Pyramids might not be you've been taught. What now?

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Yep. The voice of Art and his bumper music is nostalgic.
Haven't lived until you've driven through the Arizona desert in the middle of the night on a long road trip to Cali from College Station with your homie, possibly a little blazed, while listening to Coast to Coast. Core memory.
Back before the internet, I used to work late into the night/early morning at my office doing tax returns. I sort of had a routine that would last a tax season or so. From just music, to radio stations from different (English speaking) parts of the world, to old time radio programs, etc. For one, possibly two, tax seasons, I would listen to Coast to Coast as I worked. Although I believe none of that crap, I was fascinated by those who were true believers. Whether it was shadow people or some paranormal tripe, it was insane.
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aggiehawg said:

I read this back in 1968. I was nine.


I read it, too. It was intriguing to a kid, but I realized that it was nonsense sometime but soon concluded that it was nonsense.
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one safe place said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Yep. The voice of Art and his bumper music is nostalgic.
Haven't lived until you've driven through the Arizona desert in the middle of the night on a long road trip to Cali from College Station with your homie, possibly a little blazed, while listening to Coast to Coast. Core memory.
Back before the internet, I used to work late into the night/early morning at my office doing tax returns. I sort of had a routine that would last a tax season or so. From just music, to radio stations from different (English speaking) parts of the world, to old time radio programs, etc. For one, possibly two, tax seasons, I would listen to Coast to Coast as I worked. Although I believe none of that crap, I was fascinated by those who were true believers. Whether it was shadow people or some paranormal tripe, it was insane.
I used to listen to a lot of radio and did listen to it on occasion. I don't know that I could ever stomach listening to an entire show.
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titan said:

SeMgCo87 said:

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schmellba99 said:

Who is the guy that posits the theory that the Sphinx is actually around 15,000 years old based on erosion lines? Maybe he is onto something.


Graham Hancock

He also believes a 20,000 year old advanced civilization built Goblekli Tepe because the people living there when it was thought to have been built by archaeologists 6-8 k years ago weren't advanced enough to build it but he doesn't state how this super advanced society from 20,000 years ago left absolutely zero evidence behind that they ever existed like tools, homes, skeletons, literature etc.

He basically states in all of his theories that either a comet or a flood wiped out all evidence other than the monoliths left today that we attribute to much later periods.
Yeah, Gobekli Tepe was originally thought to be 6-8k BC...not just years ago...making it 8-10k years ago. But last I heard, newer dating studies have pushed it back to 10,000 BC...or 12,000 years ago.

Most archeologists don't like to tamper with existing date timelines because everyone wants it to fit in nice neat little story boxes...even though archeologists can't dispute the carbon dating, they screech like liberals getting USAID $$ pulled from their slush funds...G-T craps all over their nice to eat, compartmentalized stories...because, ng well, you know, they didn't have advanced degrees, or knew calculus...besides the Hebrew calendar started 5,800 years ago, so there...
Well one should always be cautious before revising or upsetting an accepted timeline without extremely close attention paid to its original assumptions and founding arguments. (Often those have been forgotten over time, but are there to check if go back) A good example of what you are talking about is there is a new competing timeline for the history and dates of some of the dynasties of the Pharaohs. It pegs its timeline among other things upon a rather securely dated stellar event (a rare type of total eclipse at sunset I think would have to check) in a letting about the burning of a palace to Pharaoh Akhenaten. If its right, that reign doesn't fall in the time frame usually assumed. But -- this remains to be more thoroughly tested --- but it is interesting.

History and archeological history have internal debates like that. Another is the date of Herod the Great's death -- was it 4 B.C. or 1 B.C. (later case seems a bit stronger now) To set aside an accepted timeline takes some time and usually more than a few separate proofs showing it correct. Also, you need to disprove or show why flawed the original anchor points.
As a service to our church, I volunteered to research and then present to the congregation why the date of Easter bounces around between March 22 and April 25...never before and never after.

And we must assume two things...that Jesus was crucified when he was 33 (33-1/2??), and King Herod was alive when Jesus was born...if those are true, then Jesus was born between 5 and 4 BC, and crucified in 30 AD...and because the sequence of events (Last Supper, arrest, Pilate sentencing, cross-carrying, crucifixion, burial and Resurrection) exactly matches Passover timing for Sedel (Hebrew day starts at 6 PM), and 33 AD requires careful calculation of the date for the second Tuesday of next week, well...

And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...

