techno-ag said:

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SeMgCo87 said:

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doubledog said:

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SeMgCo87 said:

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And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...

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In 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII reformed the Julian calendar, primarily to correct the leap year calculations and ensure the calendar remained aligned with the seasons. The Gregorian calendar's year 1 AD is based on the monk Dionysius Exiguus's calculation in AD 525 (Julian calendar), which was off, but not bad given the non integer solar days per year ~365.25, thus the introduction of leap years). Based on the more precise calculations of the Gregorian calendar the date of Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Almost every Catholic is taught this in parochial school, or Sunday school (except your friend).

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At the risk of introducing more precision, there is no calendar that compensates for precession of the equinoxes...and every 12-13,000 years, the equinoxes flip...+/-183 days, 91 days off in 6,000 years, and ~30 days in ~2,000 years. Leap year may account for some of that (20 minutes a year or so), but I have found no research that ties leap year to precession.

Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Yep...as well that in the 30 AD Hebrew calendar, Nisan 15 Seder (Passover meal) perfectly matches with Last Supper-Trial/Crucifixion-Resurrection sequence.

And the Biblical text is based on events and not according to a calendar, but King/Pharoah rule...and I am not aware of any Pharoahs who were named in the Old Testament. Incidentally, my friend is from South America, so I cannot confirm the content of his Catholic education.

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List of them here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible

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Isn't that special...biblical historians apply a list of Pharoah names, based on when they reigned, using BC dates that were not yet known... and in Genesis, the Pharoah is referred to only as..."Pharoah".

I repeat...the Bible text refers to "Pharoah", not Thutmose, Ramses or whomever...

It is easy to apply Pharoah reigns based on dates determined by Biblical scholars throughout history, but much more difficult to find a specific Pharoah name in the Old Testament, if not impossible.

SeMgCo87 said:

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techno-ag said:

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SeMgCo87 said:

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doubledog said:

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SeMgCo87 said:

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And I was taught that the year count started at zero when he was born...when I told the above to a Roman Catholic, he splattered me with brain matter. Could not rationalize Jesus being born BC...Before Christ...

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In 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII reformed the Julian calendar, primarily to correct the leap year calculations and ensure the calendar remained aligned with the seasons. The Gregorian calendar's year 1 AD is based on the monk Dionysius Exiguus's calculation in AD 525 (Julian calendar), which was off, but not bad given the non integer solar days per year ~365.25, thus the introduction of leap years). Based on the more precise calculations of the Gregorian calendar the date of Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Almost every Catholic is taught this in parochial school, or Sunday school (except your friend).

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At the risk of introducing more precision, there is no calendar that compensates for precession of the equinoxes...and every 12-13,000 years, the equinoxes flip...+/-183 days, 91 days off in 6,000 years, and ~30 days in ~2,000 years. Leap year may account for some of that (20 minutes a year or so), but I have found no research that ties leap year to precession.

Jesus' birth is 4-5BC. Yep...as well that in the 30 AD Hebrew calendar, Nisan 15 Seder (Passover meal) perfectly matches with Last Supper-Trial/Crucifixion-Resurrection sequence.

And the Biblical text is based on events and not according to a calendar, but King/Pharoah rule...and I am not aware of any Pharoahs who were named in the Old Testament. Incidentally, my friend is from South America, so I cannot confirm the content of his Catholic education.

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List of them here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible

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Isn't that special...biblical historians apply a list of Pharoah names, based on when they reigned, using BC dates that were not yet known... and in Genesis, the Pharoah is referred to only as..."Pharoah".

I repeat...the Bible text refers to "Pharoah", not Thutmose, Ramses or whomever...

It is easy to apply Pharoah reigns based on dates determined by Biblical scholars throughout history, but much more difficult to find a specific Pharoah name in the Old Testament, if not impossible.

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Shoshenq I (see above): Generally identified with the pharaoh Shishak, who is described as raiding Jerusalem and the Temple of Solomon in 1 Kings 11:40 and 2 Chronicles 12:2 sqq.[53]

Necho II (610595 BC): Necho is mentioned in several books of the Bible (2 Kings, 2 Chronicles, and Jeremiah).[56][57] Jeremiah 44:30 also mentions his successor Apries (589570 BC).

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Looks like the Pharoah's name in Jeremiah is Hophra.

This is what the Lord says: 'I will turn Pharaoh Hophra, king of Egypt, over to his enemies who want to kill him, just as I turned King Zedekiah of Judah over to King Nebuchadnezzar[a] of Babylon.'"
(NLT)

This is following the plot of 2001 though.

Digging up a buried anomaly and all.

Maybe someone goes down there and messes with it and it comes alive and blasts a signal into space toward Jupiter

If these folks tryna project blue beam our asses they gotta do better than the plot of 2001.

I call them out right here and now.