Trump to Invoke 1798 Alien Enemies Act

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nortex97
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Exactly. Boasberg (not directed at you) is the chief judge for the DC district court. For the executive branch to ask for his (forced) recusal is…exceptional.

This is not a small/tactical move, but a strategic political one. Trump's DoJ is playing offense, not defense.
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This is the way. Turn the enemy tactics upon the enemy.
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Remember when Nancy Pelosi threatened to have Bill Barr arrested for contempt of Congress...and he just laughed at her?

This is Bondi, Bove and Blanche among others practically taunting this Judge.
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"Spinning his wheels" is the term for what Boasberg is doing.
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I would not count on Boasberg getting this.

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The hearing is over. Boasberg was incredulous that DOJ claimed he had no authority to order the plane to turn around just because it crossed out of US airspace something he said was well-established in many contexts.

He wants details about whether DOJ openly defied his order on March 15, when it ordered planes to take off and leave US airspace even after he orally ordered the government not to do that.

The remedy for an order they don't like, Boasberg said, is to appeal or seek to modify it, not to simply ignore it.

He wants a sworn declaration by noon tomorrow with details about how this played out.






Boasberg playing right into Trumps hand
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Sworn declaration on national security matter? Yeah, that's happening! LOL

Is this Judge secretly on the Trump payroll? You know Bondi is grinning ear to ear!

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DOJ should respond to Boasberg with this:

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nortex97
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Exactly. He fell for the bait, as one would expect him to based on past behavior on his behalf.

Really, this is some of the best entertainment to date from '47's team, imho.
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Man, I have had little respect for the competency of the federal bench in DC but Boasberg takes the cake when it comes to agenda-driven stupidity. Wrong hill on which to die for him.
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All this seems fascinating. Too bad I don't understand most of it.
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Trump should put a halfway house for gang members next door to the judge's house so that the judge can watch over them carefully
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In a nutshell, shortly after the constitution was enacted, congress gave the president certain war powers.

Trump has invoked this power, and this DC Judge Bozoberg is trying to micromanage the president in defending the county from invasion!

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deddog said:

All this seems fascinating. Too bad I don't understand most of it.
Pretty simple. They used lawfare against Trump. Improperly in all of those cases. Trump is now properly using the law back against them, and they are losing in the overall scheme of things.

One of the major reasons the Dems are in such disarray. They have no response...because he is back in the WH.
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Rubio has now said they know each of the passengers was confirmed to be in the country illegally. If it turns out they are not affiliated with TdA, then they are welcome to ask El Salvador to transport them back to Venezuela.

Rubio being in lockstep on this is a bigger deal than it appears. Recall, he is one of the few nominees to get overwhelming support during confirmation and he has strong political ties and credibility.

A 180 from stooge Blinken.
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rgvag11 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Kansas Kid said:

It will be interesting is to see how this board reacts when administration officials get struck down by the courts on some of their new rules, regulations, and interpretations after Chevron was thrown out by the Supreme Court (something most of us on F16 totally agreed with). It took a lot of power from the executive branch and gave it back to Congress saying they need to make clear laws regather than deferring to interpretations by the executive branch.

The President of the United State IS the Executive. He is not a pencil pusher who works in some agency somewhere. HE has the constitutional authority of the Executive.


Let's bookmark this and compare it to your feelings when there is a Democrat at the head of the Executive.



The shape the Democrats are in right now that's going to be along wait
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Ellis Wyatt said:

DOJ should respond to Boasberg with this:




All Trump has to do is start holding press conferences from the press room with visual aides talking about the illegal FISA warrants the Boasberg signed to spy on Trump's campaign. Also Boasberg oversaw the sentencing of former FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith, who pleaded guilty to doctoring a 2017 email asking to extend surveillance permissions for its wiretap of former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.

Boasberg declined to sentence Clinesmith to prison time and instead ordered him to just 12 months of probation and 400 hours of community service. Trump needs to go full blown MAGA on Boasberg and make him get in his hole and STFU




"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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This is a great breakdown that shows:
Judge Boasberg has NO AUTHORITY to even consider a TRO in this case.
Judge Boasberg has NO AUTHORITY to turn around government aircraft.
Judge Boasberg has NO AUTHORITY to substitute his judgment for the President's.
Judge Boasberg has NO AUTHORITY to issue a nationwide TRO halting the removal from the U.S. members of a foreign terrorist organization.



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aggiehawg said:

deddog said:

All this seems fascinating. Too bad I don't understand most of it.
Pretty simple. They used lawfare against Trump. Improperly in all of those cases. Trump is now properly using the law back against them, and they are losing in the overall scheme of things.

One of the major reasons the Dems are in such disarray. They have no response...because he is back in the WH.

The government's response reads like the issue is so simple that they had to cut support and logical "**** yous" out to get it to fit in the 6 pages.
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deddog said:

All this seems fascinating. Too bad I don't understand most of it.
Raises hand and says you are not alone.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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But who will check him? He's been doing this for years and no one has slapped him down.
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Levin said among other things, DOJ cited a 2003 case he worked on that said the judge's verbal order was insufficient to make the government follow his ruling.
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flown-the-coop said:

Rubio has now said they know each of the passengers was confirmed to be in the country illegally. If it turns out they are not affiliated with TdA, then they are welcome to ask El Salvador to transport them back to Venezuela.

