DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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Yukon Cornelius said:

Yep. It's the same dismissive behavior the left used when the podesta emails dropped. I've come to the conclusion 95% of the people don't care about right or wrong or what's best for the country. They just want either team red or blue to win. It's all a giant sports game.

Its cute you think Massie and Ro's stunt has done anything but muddy already murky waters.

I understand Trump campaigned on it. I have said time and time again that Trump and Bondi have bumbled this. You are simply too lazy to do your research and instead want to switch to ad homs to satisfy your righteous inquest, which isn't righteous as you give two squats about justice, right, wrong, etc.

My attacks on Massie and Ro are deserved and valid. Has nothing to do with Trump. Think deeper, think for yourself.

In the meantime, quit anointing Saint Massie as the white knight when you understand little about his true motivations.
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Marcinko, seal team 6 founder involved too.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01250170.pdf
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EFR said:

Watching the maga talking points change has been fascinating. We have now gone from "there isn't anything" to "I don't believe my own eyes so that email is fake and doesn't count". Ironically I think they will be quoting Hillary soon and saying "what difference does it make at this this point".



180 degrees.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Marcinko, seal team 6 founder involved too.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01250170.pdf

So this is a summary from a call to the Epstein hotline by a Kenneth Darrell Turner who claims to be a deputy with the Mexican authorities, working with a female intelligence agent from S Africa with information that Marcinko is being held in a Mexican prison but is saying he has videos of Epstein (and other US citizens) engaged in sex acts with children.

This was referred to Legat (legal attache) Mexico City so there should be a follow-up. I would be interested in seeing that.

Marcinko is quite the interesting character. If (bif IF) he actually worked with Epstein, then the intelligence angle becomes more plausible. But Marcinko is not without his critics and questionable past. Also, no indication from quick searching that he was in a Mexican prison.
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Queso1 said:

EFR said:

Watching the maga talking points change has been fascinating. We have now gone from "there isn't anything" to "I don't believe my own eyes so that email is fake and doesn't count". Ironically I think they will be quoting Hillary soon and saying "what difference does it make at this this point".



180 degrees.


Have you kids offered ANY evidence that the emails are legit? Any?

Are you saying you believe Robin Leach choked children to death and that girls and their aborted fetuses where buried in Trump golf courses around the world?

Its not a talking point to question the fantastical fantasies of discredited mental patients.
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Yeah. It's not about talking points. I think some of us want actual evidence before we say the whole world is run by sex offenders. Do we know if the emails are from legit sources and actually telling the truth? I felt the same way about the Brett Kavanaugh stuff. I don't just outright believe accusations. Show me real proof of something or this may as well be fantasy.
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The emails are real. Anyone could call in to give the FBI a "tip" of made up BS. Easy distinction
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So a lot of this stuff seems fake. Could that be by design? Include a bunch of fake, outlandish stuff that can be easily disproven, to basically discredit, or call into question, everything else? If I were one of the guilty parties, I would appreciate that very much. The Jay Z and Mamdami stuff is pretty over the top. As someone else said, Jay Z was small time in 96, for one.
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Of course. Similar to the UAP stuff.

All I know is what Bondi said in early 2025. I figure I can take the AG at her word.

As far as rap goes, it's not like a garage band makes it big after playing small shows for years. The whole persona, background, apparent wealth, etc are all manufactured well before they become big.
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Yea I'm just having a hard time believing any of this latest stuff with Robin Leach, a golf course Trump didn't actually own in the timeline, and the Jay-Z and Pusha T stories because both were one level above no names in the timeline. But rubes who do zero research and have little common sense eat this stuff up.
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JobSecurity said:

The emails are real. Anyone could call in to give the FBI a "tip" of made up BS. Easy distinction


Yep, it's pretty hard to believe the stuff about Bush Sr. Raping boys and cutting their feet in satanic rituals. But who knows.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Yea I'm just having a hard time believing any of this latest stuff with Robin Leach, a golf course Trump didn't actually own in the timeline, and the Jay-Z and Pusha T stories because both were one level above no names in the timeline. But rubes who do zero research and have little common sense eat this stuff up.


