flown-the-coop said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Would you rather nothing and no name, including anyone on the left, come out then?

I'd imagine that you never demanded for the Epstein Files to be released, especially before Trump got in office this year by your stance.

For those that did and them released and all of a sudden they didn't, what changed? Don't they want justice anymore?

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yesterday people were up in arms on how much money would be wasted on adding Trump's name to the Kennedy Center.

Today we want endless time and funds spent sorting through 100,000s of documents to redact names of witnesses and victims because we just KNOW Trump and Bondi are covering something up.

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That didn't answer my question.

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No and I think the only thing I have ever said that could be taken that way is I support full unredacted release or none at all.

I believe redacted release is not going to put any of this to rest for any one no matter what your preconceived opinions are on those involved in the whole affair (to include this phase of document release) will not change without full unredacted release.

And I am confident I will be proven correct on that.

You asked "what changed" as well regarding the release. Trump, Bondi and others have covered this. I found this thread that linked an article with the following:
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3548558

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President Trump's Justice Department and FBI have concluded they have no evidence that convicted sex offender and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed powerful figures, kept a "client list" or was murdered, according to a memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios.

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So far, that determination has held up.

In the interim we have had Dem manipulated emails, pictures and birthday

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Here's to seeing if that determination holds true throughout the total release.

As for the dems, they're acting like children. No surprise, but they're idiocy doesn't detract from the goal of getting the full truth out.

Ervin Burrell said:

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ETFan said:

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It really is that simple. I'm sorry you feel so compelled to find a defense for every single attempt by this admin to stop the release.

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How are they stopping the release by releasing hundred of thousands of documents with no indication they will not release more?

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Did you miss them adjourning early for Xmas yesterday, suspiciously one day before the files were due to be released? What a coincidence! Christ you're insufferable.

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What do you think Congress would do today to change anything? Just lay it out.

Or throw a toddler tantrum because you don't understand the act, how congress works and many many other things.

BTW - You take time to use the Lord's name in vain but not regarding the reason for the season. And I am insufferable? Check yoself.

No Spin Ag said:

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Here's to seeing if that determination holds true throughout the total release.

As for the dems, they're acting like children. No surprise, but they're idiocy doesn't detract from the goal of getting the full truth out.

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I agree with Wiles take and others that Bondi (and Trump) have fumbled this topic. sAnd of course it gives the Dems all the fodder they need to manipulate this issue for their political advantage.

If Bondi doesn't quickly get some ducks lined up on this it likely does become the end of her stint as AG. The binders, the misspeak about an actual list on her desk, the timing of announcements.

I still have it on MS Now and their coverage is not as bombastic as I would have expected after Blanche said what he did this morning.

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This has truly become Anon for leftists. There is no there there. If there was, all would have come out under Biden before the election. But Dems keep releasing old photos and stuff knowing their lapdogs, waiting to be told what to think, will swallow it whole.

People are so easily manipulated.

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Again, I know I've already said this in this thread before:

Qanon wasn't real and this is. If you can't figure that out, I'm very sorry.

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Reality was actually much worse and troubling than the stuff QAnon was spinning. Incoming president was spied on and a complete hoax was carefully orchestrated and utilized as a coup attempt. When that didn't work, the weaponized federal agencies literally engaged in flagrant election interference in 2020, attempting to subvert the will of the people to ensure that their preferred candidate (tarded Joe Biden) was elected.

Please attempt to refute any of this. Reality was much more troubling than most of the QAnon stuff. I WISH it had only been democrats with boots on the ground trying to cheat in certain cities. No, it was the MF FBI and intel community.

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You're arguing with someone who previously said this law had no teeth if I remember correctly, don't work too hard to convince these partisan hacks of anything. It will not work, they actually believe in politicians and their "policies" lol

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It actually doesn't have any teeth. Maybe Massie and buddy Ro need to go to legislating 101. Instead of driving clicks and donations, they could have coordinated with the DOJ about how much time would be needed to fully comply and put that into the law. They could have added teeth. They chose not to.

But that makes me wrong? Hot take right there.

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I have no problem with you buddy, I'm sure you're a great guy and wish you and so many others would use your talents and energy on things that actually matter instead of the defense or condemnation of Trump/Biden/Obama/Democrats/Massie/Trump's Enemies.

The government, under any leadership, is not fighting for you or those like you, and hasn't been for decades. It's time for us normal folks to take the world back, we're not going to do it if we're stuck arguing with each other, that's exactly what (they) want.

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This is TexAgs. I fancy myself one of the oligarchs that Trump coordinates with to cover for the deep state, Israel, Egyptian AF jets, and sworn to UFO secrecy.