Rubio being in lockstep on this is a bigger deal than it appears. Recall, he is one of the few nominees to get overwhelming support during confirmation and he has strong political ties and credibility.

A 180 from stooge Blinken.


It's actually incredible that Rubio is showing support for Trump. Think back during the debates. Maybe Rubio sees a chance at future POTUS opportunity?
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Im Gipper
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Monday hearing!


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Im Gipper said:




Yes, give the treatment the FBI gave any asking about the laptop, the pipe bomber, the truth of Russiagate, the dossier, on, and on. It doesn't even have to be as blunt as this -- just as "swift" and "efficient" in response or unredacted details as have seen in the past.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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RAB87 said:

This is the way. Turn the enemy tactics upon the enemy.

Give me a break. Take your authoritarian fear mongering elsewhere.
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MarkTwain said:

rgvag11 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Kansas Kid said:

It will be interesting is to see how this board reacts when administration officials get struck down by the courts on some of their new rules, regulations, and interpretations after Chevron was thrown out by the Supreme Court (something most of us on F16 totally agreed with). It took a lot of power from the executive branch and gave it back to Congress saying they need to make clear laws regather than deferring to interpretations by the executive branch.

The President of the United State IS the Executive. He is not a pencil pusher who works in some agency somewhere. HE has the constitutional authority of the Executive.


Let's bookmark this and compare it to your feelings when there is a Democrat at the head of the Executive.



The shape the Democrats are in right now that's going to be along wait
Frankly, if judges were interfering with the clear authority of a legitimate Democrat President, would resent this "courtacracy" on his behalf too. Its the sheer counter-intuitive idiocy of a single county or district holding the entire country hostage and nullifying election choices that grates.

The objectionable things even from Biden were what he didn't have the power to legislate. But none of his hires or appointments were forbidden by some judge.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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rgvag11 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Kansas Kid said:

It will be interesting is to see how this board reacts when administration officials get struck down by the courts on some of their new rules, regulations, and interpretations after Chevron was thrown out by the Supreme Court (something most of us on F16 totally agreed with). It took a lot of power from the executive branch and gave it back to Congress saying they need to make clear laws regather than deferring to interpretations by the executive branch.

The President of the United State IS the Executive. He is not a pencil pusher who works in some agency somewhere. HE has the constitutional authority of the Executive.


Let's bookmark this and compare it to your feelings when there is a Democrat at the head of the Executive.
No need to bookmark. We remember when Biden, in reality his abnormal puppet masters, lost the election because of his unconstitutional and harmful Executive actions.
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Why haven't impeachment proceedings been filed/started against Boasberg and Chuang?

Of course his wife is an infanticide activist:
https://x.com/Some*****IIKnow/status/1902792638350364808


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From the onset, Boasberg failed to recognize his court lacks the jurisdiction to hear this case. Why? The ACLU filed this case in the District of Columbia. The five Venezuelan plaintiffs represented by the ACLU are not detained in D.C., but in New York and Texas. The Supreme Court ruled in Rumsfeld v. Padilla that no court has jurisdiction over a habeas petition unless those filing the petition are detained in the district in which it was filed.

Boasberg was also quick to accept the plaintiffs' premise that the Alien Enemies Act (AEA) is a power properly exercised only during a time of war. This is patently false. Any plain reading of the law makes it clear that the AEA is an appropriate power to invoke not only during a time of war, but when the president determines there has been an invasion or predatory incursion. Even more persuasive is the Supreme Court's ruling in Ludecke v. Watkins that the AEA extends beyond wartime. And without a statutory definition of "invasion" or "predatory incursion," it is the judgment of the president alone to determine if such has occurred. This national security determination is a non-justiciable political question and the Supreme Court has repeatedly informed the intellectually curious that political questions are not reviewable by a court.
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udge Goes Too Far
Judge Boasberg refuses surrender and continues to reload with double-barrels of impermissible encroachment on executive powers. The duly elected president has informed the American people that a foreign terrorist organization is operating within the U.S. at the behest of a foreign nation and he has deployed his proper authorities under the AEA to cause their removal in the interests of national security.

The federal courts have ruled that the AEA vests "unreviewable power in the President to restrain, and to provide for the removal of, alien enemies." Trump's basis for his invocation of the AEA is a non-justiciable political question not to be answered by the wholly unqualified Boasberg or ACLU. It is answered exclusively by the president.

Boasberg has gone too far and too fast to retreat, so this skirmish will continue until the Supreme Court loads up the Article II canons on his position (see what I did there). Through his orders and admonitions, Boasberg has tactlessly given imprimatur to the "legal strategy" of disrupting the Trump presidency at all costs. Boasberg has called DOJ's response to brash authority as "woefully insufficient," but, candidly, his stewardship of this case thus far has been nothing more than woeful.

President Trump's adversaries were determined to take his freedom, his fortune, and even his life. Those efforts thankfully failed. But his enemies remain undeterred.
This is just lawfare by other means.
More at the link.
nortex97
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Boasberg hearing is today (on AEA/El Salvador flights etc). Will see if the law/constitution happens to matter in his courtroom this week, or if it's all about his ego as usual.
 
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