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Whats the alternative?

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Deport all Democrats?

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I do appreciate the ignorance in this thread.

Civil warrants have been issued. They are not effective outside of Texas borders.

Abbott has filed a quo warranto suit in the Texas Supreme Court against Gene Wu. Court gave Mr. Wu until Friday to file his answer.

Speaker gave a deadline of Friday for the run aways to return.

What else do you think needs to be done today?

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But Big Bad MAGA Warrior John Cornyn has the FBI on the case!

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Bad Brisket is everywhere all of a sudden. Super MAGA!! Border warrior!! Tough talkin' Texas badass!! Democrats' worst nightmare (right after his regular champagne brunch at the club with the very same democrats)!!

Stop trying to ride Abbott and Paxton's coattails on the delinquent democrat issue, nobody is buying your BS anymore.

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I do appreciate the ignorance in this thread.

Civil warrants have been issued. They are not effective outside of Texas borders.

Abbott has filed a quo warranto suit in the Texas Supreme Court against Gene Wu. Court gave Mr. Wu until Friday to file his answer.

Speaker gave a deadline of Friday for the run aways to return.

What else do you think needs to be done today?

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But Big Bad MAGA Warrior John Cornyn has the FBI on the case!

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Bad Brisket is everywhere all of a sudden. Super MAGA!! Border warrior!! Tough talkin' Texas badass!! Democrats' worst nightmare (right after his regular champagne brunch at the club with the very same democrats)!!

Stop trying to ride Abbott and Paxton's coattails on the delinquent democrat issue, nobody is buying your BS anymore.

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We can only hope you are correct nobody is buying Cornholio BS!

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Hard for me to believe there isn't a way to have a computer model spit out population balanced districts that are:

- compact and contiguous
- prioritize county lines, school district borders, and major thoroughfares.

No considerations of where current seat holders reside, race or other demographic breakdowns, etc.

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It could be done, but I'm not sure everyone would consider the results to be fair. Take Texas, for example. The software could end up splitting Democrat blocks in the cities so that they can't compete anywhere else, or, on the other hand, it could end up packing Republicans into 90/10 districts in rural areas, and creating somewhat competitive districts in the cities where Democrats could edge out Republicans and get more seats than their vote share would suggest.

I'm in favor of redrawing the Texas map this year, given the corrupt Census results that were skewed for the Democrats, but, if Article 2 of the VRA is struck down by the Supreme Court in the upcoming term, and Congress were to pass an Act limiting redistricting to once per decade (and bar courts from drawing the lines), then I'd be in favor of doing that and leaving state legislatures to their own devices.

In states where you see population change, getting too cute and trying to maximize your seats at the start of the cycle can end up burning you at the end of the cycle. I forget whether it was the end of the 00's or the 10's where Texas's legislative districts, drawn at the start of the decade to elect maximum numbers of Republicans, ended up with a bunch of districts that leaned slightly D due to population changes over that 10 year period.

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To that issue, Branca has a great stream analyzing them. Looks likely they will eliminate majority minority districts, in my view.

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What properties does the model contain?

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1. I'm not talking about AI

2. Just the properties I said - compact, contiguous, with borders that follow existing political lines and major thoroughfares, and balanced populations.

Yes, some, districts could lean heavily one way or the other. Many more would be competitive. Overall, it should approximate the general breakdown of votes from the recent elections. I suppose there could be a check that had to fall within a certain tolerance or be re-run. But if it was programmed to achieve that, that starts us down the road we are already on.

Yes, sometimes it would cut against one party and sometimes it would go against. But if the net effect is more competitive districts, you would get less crazy extremeist democrats. They would have to be more centrist to win and keep their seats. As it is now, we have "secure" seats and they have 'secure" seats and theirs get filled with wackos.

Plus - we would certainly gain seats in places like CA, IL, MD, and MA.

It would be an interesting simulation to see.

why would Scotus put this case off for another year? Seems pretty cut and dry.

Did delaying it a year guarantee the Ds an extra LA seat for 2026?