Yep, I'm sure Jay Z was known in rap circles in NYC in 96, but no one I knew really knew who he was until 98-99 or so when he started to go mainstream…and back then he was not living the aristocratic life. No way these dudes would have let 96 Jay Z hang around lol.
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If this doesn't wake people up then they're a lost cause. Good little goyim
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This is the problem you get with "release everything!" You get the legitimate stuff along with the Bush Sr. cut off people's feet and it didn't leave a scar. That of course is totally believable. And if you don't release the crazy **** as well, you get the "wHaT is tHe gOVerMeNT HiDiNG??2??" nonsense that comes with that.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

hph6203 said:

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The basketball world might be a little uptight.
David Stern in the files is a different individual. Former JP Morgan Banker.


Nope

"Nuh uh, in 2014 David Stern emailed about going to the Milken Conference for free and then 25 months later NBA Commissioner David Stern spoke at the Milken Conference! See it's him!"

Question #1: Why is he asking about getting into an annual conference for free more than two years before he spoke at the conference and that becomes evidence it's the NBA commissioner?

Question #2: Why is he asking how to get into a conference for free that he's speaking at? You think they asked him to speak, probably paid him to speak, and then they turned around and said "if you're gonna stay you're going to have to buy a ticket."



Call me crazy, but I don't think NBA commissioner David Stern was chumming it up with Steve Bannon in London in 2018.
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Peter Attia's one month old son's heart stopped beating on June 11th, 2017. His home is in San Diego. His wife calls to tell him and he stays in New York only making phone calls to check in. Son is in the hospital for 4 days for monitoring. What was he doing while his son was in the hospital? Hanging with Epstein.



Jill (who he has to clarify is his wife's name to Epstein) kicks him out 8 months later (wonder why?!). A month after that he decides his girlfriend (who Epstein does know by name) is actually bad for him.

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It is amazing the damage these files have had on so many well known people's lives. Peter Attia is or was a superstar for healthy living movement, dude is charging the wealthy millions so they can live longer.

Just another grifter in Epstein's orbit, to hell with all of them.

ETA: Seeing all the Q anon type folks suddenly not care is the wildest part. The "there's a global cabal of pedophiles" people don't seem to care so much anymore because of the political leanings of the pedos. It's wild.
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WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP, this recent release of so-called "Epstein files" has generated intense public interest, but it is important to separate authentic documents from credible evidence. While some of the emails and records may be technically authentic in the sense that they exist, authenticity of a document does not equate to truth of its contents. There is no reliable way to verify whether the claims made within these materials are factual, accurate, or deliberately fabricated. Many of the allegations lack corroboration, lack independent witnesses, and lack any supporting physical or documentary evidence. In multiple instances, timelines and factual details do not align with known reality. For example, claims involving President Trump and bodies allegedly buried on a golf course fail basic scrutiny, as the property in question was not even owned by him at the time alleged. It's a known fact Trump is a germaphobe, a non drinker, and anti drug hard liner. Outlandish claims that name him and all his kids involved in bizarre doings with kids, and absolute nonsense and should be treated as such.

Other outrageous accusations, such as former President George H. W. Bush whom I'm no fan of for various other reasons, being involved in torture of children, are not only unproven but wholly implausible, unsupported by evidence, and contradict all known facts. Much of the material consists of hearsay, anonymous claims, and salacious accusations against prominent individuals with no means of verification. Particularly concerning are emails Epstein allegedly sent to himself making claims about others. These statements amount to nothing more than conjecture from a man who was himself convicted of serious crimes and had every motive to deflect blame or elevate his own importance. Here's what you need to hold everything contained in this dump, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. None of that standard is met here.

And furthermore, given the years of investigations, seizures of evidence, and intense political and lawfare efforts directed at President Trump including impeachment proceedings, prosecutions, and exhaustive intelligence scrutiny it is implausible that any truly credible or provable evidence would have remained unused if it existed. The fact that no substantiated evidence has emerged after such prolonged and aggressive scrutiny speaks volumes. These files may contain real documents, but real documents filled with unverified assertions, inconsistent timelines, and sensational allegations do not constitute proof. Without corroboration, independent evidence, or verifiable facts, these claims remain unsubstantiated and should be treated with extreme skepticism rather than accepted as truth.