By the way, even biblical scholars argue to this day, whether crucifixion was in 30 or 33 AD...vehemenently and with scorn shed upon each other.

My thoughts are that he was born in the 5-4 BC range, and Herod could have died either in 4 or 1 BC...wouldn't matter.
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SeMgCo87 said:

titan said:

SeMgCo87 said:

bonfarr said:

schmellba99 said:

Who is the guy that posits the theory that the Sphinx is actually around 15,000 years old based on erosion lines? Maybe he is onto something.


Graham Hancock

He also believes a 20,000 year old advanced civilization built Goblekli Tepe because the people living there when it was thought to have been built by archaeologists 6-8 k years ago weren't advanced enough to build it but he doesn't state how this super advanced society from 20,000 years ago left absolutely zero evidence behind that they ever existed like tools, homes, skeletons, literature etc.

He basically states in all of his theories that either a comet or a flood wiped out all evidence other than the monoliths left today that we attribute to much later periods.
Yeah, Gobekli Tepe was originally thought to be 6-8k BC...not just years ago...making it 8-10k years ago. But last I heard, newer dating studies have pushed it back to 10,000 BC...or 12,000 years ago.

Most archeologists don't like to tamper with existing date timelines because everyone wants it to fit in nice neat little story boxes...even though archeologists can't dispute the carbon dating, they screech like liberals getting USAID $$ pulled from their slush funds...G-T craps all over their nice to eat, compartmentalized stories...because, ng well, you know, they didn't have advanced degrees, or knew calculus...besides the Hebrew calendar started 5,800 years ago, so there...
Well one should always be cautious before revising or upsetting an accepted timeline without extremely close attention paid to its original assumptions and founding arguments. (Often those have been forgotten over time, but are there to check if go back) A good example of what you are talking about is there is a new competing timeline for the history and dates of some of the dynasties of the Pharaohs. It pegs its timeline among other things upon a rather securely dated stellar event (a rare type of total eclipse at sunset I think would have to check) in a letting about the burning of a palace to Pharaoh Akhenaten. If its right, that reign doesn't fall in the time frame usually assumed. But -- this remains to be more thoroughly tested --- but it is interesting.

History and archeological history have internal debates like that. Another is the date of Herod the Great's death -- was it 4 B.C. or 1 B.C. (later case seems a bit stronger now) To set aside an accepted timeline takes some time and usually more than a few separate proofs showing it correct. Also, you need to disprove or show why flawed the original anchor points.
As a service to our church, I volunteered to research and then present to the congregation why the date of Easter bounces around between March 22 and April 25...never before and never after.

And we must assume two things...that Jesus was crucified when he was 33 (33-1/2??), and King Herod was alive when Jesus was born...if those are true, then Jesus was born between 5 and 4 BC, and crucified in 30 AD...and because the sequence of events (Last Supper, arrest, Pilate sentencing, cross-carrying, crucifixion, burial and Resurrection) exactly matches Passover timing for Sedel (Hebrew day starts at 6 PM), and 33 AD requires careful calculation of the date for the second Tuesday of next week, well...

And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...

By the way, even biblical scholars argue to this day, whether crucifixion was in 30 or 33 AD...vehemenently and with scorn shed upon each other.

My thoughts are that he was born in the 5-4 BC range, and Herod could have died either in 4 or 1 BC...wouldn't matter.
If you would like the Easter algorithm, I have it in a book somewhere.
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eric76 said:

SeMgCo87 said:

titan said:

SeMgCo87 said:

bonfarr said:

schmellba99 said:

Who is the guy that posits the theory that the Sphinx is actually around 15,000 years old based on erosion lines? Maybe he is onto something.


Graham Hancock

He also believes a 20,000 year old advanced civilization built Goblekli Tepe because the people living there when it was thought to have been built by archaeologists 6-8 k years ago weren't advanced enough to build it but he doesn't state how this super advanced society from 20,000 years ago left absolutely zero evidence behind that they ever existed like tools, homes, skeletons, literature etc.

He basically states in all of his theories that either a comet or a flood wiped out all evidence other than the monoliths left today that we attribute to much later periods.
Yeah, Gobekli Tepe was originally thought to be 6-8k BC...not just years ago...making it 8-10k years ago. But last I heard, newer dating studies have pushed it back to 10,000 BC...or 12,000 years ago.

