Texas SB25-Food Labelling Bill

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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https://www.cato.org/blog/nutrition-nannying-texas-sb-25-new-public-health-overreach

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If the governor signs the bill, starting in 2027, US food manufacturers will be required to place clear warning labels on products sold in Texas that contain ingredients such as bleached flour or synthetic food dyes, which other countries have banned or flagged with warnings. The bill lists more than 40 ingredients for which food manufacturers must affix warning labels. It also mandates daily physical activity for public school students from pre-kindergarten through eighth grade and requires nutritional education for students in high school and college. Furthermore, it establishes a Texas Nutrition Advisory Committee within the Department of State Health Services to develop dietary guidelines that inform state policies and educational curricula.


This seems like a gross government overreach.
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Government overreach would be telling the citizenry that they CAN'T have certain foods.

You still have the choice to put whatever crap you'd like into your body. But I for one would at least like to know what's in it before I make the decision.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

https://www.cato.org/blog/nutrition-nannying-texas-sb-25-new-public-health-overreach

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If the governor signs the bill, starting in 2027, US food manufacturers will be required to place clear warning labels on products sold in Texas that contain ingredients such as bleached flour or synthetic food dyes, which other countries have banned or flagged with warnings. The bill lists more than 40 ingredients for which food manufacturers must affix warning labels. It also mandates daily physical activity for public school students from pre-kindergarten through eighth grade and requires nutritional education for students in high school and college. Furthermore, it establishes a Texas Nutrition Advisory Committee within the Department of State Health Services to develop dietary guidelines that inform state policies and educational curricula.


This seems like a gross government overreach.


While I would normally agree regarding govt overreach, US food companies have been poisoning people with this crap far too long. Our country's health is a joke.
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I'm 'all in' for informed choice as long as I don't have to pay for people's bad decisions.

Unfortunately there are a lot of people that know what's making them fat and unhealthy but they overeat and consume garbage anyway.
Bob Knights Liver
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They should have to label those additives in foods. Let the people have freedom of choice.
BonfireNerd04
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We've had warnings on cigarette packs for decades, and people still smoke.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.

Apparently this is the label but I haven't verified it yet.

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WARNING: This product contains an ingredient that is not recommended for human consumption by the appropriate authority in Australia, Canada, the European Union, or the United Kingdom.
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High school kids should have required daily exercise in addition to the nutritional education. Middle school should have the nutritional too as that time in middle school really sets one up long term.
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I like it
superaggie73
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.


So you don't think people have the right to know what is going in their body?
aezmvp
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PE in public schools is worse than a joke at all levels. It's also a serious detriment to boys especially in the elementary schools. All for more of that.
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superaggie73 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.


So you don't think people have the right to know what is going in their body?


I think that the consumer should be the one that puts pressure on the companies to do this, not government. Did you agree with Obama Care and the requirement that menus have caloric values?
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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aezmvp said:

PE in public schools is worse than a joke at all levels. It's also a serious detriment to boys especially in the elementary schools. All for more of that.

I'm reminded of the P.E. final exam my first semester of high school. Yes, there was a final exam, because every class had to have one. I don't remember any of the questions, but it was multiple-choice and covered rules of sports and basic health knowledge.

Anyhow, the coaches decided to give a bonus point challenge. If you could successfully make a basketball basket from half-court, you'd get an extra 10 points on your exam. Well, of course I didn't succeed.

But there was one guy who did. And one of the coaches graded his final and informed him, in front of the whole class, that that half-court shot had made the difference between passing and failing for the semester. I'm not sure how exactly anyone could come close to failing P.E., given that most of our grade was just for participation. But I was impressed enough to still remember 28 years later.
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superaggie73 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.


So you don't think people have the right to know what is going in their body?

It's already there, on the label, in the "Ingredients" section.

Anyone that gives a **** already reads this section. The other 99.9% of people, don't.

I'm not for, nor against it, per se'....but it will do absosmurfly nothing, in the end, save for make companies jump through another hoop.

Gee, why did mfg run, not walk, from the US? Hmmmmm......weird.
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BigRobSA said:

superaggie73 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.


So you don't think people have the right to know what is going in their body?

It's already there, on the label, in the "Ingredients" section.

Anyone that gives a **** already reads this section. The other 99.9% of people, don't.

I'm not for, nor against it, per se'....but it will do absosmurfly nothing, in the end, save for make companies jump through another hoop.

Gee, why did mfg run, not walk, from the US? Hmmmmm......weird.

Exactly. If you want to bring back manufacturing to the US, get rid of the red tape and excessive regulations and don't add to them with bills like this.

Besides, when did we start letting other counties dictate what counts as safe/healthy? Sounds like we want to submit to their regulators…..
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Article is from June 4. Governor signed the bill on June 22.