I stand up for Trump because the TDS runs so rampant around here. Ags are the ultimate pearl clutchers, its at the root of BAS.

Sometimes you have to decide just to take a stand against evil. Dems / libs / TDSers all seek a weakness in America that I do not seek. America first, best, great and golden.

Trump currently represents our best chance for that and over the next few years so I will support and defend him and his administration.

I will not cover up or lie for him as libs do for their ilk. But I will point out poor takes, ******ed assumptions, misinformation, chicken littling and bizarre conspiracy theories that are not based in reality.

If information comes out of these files indicating high levels of coverup and coordination with foreign intelligence then I can reconsider. But as I have said before, I am not seeing that at this point.

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This has truly become Anon for leftists. There is no there there. If there was, all would have come out under Biden before the election. But Dems keep releasing old photos and stuff knowing their lapdogs, waiting to be told what to think, will swallow it whole.

People are so easily manipulated.

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Again, I know I've already said this in this thread before:

Qanon wasn't real and this is. If you can't figure that out, I'm very sorry.

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Reality was actually much worse and troubling than the stuff QAnon was spinning. Incoming president was spied on and a complete hoax was carefully orchestrated and utilized as a coup attempt. When that didn't work, the weaponized federal agencies literally engaged in flagrant election interference in 2020, attempting to subvert the will of the people to ensure that their preferred candidate (tarded Joe Biden) was elected.

Please attempt to refute any of this. Reality was much more troubling than most of the QAnon stuff. I WISH it had only been democrats with boots on the ground trying to cheat in certain cities. No, it was the MF FBI and intel community.

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Per usual, your drivel has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Explain your God Emperor doing everything in his power to cover up child rape.

So we're missing a deadline...what's the reason given? How am I supposed to treat this level of stonewalling as anything other than willful obstruction or coverup?

BREAKING: At least 20 Epstein clients are expected to be named in the release of the full Epstein files, according to Thomas Massie.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) December 19, 2025

Ridiculous framing. The DOJ is releasing a massive tranche of new documents that the Biden and Obama administrations refused to release. The story here: the Trump administration is providing levels of transparency that prior administrations never even contemplated.

The initial… https://t.co/1SE9rZtcbW

— DOJSPOX47 (@DOJSpox47) December 19, 2025

The law had a carveout to protect victims, which is informing this entire process. The DOJ is releasing hundreds of thousands of documents today — the same ones that the Biden and Obama administrations failed to disclose. Where was the outrage then? https://t.co/YutPcXJa20

— DOJSPOX47 (@DOJSpox47) December 19, 2025

DOJ public affairs statements on X

well, I'm open to Veep level incompetence, but the time to give the "its too many documents to handle given limited resources" excuse was 3 weeks ago, not today after a blown deadline. This doesn't land as bureaucratic slowness, after everything else this lands as deliberate.

PaulsBunions said:

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Ridiculous framing. The DOJ is releasing a massive tranche of new documents that the Biden and Obama administrations refused to release. The story here: the Trump administration is providing levels of transparency that prior administrations never even contemplated.

The initial… https://t.co/1SE9rZtcbW

— DOJSPOX47 (@DOJSpox47) December 19, 2025

The law had a carveout to protect victims, which is informing this entire process. The DOJ is releasing hundreds of thousands of documents today — the same ones that the Biden and Obama administrations failed to disclose. Where was the outrage then? https://t.co/YutPcXJa20

— DOJSPOX47 (@DOJSpox47) December 19, 2025

DOJ public affairs statements on X

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We're an unserious nation. Jfc

Define victim.

Ervin Burrell said:

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techno-ag said:

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This has truly become Anon for leftists. There is no there there. If there was, all would have come out under Biden before the election. But Dems keep releasing old photos and stuff knowing their lapdogs, waiting to be told what to think, will swallow it whole.

People are so easily manipulated.

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Again, I know I've already said this in this thread before:

Qanon wasn't real and this is. If you can't figure that out, I'm very sorry.

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Reality was actually much worse and troubling than the stuff QAnon was spinning. Incoming president was spied on and a complete hoax was carefully orchestrated and utilized as a coup attempt. When that didn't work, the weaponized federal agencies literally engaged in flagrant election interference in 2020, attempting to subvert the will of the people to ensure that their preferred candidate (tarded Joe Biden) was elected.

Please attempt to refute any of this. Reality was much more troubling than most of the QAnon stuff. I WISH it had only been democrats with boots on the ground trying to cheat in certain cities. No, it was the MF FBI and intel community.

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Per usual, your drivel has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Explain your God Emperor doing everything in his power to cover up child rape.