And all the TDS idiots that are trying to find some sort of moral high ground are laughable, especially the liberal defenders of the chaos we're witnessing right now. Save your buls*** for the rest of the peanut gallery, anyine with common since, sees right through you. You same 'tards laughed at the pizzagate believers but now are all in on this crap.
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Well said and agree. But paragraphing helps me from getting too crosseyed.

I hope there are a few investigator types who will look into the files and legitimately connect dots like they did with the Twitter files and aggiehawg has done on the 2020 election.

The amount of noise with Epstein continues to amaze. And not that I think nothing bad happened, but the sensational stories are frankly bizarre.
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Nice!

BigRob was going to be along to comment on the formatting regardless.
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GMaster0 said:



ETA: Seeing all the Q anon type folks suddenly not care is the wildest part. The "there's a global cabal of pedophiles" people don't seem to care so much anymore because of the political leanings of the pedos. It's wild.


Yup. Remember when Trump was a "white hat" that was gonna rid the world of pedos? Utterly laughable, but welcome to tribal politics. Brainless sheep defending "their side" at all costs, even though the people they're defending are completel sh/tbags who couldn't care less about them. F'ing fascinating and entertaining to watch people like ftc in action though, I must admit.
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Ervin Burrell said:

GMaster0 said:



ETA: Seeing all the Q anon type folks suddenly not care is the wildest part. The "there's a global cabal of pedophiles" people don't seem to care so much anymore because of the political leanings of the pedos. It's wild.


Yup. Remember when Trump was a "white hat" that was gonna rid the world of pedos? Utterly laughable, but welcome to tribal politics. Brainless sheep defending "their side" at all costs, even though the people they're defending are completel sh/tbags who couldn't care less about them. F'ing fascinating and entertaining to watch people like ftc in action though, I must admit.

You think Epstein (dead) and his merry band of pedo friends are the only ones in the world?

Closing the border is 1000x more effective against child sex trafficking and pedos than anything that can or will be done about Epstein.

But you only care about Epstein. Why?
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flown-the-coop said:

Ervin Burrell said:

GMaster0 said:



ETA: Seeing all the Q anon type folks suddenly not care is the wildest part. The "there's a global cabal of pedophiles" people don't seem to care so much anymore because of the political leanings of the pedos. It's wild.


Yup. Remember when Trump was a "white hat" that was gonna rid the world of pedos? Utterly laughable, but welcome to tribal politics. Brainless sheep defending "their side" at all costs, even though the people they're defending are completel sh/tbags who couldn't care less about them. F'ing fascinating and entertaining to watch people like ftc in action though, I must admit.

You think Epstein (dead) and his merry band of pedo friends are the only ones in the world?

Closing the border is 1000x more effective against child sex trafficking and pedos than anything that can or will be done about Epstein.

But you only care about Epstein. Why?


LOL. The guy who has been posting on this thread every five minutes for months is accusing me of "only caring about Epstein." Keep goaltending for your boy, who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire…it's high entertainment.
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You didn't answer the question.
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Probably because some of the richest a-holes in the world are getting embarrassed. The whole thing is very schadenfreudian.
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How To Deal With Sexual Abuse Claims


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flown-the-coop said:

Ervin Burrell said:

GMaster0 said:



ETA: Seeing all the Q anon type folks suddenly not care is the wildest part. The "there's a global cabal of pedophiles" people don't seem to care so much anymore because of the political leanings of the pedos. It's wild.


Yup. Remember when Trump was a "white hat" that was gonna rid the world of pedos? Utterly laughable, but welcome to tribal politics. Brainless sheep defending "their side" at all costs, even though the people they're defending are completel sh/tbags who couldn't care less about them. F'ing fascinating and entertaining to watch people like ftc in action though, I must admit.

You think Epstein (dead) and his merry band of pedo friends are the only ones in the world?

Closing the border is 1000x more effective against child sex trafficking and pedos than anything that can or will be done about Epstein.

But you only care about Epstein. Why?


I know calling people pedos is the cool thing to do but has there been any proof of pedophiles?