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We get it. You are a leftist. Enjoy goaltending for them.

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Figures. You can't help but disagree and argue to own a lib. I say the Dems are bad for doing something and that's goal tending?

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Did I hear anything from you about the left returning their seats taken by gerrymandering? Nope.

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What are you even on about? Gerrymandering is bad. End of my opinion.

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🚨 BREAKING: Texas AG Ken Paxton just launched a major investigation into a GEORGE SOROS-funded PAC for "unlawfully funding runaway Democrats," who are now blocking a vote on the new Congressional map.

Ken Paxton is going ALL-OUT.

"If Texas lawmakers are bowing to the Soros… pic.twitter.com/qd3nP9gPQ9

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 7, 2025

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Thought it was Beto?

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is there really any difference

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One is a billionaire that buys his influence thru media matters and thru politicians on the take

One is a grifter that takes money any way he can get it. Has about $0.20 in his bank account.

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Well, in this case, the billionaire gave money to the former staff members of the grifter, and the grifter is pandering and grifting.

So, they aren't really very different here. They are both kindof acting as one, together.

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We get it. You are a leftist. Enjoy goaltending for them.

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Figures. You can't help but disagree and argue to own a lib. I say the Dems are bad for doing something and that's goal tending?

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Did I hear anything from you about the left returning their seats taken by gerrymandering? Nope.

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What are you even on about? Gerrymandering is bad. End of my opinion.

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I somewhat agree...


HowEVER...why did you only start to care about it being "bad" now?

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Hard for me to believe there isn't a way to have a computer model spit out population balanced districts that are:

- compact and contiguous
- prioritize county lines, school district borders, and major thoroughfares.

No considerations of where current seat holders reside, race or other demographic breakdowns, etc.

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It could be done, but I'm not sure everyone would consider the results to be fair. Take Texas, for example. The software could end up splitting Democrat blocks in the cities so that they can't compete anywhere else, or, on the other hand, it could end up packing Republicans into 90/10 districts in rural areas, and creating somewhat competitive districts in the cities where Democrats could edge out Republicans and get more seats than their vote share would suggest.

I'm in favor of redrawing the Texas map this year, given the corrupt Census results that were skewed for the Democrats, but, if Article 2 of the VRA is struck down by the Supreme Court in the upcoming term, and Congress were to pass an Act limiting redistricting to once per decade (and bar courts from drawing the lines), then I'd be in favor of doing that and leaving state legislatures to their own devices.

In states where you see population change, getting too cute and trying to maximize your seats at the start of the cycle can end up burning you at the end of the cycle. I forget whether it was the end of the 00's or the 10's where Texas's legislative districts, drawn at the start of the decade to elect maximum numbers of Republicans, ended up with a bunch of districts that leaned slightly D due to population changes over that 10 year period.

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To that issue, Branca has a great stream analyzing them. Looks likely they will eliminate majority minority districts, in my view.

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The loss of majority minority districts for house seats would likely be the number 1 most impactful consequence of the 45th presidency.

1) If this really does happen, it will have ramifications on the HOR for many decades.
2) It will significantly move the law to become even more color-blind. It would be a very important ruling that laws that benefit one race, even if that race is a minority, are not going to pass muster. It will set an important precedent about race relations in this country that could have broad implications across many areas of law.

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We get it. You are a leftist. Enjoy goaltending for them.

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Figures. You can't help but disagree and argue to own a lib. I say the Dems are bad for doing something and that's goal tending?

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Did I hear anything from you about the left returning their seats taken by gerrymandering? Nope.

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What are you even on about? Gerrymandering is bad. End of my opinion.

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It as American as apple pie.

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bobbranco said:

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We get it. You are a leftist. Enjoy goaltending for them.

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Figures. You can't help but disagree and argue to own a lib. I say the Dems are bad for doing something and that's goal tending?

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Did I hear anything from you about the left returning their seats taken by gerrymandering? Nope.

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What are you even on about? Gerrymandering is bad. End of my opinion.

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It as American as apple pie.

