But you said surrender. I just assumed you meant they actually surrendered. Carry on and good luck with your fishing trip.
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Worked extensively in both countries. They are both corrupt hellholes. At the earliest possible timing, I shut our businesses down in most of the FSRs after they had been established in the early 2000's.

Had a very close family member that was deployed 40 miles from the Uke border all of 2023 supplying and training the Ukes (and Poles). Let's just say he didn't trust the Ukes farther than he could throw them.

there are no good guys in this fiasco.

If we can get this resource agreement sorted out and a treaty signed; it will be a good outcome to a 30 year fiasco that the cause of sets directly on our doorstep.
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Is "surrender" going to be your new troll bait?


Surrender is what happened, exactly as I predicted years ago.

So the Russian flag is flying over Kiev?





Never predicted it would. Your shtick has been making stuff up for this entire conflict.


But you said surrender. I just assumed you meant they actually surrendered. Carry on and good luck with your fishing trip.


Ukraine surrendered. I predicted this years ago.
Teslag
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I already wished you good luck on your troll
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I correctly predicted that Ukraine would get smaller and Russia would get bigger years ago. Would you like a link?
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

I correctly predicted that Ukraine would get smaller and Russia would get bigger years ago. Would you like a link?


Right. When a bank robber runs out of the bank with the candy tray from the lobby he can definitely tout how his heist was still a success.
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GAC06 said:

Classic. Here's someone saying something on twitter
Do you really want to defend/claim Klitschko is innocent of sex trafficking/running ***** houses in Kiev, under the noses of the Kiev regime? I mean, really? His sin was publicly speaking out in December 2023 about this:
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In a December 2023 interview with Der Spiegel, Klitschko accused President Zelenskyy of authoritarianism due to the president's use of powers under martial law. Of the president, Klitschko said, "At some point we will no longer be any different from Russia, where everything depends on the whim of one man."
And that's from a long-time Kiev mobster.
 
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