Most archeologists don't like to tamper with existing date timelines because everyone wants it to fit in nice neat little story boxes...even though archeologists can't dispute the carbon dating, they screech like liberals getting USAID $$ pulled from their slush funds...G-T craps all over their nice to eat, compartmentalized stories...because, ng well, you know, they didn't have advanced degrees, or knew calculus...besides the Hebrew calendar started 5,800 years ago, so there...
Well one should always be cautious before revising or upsetting an accepted timeline without extremely close attention paid to its original assumptions and founding arguments. (Often those have been forgotten over time, but are there to check if go back) A good example of what you are talking about is there is a new competing timeline for the history and dates of some of the dynasties of the Pharaohs. It pegs its timeline among other things upon a rather securely dated stellar event (a rare type of total eclipse at sunset I think would have to check) in a letting about the burning of a palace to Pharaoh Akhenaten. If its right, that reign doesn't fall in the time frame usually assumed. But -- this remains to be more thoroughly tested --- but it is interesting.

History and archeological history have internal debates like that. Another is the date of Herod the Great's death -- was it 4 B.C. or 1 B.C. (later case seems a bit stronger now) To set aside an accepted timeline takes some time and usually more than a few separate proofs showing it correct. Also, you need to disprove or show why flawed the original anchor points.
As a service to our church, I volunteered to research and then present to the congregation why the date of Easter bounces around between March 22 and April 25...never before and never after.

And we must assume two things...that Jesus was crucified when he was 33 (33-1/2??), and King Herod was alive when Jesus was born...if those are true, then Jesus was born between 5 and 4 BC, and crucified in 30 AD...and because the sequence of events (Last Supper, arrest, Pilate sentencing, cross-carrying, crucifixion, burial and Resurrection) exactly matches Passover timing for Sedel (Hebrew day starts at 6 PM), and 33 AD requires careful calculation of the date for the second Tuesday of next week, well...

And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...

By the way, even biblical scholars argue to this day, whether crucifixion was in 30 or 33 AD...vehemenently and with scorn shed upon each other.

My thoughts are that he was born in the 5-4 BC range, and Herod could have died either in 4 or 1 BC...wouldn't matter.
If you would like the Easter algorithm, I have it in a book somewhere.
There's actually several of them, and I downloaded them...at least the ones I found...

The hilarious part was reviewing the one for the Hebrew Calendar...Jews used a "Lunisolar" calendar, lunar cycle sums to 353-354 days...12 days off a full Solar year. They used two different Metonic cycles...one starting from 2, the other from 3. And based on what year (count) in the full Metonic cycle (19 years, then everything repeats), they would use one or the other...so sometimes on the 2 scale, they may actually be 4 days ahead...but over several Metonic cycles I guess it would even out. And lest we forget, His Royal Emperorship Julius Caesar intro'd the Julian Calendar in 44 BC, based on the Egyptian Solar Calendar, with 365.25 days..

And then, as Julian dates began to shatter all kinds traditional dates - Spring Equinox (planting), Passover, Fall Equinox (harvest) - Pope Gregory authorized a more correct calendar count (Gregorian Calendar, what we use today)...based on 365.2422 days per year, leap day every 4 years, and no leap day every 400 years. This explains why 2000 was not a leap year.

The October, 1583 calendar was hilarious...1,2,3,4,15,16,17...

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The one I have is in Volume 1, Fundamental Algorithms of Knuth's Art of Programming.

According to the text, it is from Neapolitan astronomer Aloysius Lilius and the German Jesuit mathematician Christopher Clavius. It claims that it is used by most Western churches to calculate the of Easter Sunday for any year after 1582.
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eric76 said:

The one I have is in Volume 1, Fundamental Algorithms of Knuth's Art of Programming.

According to the text, it is from Neapolitan astronomer Aloysius Lilius and the German Jesuit mathematician Christopher Clavius. It claims that it is used by most Western churches to calculate the of Easter Sunday for any year after 1582.
Beg your pardon...there are several Computer-based algorithms that I downloaded, not the old codecs.
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Minor correction. 2000 was a leap year.

We skip a leap year every 100 years, except when the century year is also divisible by 400.

https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/science-leap-year
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SeMgCo87 said:

eric76 said:

The one I have is in Volume 1, Fundamental Algorithms of Knuth's Art of Programming.

