DeschutesAg said:
BQ78 said:
This is so suspect, Democrats wanted to get Trump so bad that they would not have sat on this during the Biden Administration, if it had legs, they never would have had to trump up misdemeanors into felonies to try to get him.
I agree, but let's not forget the underlying ground has shifted a lot in the past 19 years.
Let's presume there were multiple reasons why the Bush Admin covered this up initially in 2006-07 and why later Administrations from both parties subsequently sat on this scandal and went along with the coverup.
The most obvious reason: both parties have members and big donors who are compromised.
Another likely reason: the Israeli intel agency - CIA - Saudi - Qatar - UAE connections to Epstein. If intel agencies were using Epstein to get info, that would be a huge scandal with enormous public backlash and repercussions. Both R & D Administrations would not want that scandalous connection exposed, not during their time in the WH, and not even now.
Consider this observation: Have GWB, Obama, Trump, Biden, or any of their past CIA and natsec chiefs and FBI Directors and DOJ AG's publicly called for the Epstein files, with only victim names redacted, to be released? Afaik, the answer is "no".
GWB, Obama, and the Trump 1.0 regime had real Middle East wars and real shadow wars going on vs. Al Queda, ISIS, Iran, the Taliban etc. in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc.
But now, some of the underlying ground that existed before 2025 has shifted. Public sentiment and public opinion about the our nation's relationship with Netanyahu and Israel has been gradually going through a huge sea change the past 2 years, and that transition is still picking up more momentum every day inside the voter base of both parties.
A majority of voters in the bases of both parties want this scandal exposed.
Yep, and to your last point, I definitely agree that the majority of people on both sides who are half-plugged into politics want this blown up...while the majority of politicians on both sides seemingly don't.
Stinks to high heavens, but I do suspect it is more complicated than "both sides have big donors who could be compromised" (although I do believe that to be true). I think it's even deeper than that, involving one or a combination of intel groups you mention.
The conspiracy theorist in me does wonder if Trump wants this to all go away because he knows he has been green lit by groups that could actually kill him this time if he actually issues everything unredacted and tries to start sicking LE on influential people. Distant possibility that has crossed my mind, although unlikely. I do believe CIA and Mossad (and other groups) could easily kill any world leader on the face of the globe, if they so desired. Some low IQ white trash punk was able to get a clean shot on Trump's head from close range, a mere head turn away from pink mist and potential nationwide conflict.