These guys were doing bad guy, low life, ****ty, illegal things but pedophiles means they were fooling around with kids
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Ervin Burrell said:

GMaster0 said:



ETA: Seeing all the Q anon type folks suddenly not care is the wildest part. The "there's a global cabal of pedophiles" people don't seem to care so much anymore because of the political leanings of the pedos. It's wild.


Yup. Remember when Trump was a "white hat" that was gonna rid the world of pedos? Utterly laughable, but welcome to tribal politics. Brainless sheep defending "their side" at all costs, even though the people they're defending are completel sh/tbags who couldn't care less about them. F'ing fascinating and entertaining to watch people like ftc in action though, I must admit.


I'll take a stab at it. I have been on the globalist pedo ring stuff for 10+ years now. I read and heard things about HW that were disturbing many many years ago. Pizza gate has always been real. I think a lot of have lost our voice from shouting from the rooftops that this is not left vs right or anything like that. It's a bunch of ultra wealthy powerful sickos that run the world.

Now as it relates to Trump, I still haven't seen anything linking him to being a pedo. If that has changed then hopefully someone can link it.
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People will call you a pedo or pedo protector if you try and point out such lawful distinctions.

I have not seen anything particular about under 14 activities outside of the wild accusations.

Would it surprise me? Not it would not. But it seems as though they stayed about that line.a

To be clear, there would still be crimes and those involved should be held accountable if they have not been. But people like to add in the pedo commentary to drive emotions and ultimately "clicks" or maybe even stars on this site.
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Epstein and Trudeau's dad broing down.

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soleta27 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Agree. I don't see anything supporting the weird red box in front of them.

Or did you notice something else?


Oh, just the odd dark brushed out square above her head



Really?


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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP, this recent release of so-called "Epstein files" has generated intense public interest, but it is important to separate authentic documents from credible evidence. While some of the emails and records may be technically authentic in the sense that they exist, authenticity of a document does not equate to truth of its contents. There is no reliable way to verify whether the claims made within these materials are factual, accurate, or deliberately fabricated. Many of the allegations lack corroboration, lack independent witnesses, and lack any supporting physical or documentary evidence. In multiple instances, timelines and factual details do not align with known reality. For example, claims involving President Trump and bodies allegedly buried on a golf course fail basic scrutiny, as the property in question was not even owned by him at the time alleged. It's a known fact Trump is a germaphobe, a non drinker, and anti drug hard liner. Outlandish claims that name him and all his kids involved in bizarre doings with kids, and absolute nonsense and should be treated as such.

Other outrageous accusations, such as former President George H. W. Bush whom I'm no fan of for various other reasons, being involved in torture of children, are not only unproven but wholly implausible, unsupported by evidence, and contradict all known facts. Much of the material consists of hearsay, anonymous claims, and salacious accusations against prominent individuals with no means of verification. Particularly concerning are emails Epstein allegedly sent to himself making claims about others. These statements amount to nothing more than conjecture from a man who was himself convicted of serious crimes and had every motive to deflect blame or elevate his own importance. Here's what you need to hold everything contained in this dump, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. None of that standard is met here.

And furthermore, given the years of investigations, seizures of evidence, and intense political and lawfare efforts directed at President Trump including impeachment proceedings, prosecutions, and exhaustive intelligence scrutiny it is implausible that any truly credible or provable evidence would have remained unused if it existed. The fact that no substantiated evidence has emerged after such prolonged and aggressive scrutiny speaks volumes. These files may contain real documents, but real documents filled with unverified assertions, inconsistent timelines, and sensational allegations do not constitute proof. Without corroboration, independent evidence, or verifiable facts, these claims remain unsubstantiated and should be treated with extreme skepticism rather than accepted as truth.

And all the TDS idiots that are trying to find some sort of moral high ground are laughable, especially the liberal defenders of the chaos we're witnessing right now. Save your buls*** for the rest of the peanut gallery, anyine with common since, sees right through you. You same 'tards laughed at the pizzagate believers but now are all in on this crap.
Release all the files!

(Never mind the files are full on nothing burgers. This makes us feel self righteous.)

Release all the files!
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