According to the text, it is from Neapolitan astronomer Aloysius Lilius and the German Jesuit mathematician Christopher Clavius. It claims that it is used by most Western churches to calculate the of Easter Sunday for any year after 1582.
Beg your pardon...there are several Computer-based algorithms that I downloaded, not the old codecs.
That was the algorithm I used in software that ruled out certain days for possible court actions. For example, it wouldn't schedule anything for Good Friday.
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Jack Ruby said:

There's a Pizza Hut about 100 yards away from the foot of the Sphinx. Kinda shocking to see in person.

Really makes you think.


Tour guide would not let me go inside, but I caught this image. Indeed, "shocking" to see. Thinking he gets kickbacks from kebab guy we visited after, or he was trying to keep me away from the source.

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Brings to mind one of my favorites:

In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Naught but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Krombopulos Michael said:





Ever get that feeling that "they" have been misleading you. Looks like you might have been right all along.

Sure, it's just a Twitter post and could be a hoax. But if proven 100% true, we are in for an interesting period in human history.

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Can we get a quote on a shipping a a couple of vibrator and log trucks to Giza along with a seismic crew to lay down some geophones in an L shaped grid?
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Guppy91 said:

Jack Ruby said:

There's a Pizza Hut about 100 yards away from the foot of the Sphinx. Kinda shocking to see in person.

Really makes you think.


Tour guide would not let me go inside, but I caught this image. Indeed, "shocking" to see. Thinking he gets kickbacks from kebab guy we visited after, or he was trying to keep me away from the source.




Open up a Giza Hut next door

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Probably there for Chinese tourists.

Chinese love them some KFC.
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You have to be so stupid to believe that they actually found these structures under the pyramids lmao
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Banks Monkey said:

You have to be so stupid to believe that they actually found these structures under the pyramids lmao
The part that I think needs to have the most scrutiny is that the researchers used "proprietary" technology to help with these scans. I know whatever they wrote about was "peer reviewed," but has the same method been used on known structures and verified?
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Nanomachines son said:



I have always thought something was weird about things like this. Pre-Flood civilization and tech were much higher than we think.
I am fascinated and borderline disturbed by some of this stuff, but unless alien, it just doesn't seem possible that civilizations millennia ago had tech superior to ours. You'd think we'd find something aside from primitive drawings and sculptures.

It's easier for me to believe these were crazy pagan/religious tyrants who used monumental slave labor and somewhat advanced mathematics and precision over centuries to create monuments pleasing tot heir "gods".

It's hard for us to comprehend projects or structures taking hundreds of years to complete, but maybe they thought about things differently and were driven in ways we are not?


Genesis has the explanation for this. Tower of Babel. If a group of people with common knowledge were suddenly spread around the world, this is exactly what you would expect.
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redline248 said:

Banks Monkey said:

You have to be so stupid to believe that they actually found these structures under the pyramids lmao
The part that I think needs to have the most scrutiny is that the researchers used "proprietary" technology to help with these scans. I know whatever they wrote about was "peer reviewed," but has the same method been used on known structures and verified?
What kind of "peer review" can you expect when the technology is "proprietary"? They can pretty much claim whatever they want and nobody can dispute it because they don't have the means to verify the claims.
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agent-maroon said:

redline248 said:

Banks Monkey said:

You have to be so stupid to believe that they actually found these structures under the pyramids lmao
The part that I think needs to have the most scrutiny is that the researchers used "proprietary" technology to help with these scans. I know whatever they wrote about was "peer reviewed," but has the same method been used on known structures and verified?
What kind of "peer review" can you expect when the technology is "proprietary"? They can pretty much claim whatever they want and nobody can dispute it because they don't have the means to verify the claims.
Yes, excellent point. Healthy skepticism is warranted
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As a service to our church, I volunteered to research and then present to the congregation why the date of Easter bounces around between March 22 and April 25...never before and never after.

And we must assume two things...that Jesus was crucified when he was 33 (33-1/2??), and King Herod was alive when Jesus was born...if those are true,

Where does the `must' come from -- isn't the phrase more "about 33" ? That appears to have been understood as a range that would not exclude 1 BC or 1 AD*. Though for purposes of discussion will stipulate half year either side of a 33rd birthday and Herod alive.

* 1 BC or 1 CE for any who prefer that newer academic reference `common era'.


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then Jesus was born between 5 and 4 BC, and crucified in 30 AD...and because the sequence of events (Last Supper, arrest, Pilate sentencing, cross-carrying, crucifixion, burial and Resurrection) exactly matches Passover timing for Sedel (Hebrew day starts at 6 PM), and 33 AD requires careful calculation of the date for the second Tuesday of next week, well...