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Wise words.

🚨 HUGE NEWS: Texas Governor Greg Abbott threatens to INCREASE the US House redistricting gain for Republicans from 5 to *8* SEATS if Democrats don't come back and allow a quorum.

LMAO. So their antics are only making it worse 🤣

THAT'S how you respond.

"What I'm thinking now… pic.twitter.com/sqiUX4f4vB

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 8, 2025

🚨 BREAKING: The Texas House just tried to convene again and there is NO QUORUM to pass a redistricting map.

The derelict Democrats will be brought back one way or another. pic.twitter.com/YH8bGrovZK

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 8, 2025

What a cluster.

I have a dumb question. I know the House of Representatives itself have no rules requiring a Congress member to live in the district they are representing but does the state of Texas require that. I have a vague recollection that they do require that.

Any word on what Gene Wu's quo warranto response filing looks like? Wasn't it due today?

Deadline for his response is 5 pm today.

They will be back by Monday.

You have a source.

When do they plan to announce that?

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🚨 JUST IN: Texas House Speaker announces INCREASED punishments for Democrats who fled

➡️ Paychecks MUST be picked up in person (no more direct deposit)
➡️ 30% of Democrats' office budgets cut
➡️ $500 fine per day
➡️ Must appear in person for any reimbursements
➡️ Banned from… pic.twitter.com/9vBMvhBYcB

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) August 8, 2025

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JUST IN: Texas House Speaker announces INCREASED punishments for Democrats who fled

Paychecks MUST be picked up in person (no more direct deposit)
30% of Democrats' office budgets cut
$500 fine per day
Must appear in person for any reimbursements
Banned from sending newsletters
Possible arrest by FBI

Ken Paxton is also attempting to have the civil arrest warrants domesticated in Illinois.

But there must be more. REMOVE THEM from office!

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I would rather see them being removed from their committees, but I know Burrows won't do that because he will likely need their votes again next session if he wants to be speaker.

Nah. Just starting to hear the "woe is me," and "we can't really stop them," narrative coming out.

That Texas Tribune article this morning was sounding both of those themes very loudly.

Good catch.

That's new.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/Quo%20Warranto%20SCOTX%20Filed.pdf

fc2112 said:

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Remember last time they left the state? The Voter ID law was going to cause an end to democracy and disenfranchise massive segments of the populace?

And it turns out all that didn't happen.

This gimmick needs to be ended. Petulant children only learn through harsh punishment.

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Not only did it not happen, but voter ID and other laws seem to INCREASE voter turnout, particularly amongst the minority population who can get a snap card, drivers license and a W-2 but not a voter registration card.

Remember this the next time someone post something from this Gunther clown.

Gunther Eagleman, a known undisclosed-paid poster on X, is now referring to House Speaker Dustin Burrows as a “MAGA Republican” after calling him a “coward” who has “no idea what he is doing” just 4 days ago. pic.twitter.com/YIhUlYCYLq

— Tony Ortiz (Current Revolt) (@CurrentRevolt) August 8, 2025

fc2112 said:

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Remember last time they left the state? The Voter ID law was going to cause an end to democracy and disenfranchise massive segments of the populace?

And it turns out all that didn't happen.

This gimmick needs to be ended. Petulant children only learn through harsh punishment.

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Interesting that all that talk of turning the state blue went up in smoke after the voter ID law passed... They still talk about it of course, but nobody takes them seriously.

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fc2112 said:

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Remember last time they left the state? The Voter ID law was going to cause an end to democracy and disenfranchise massive segments of the populace?

And it turns out all that didn't happen.

This gimmick needs to be ended. Petulant children only learn through harsh punishment.

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Interesting that all that talk of turning the state blue went up in smoke after the voter ID law passed... They still talk about it of course, but nobody takes them seriously.

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Would have been a lot more here if Abbott hadn't rounded them up by whipping them and then kidnapping them and loading them onto busses to god knows where with no bathroom breaks.

They almost had us and Paxton, Abbott and their pesky friends spoiled it again.