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He is making fun of QAnon craziness, but I was only highlighting that the actual reality is WAY WORSE than the stuff QAnon was chasing. Founders would have for sure stacked bodieds if weaponized federal agencies were openly trying to rig elections for one candidate over the other. That is a TRUE "omgggg threeeeeeat to democracyyyyyy!!!!!"

Every real discussion thread has little tangents and side discussions. You two NEVER have a rebuttal though...bc you can't debate hard facts.

Somewhat tangentially speaking, what's up with Les Wexner? Is he just peacefully hanging out in Ohio at the moment as this Epstein stuff continues to heat up?

Strange.

Spencer Kuvin, attorney for Epstein survivors:

"The fact that the government is not releasing all information only reaffirms the need for FOIA litigation. There is absolutely no reason that the Dept. of Justice has not reviewed this material for release in the last 18 years"

DOJ is complying with a specific act of Congress and this attorney thinks FOIA is a plausible route? Lord there are more exclusions to FOIA than Massie's tattered bill.

The attorneys have zero credibility and are not serving their clients well with this nonsense.

Saying things like "we know what names should be in there and if they are not we will claim cover-up" followed by a refusal to share those names. Same **** Massie is spewing.

They are playing to their fans though. They just are not serving their clients nor constituents.

The Trump DOJ is playing cover up, but whatever you say man.

Here's the website:

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/

I can confirm the website is up and working as designed. Enjoy!

flown-the-coop said:

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I can confirm the website is up and working as designed. Enjoy!

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Unpossible! This was supposed to get im for sure this time!

Weird. I also searched Epstein, Clinton and Gates and got the same result you did. I mean, one would think Epstein as a search term would bring up something.

The search is broken.

Quite the shock from this very competent admin.

ETFan said:

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The search is broken.

Quite the shock from this very competent admin.

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Could be worse. Could be Obamacare.

Queso1 said:

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Weird. I also searched Epstein, Clinton and Gates and got the same result you did. I mean, one would think Epstein as a search term would bring up something.

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It's not a bug, it's a feature!

Here is Bill Clinton in a hot tub next to someone whose identity has been redacted.

Per the Epstein Files Transparency Act, DOJ was specifically instructed only to redact the faces of victims and/or minors.

Time for the media to start asking real questions. pic.twitter.com/II2QwScVAf

— Abigail Jackson 🇺🇸 (@abigailmarone) December 19, 2025

Who?mikejones! said:

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Here is Bill Clinton in a hot tub next to someone whose identity has been redacted.

Per the Epstein Files Transparency Act, DOJ was specifically instructed only to redact the faces of victims and/or minors.

Time for the media to start asking real questions. pic.twitter.com/II2QwScVAf

— Abigail Jackson 🇺🇸 (@abigailmarone) December 19, 2025

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Let the games begin.

Who?mikejones! said:

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Here is Bill Clinton in a hot tub next to someone whose identity has been redacted.

Per the Epstein Files Transparency Act, DOJ was specifically instructed only to redact the faces of victims and/or minors.

Time for the media to start asking real questions. pic.twitter.com/II2QwScVAf

— Abigail Jackson 🇺🇸 (@abigailmarone) December 19, 2025

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Keep them coming. Bank records, offshore accounts, tax records, and phone records blow the doors off of this thing. Watch the market on Monday.

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flown-the-coop said:

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I can confirm the website is up and working as designed. Enjoy!

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Unpossible! This was supposed to get im for sure this time!

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Because it's entirely redacted. Clearly he has nothing to hide.

Here are the reasons the Epstein files can be redacted under the Epstein Files Transparency Act:[1][5][6]

- Personally identifiable information from a victim's personal or medical files, where disclosure would be a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.[1][5][6]
- Material that depicts or contains child sexual abuse material (CSAM) or child pornography, which remains illegal to distribute.[1][5][6]
- Information whose disclosure would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, and then only in a narrowly tailored and temporary way.[1][5][6]
- Images or records that depict death, physical abuse, or injury of any person.[1][5][6]
- Information that is properly classified under an executive order for national defense or foreign policy reasons (true nationalsecurity classified information).[1][5][6]

Epstein had a CD-R titled "Clinton Far East 5/02 [REDACTED] photos" pic.twitter.com/OEiKUpz849

— Jason Paladino (@jason_paladino) December 19, 2025

The Epstein grand jury documents just released are entirely redacted https://t.co/Mpqgi96fGV pic.twitter.com/MMJ0MUr76S

— Politics & Poll Tracker 📡 (@PollTracker2024) December 19, 2025

Is Bill even appearing at all in public these days?

According to the U.S. Justice Department, the same reduction method for victims was also applied to any “politically exposed individuals and government officials” that were mentioned or included in the Epstein Files, as reported by Fox News.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) December 19, 2025

This would be breaking the law