I have seen different arguments about just what calculation or not is involved, but 33 better fits Roman evidence and clues. But 30 AD is definitely in the running.


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And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...


That way of treating the count was not really how thought of in a Year Zero or revolution way. "Anno Domini" once era began, BC simply any before. But even in the first few centuries the placement of his birth was understood could fall in what we think of as BC years or even some as something like 1 AD. If your friend argued with you, its because perhaps didn't realize that Jesus indeed could have been born in a "B.C." in fact, whether its 5/4 B.C. or 1.B.C.,its still a BC.


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By the way, even biblical scholars argue to this day, whether crucifixion was in 30 or 33 AD...vehemenently and with scorn shed upon each other.

Yes they do, though the scorn is kind of idiotic because the simple truth is that there are enough variables about which date and what timing of the Upper Room feast were that the most honest thing is to remain agnostic between 30 and 33. However, there has been some slightly improvement -- certain textual discoveries and archeological ones have at least allowed elimination of some of the earlier and later year candidates (you used to find as early as 27 A.D. and as latte as 36 AD) so that's something, ha.


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My thoughts are that he was born in the 5-4 BC range, and Herod could have died either in 4 or 1 BC...wouldn't matter.


Well if Herod died first half of 1 B.C., apparently it does operate against 5-5 BC except in the very loosest sense but maybe not. It actually has more importance in relation to the Herodian dynasty dates.

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The first thing is, why do you need a radar from space to do this? Second, the sloped roofs over the burial chambers I've read/watched about for years just as a mechanism that they developed to angle the mass/weight of the stones over it to not crush them. Not 'groundbreaking' at all. We've had pictures of a lot of this stuff for well over a hundred years now.

Third, if you've got this remarkable data why not show/share it instead of a middle school equivalent visualization? Personally, I hate to use the word 'debunked' as a long time tin foil hat owner myself, but it seems like fake news to me.
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eric76 said:

schmellba99 said:

eric76 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

I am fascinated and borderline disturbed by some of this stuff, but unless alien, it just doesn't seem possible that civilizations millennia ago had tech superior to ours.


If alien, there is no reason to think that they would look remotely like humans. They would have gone through an entire different evolutionary process.

Any time someone talks about aliens resembling humans in an way, you know that they don't know what they are talking about.

Think about it. There are so many life forms on Earth that are sufficiently genetically distant that those life form are very different from us and from other distant relations. For example, nobody would ever expect a molusc to resemble a human.

Yet, people think that aliens with whom we have no genetic relations at all somehow magically resemble us. It's crazy.

It might make for decent science fiction, but it is completely crazy to expect it in real life.
There is absolutely no way to say something like this with any degree of accuracy, going under the assumption that aliens do exist.
There is absolutely no legitimate way to argue that aliens would resemble humans in one or more ways. If you saw any real alien, if they exist, you would not be able to confuse them with humans or anything similar.
I didn't say that either. All i said was throwing out a statement like you did is completely impossible to state with any degree of certainty - because not a single one of us really knows one way or another.
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The odds of an alien resembling a human may be near zero, but it certainly helps cut costs in sci fi movies. Wax ears, maybe some forehead ridges

My favorite sci fi book is Calculating God, by Robert Sawyer. No fake ears allowed
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I guess this goes in this thread......


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Hey...so.. um said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Nanomachines son said:



I have always thought something was weird about things like this. Pre-Flood civilization and tech were much higher than we think.
I am fascinated and borderline disturbed by some of this stuff, but unless alien, it just doesn't seem possible that civilizations millennia ago had tech superior to ours. You'd think we'd find something aside from primitive drawings and sculptures.

It's easier for me to believe these were crazy pagan/religious tyrants who used monumental slave labor and somewhat advanced mathematics and precision over centuries to create monuments pleasing tot heir "gods".

It's hard for us to comprehend projects or structures taking hundreds of years to complete, but maybe they thought about things differently and were driven in ways we are not?


Genesis has the explanation for this. Tower of Babel. If a group of people with common knowledge were suddenly spread around the world, this is exactly what you would expect.


This likely also explains why nearly every single civilization has some sort of ancient myth of giants and an ancient myth of gods who all were white (not implying anything here just that it's strange all of them have this myth).
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SeMgCo87 said:




And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...


In 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII reformed the Julian calendar, primarily to correct the leap year calculations and ensure the calendar remained aligned with the seasons. The Gregorian calendar's year 1 AD is based on the monk Dionysius Exiguus's calculation in AD 525 (Julian calendar), which was off, but not bad given the non integer solar days per year ~365.25, thus the introduction of leap years). Based on the more precise calculations of the Gregorian calendar the date of Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Almost every Catholic is taught this in parochial school, or Sunday school (except your friend).
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Nanomachines son said:

Hey...so.. um said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Nanomachines son said:



I have always thought something was weird about things like this. Pre-Flood civilization and tech were much higher than we think.
I am fascinated and borderline disturbed by some of this stuff, but unless alien, it just doesn't seem possible that civilizations millennia ago had tech superior to ours. You'd think we'd find something aside from primitive drawings and sculptures.

It's easier for me to believe these were crazy pagan/religious tyrants who used monumental slave labor and somewhat advanced mathematics and precision over centuries to create monuments pleasing tot heir "gods".

It's hard for us to comprehend projects or structures taking hundreds of years to complete, but maybe they thought about things differently and were driven in ways we are not?


Genesis has the explanation for this. Tower of Babel. If a group of people with common knowledge were suddenly spread around the world, this is exactly what you would expect.


This likely also explains why nearly every single civilization has some sort of ancient myth of giants and an ancient myth of gods who all were white (not implying anything here just that it's strange all of them have this myth).
Every civilization has a flood story with one man and family saving a bunch of animals.
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doubledog said:

SeMgCo87 said:




And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...


In 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII reformed the Julian calendar, primarily to correct the leap year calculations and ensure the calendar remained aligned with the seasons. The Gregorian calendar's year 1 AD is based on the monk Dionysius Exiguus's calculation in AD 525 (Julian calendar), which was off, but not bad given the non integer solar days per year ~365.25, thus the introduction of leap years). Based on the more precise calculations of the Gregorian calendar the date of Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Almost every Catholic is taught this in parochial school, or Sunday school (except your friend).
At the risk of introducing more precision, there is no calendar that compensates for precession of the equinoxes...and every 12-13,000 years, the equinoxes flip...+/-183 days, 91 days off in 6,000 years, and ~30 days in ~2,000 years. Leap year may account for some of that (20 minutes a year or so), but I have found no research that ties leap year to precession.

Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Yep...as well that in the 30 AD Hebrew calendar, Nisan 15 Seder (Passover meal) perfectly matches with Last Supper-Trial/Crucifixion-Resurrection sequence.

And the Biblical text is based on events and not according to a calendar, but King/Pharoah rule...and I am not aware of any Pharoahs who were named in the Old Testament. Incidentally, my friend is from South America, so I cannot confirm the content of his Catholic education.
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One of the Author's was all in on UFOs before switching his attention to the pyramids.

And I don't want anyone to waste all their time watching this extremely well done review but here it is. In short the guys presenting are out there and make wild claims then don't show much if anything to back up the claims.



Also the German scientist lady has good video shooting this all down.
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SeMgCo87 said:

doubledog said:

SeMgCo87 said:




And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...


In 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII reformed the Julian calendar, primarily to correct the leap year calculations and ensure the calendar remained aligned with the seasons. The Gregorian calendar's year 1 AD is based on the monk Dionysius Exiguus's calculation in AD 525 (Julian calendar), which was off, but not bad given the non integer solar days per year ~365.25, thus the introduction of leap years). Based on the more precise calculations of the Gregorian calendar the date of Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Almost every Catholic is taught this in parochial school, or Sunday school (except your friend).
At the risk of introducing more precision, there is no calendar that compensates for precession of the equinoxes...and every 12-13,000 years, the equinoxes flip...+/-183 days, 91 days off in 6,000 years, and ~30 days in ~2,000 years. Leap year may account for some of that (20 minutes a year or so), but I have found no research that ties leap year to precession.

Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Yep...as well that in the 30 AD Hebrew calendar, Nisan 15 Seder (Passover meal) perfectly matches with Last Supper-Trial/Crucifixion-Resurrection sequence.

And the Biblical text is based on events and not according to a calendar, but King/Pharoah rule...and I am not aware of any Pharoahs who were named in the Old Testament. Incidentally, my friend is from South America, so I cannot confirm the content of his Catholic education.
List of them here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible
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Ran across this video today about the pyramid story and definitely hit on a lot of the same thoughts/concerns I had regarding the original story...



I did like the additional information regarding the authors of the claim.
 
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