Here is the label

(b) The warning label must:

(1) include the following statement if the food

contains an ingredient listed in Subsection (a), printed in a font

size not smaller than the smallest font used to disclose other

consumer information required by the United States Food and Drug

Administration:

"WARNING: This product contains an ingredient that is

not recommended for human consumption by the appropriate authority

in Australia, Canada, the European Union, or the United Kingdom.";

(2) be placed in a prominent and reasonably visible

location; and

(3) have sufficiently high contrast with the immediate

background to ensure the warning is likely to be seen and understood

by the ordinary individual under customary conditions of purchase

and use.https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/89R/billtext/html/SB00025F.htm
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I've never understood why were hold other parts of the world as the standard for what should be done. That's not the U.S. I grew up in.
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I'd like to clearly know if that bull**** is my food. Hopefully it shames these companies into removing these items. There's no government overreach here. If they told us we couldn't eat them then that would be government overreach.
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ts5641 said:

I'd like to clearly know if that bull**** is my food. Hopefully it shames these companies into removing these items. There's no government overreach here. If they told us we couldn't eat them then that would be government overreach.

Doesn't the ingredient section do that?

What makes me raise an eyebrow is "why the hell does Texas care what the EU bans?" Those liberal nuts shouldn't be whose lead we follow. Agree?

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The obesity rate of today's youth population is extremely concerning and is going to lead to unmanageable and expensive health crises down the road. Trust me I live in San Antonio and particularly the Hispanic teen population is super chunky.

The government needs to do what it can to equip people who may not have the time or money to learn nutrition on their own to make better choices for their children. Are these the best solutions, no. Do we need to do some things? Yes.

Limousine liberals are tying themselves in knots hating RFK and Trump but then not doing anything about what is going to become a national health crisis because they can afford gyms and to shop at whole foods.
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I don't smoke but there's probably not a week that goes by that I don't read an anti smoking/tobacco warning, but I do eat and drink and outside of alcohol I don't think I've ever read a warning label on anything I've consumed in the United States. There's something wrong with our food supply and at this point I'm willing to try most anything to expose the problem.
TexasAggie81
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Perhaps Abbott has been given the heads-up by RFK, Jr. on what's coming down the pipe and wants to get ahead of the curve.
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Increased labeling requirements increase costs. Turn the package over and read the ingredients. If you see something you don't like, don't buy it. Simple. Free.
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Im Gipper said:

ts5641 said:

I'd like to clearly know if that bull**** is my food. Hopefully it shames these companies into removing these items. There's no government overreach here. If they told us we couldn't eat them then that would be government overreach.

Doesn't the ingredient section do that?

What makes me raise an eyebrow is "why the hell does Texas care what the EU bans?" Those liberal nuts shouldn't be whose lead we follow. Agree?

Agree. If people don't care enough to read the ingredients, I don't see how this will make much difference, if any. Those same people will ignore the warning.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

superaggie73 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.


So you don't think people have the right to know what is going in their body?


I think that the consumer should be the one that puts pressure on the companies to do this, not government. Did you agree with Obama Care and the requirement that menus have caloric values?

I didn't at first but I have changed my mind on that.

This country is fat and unhealthy and there is an absolute correlation between income and obesity.

Now do the labels actually work? I don't know. The caloric counts definitely get my attention. My wife too. My boys are very health conscious and they pay close attention to what they consume.

I have a question for you though. Ever pause and think that having a population that is fat, unhealthy, low T, infertile, lacking drive, and dependent on government healthcare, may be to the advantage of a certain party?

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The ingredient list that the critics of this action refer to in here is mandated by the U.S. government.

Let's get rid of the ingredient list also! No government regulations! No government mandated speech!

LOL at the cognitive dissonance!
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In my lifetime, we've increased ingredient labels, standardized nutrition facts on food packaging, fully disclosed calorie counts on menus, and generally provided much information to consumers. And yet we're still getting fatter. Maybe 'information' isn't the problem
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Im Gipper said:

ts5641 said:

I'd like to clearly know if that bull**** is my food. Hopefully it shames these companies into removing these items. There's no government overreach here. If they told us we couldn't eat them then that would be government overreach.

Doesn't the ingredient section do that?

What makes me raise an eyebrow is "why the hell does Texas care what the EU bans?" Those liberal nuts shouldn't be whose lead we follow. Agree?

I dunno, have you been to Europe? They may be half commie, but they are generally in much better shape than Americans. Perhaps food is one area we should try to be more like them. It's just a warning label to let the consumer know that pretty much everywhere else in the world that has standards has banned the additive they are about to consume.
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I have a question for you though. Ever pause and think that having a population that is fat, unhealthy, low T, infertile, lacking drive, and dependent on government healthcare, may be to the advantage of a certain party?

Both parties suck up to Medicare recipients.
Just under 20% of the US population is on Medicare, and about 70% of Medicare recipients vote.
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Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.
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93MarineHorn said:

Im Gipper said:

ts5641 said:

I'd like to clearly know if that bull**** is my food. Hopefully it shames these companies into removing these items. There's no government overreach here. If they told us we couldn't eat them then that would be government overreach.

Doesn't the ingredient section do that?

What makes me raise an eyebrow is "why the hell does Texas care what the EU bans?" Those liberal nuts shouldn't be whose lead we follow. Agree?

I dunno, have you been to Europe? They may be half commie, but they are generally in much better shape than Americans. Perhaps food is one area we should try to be more like them. It's just a warning label to let the consumer know that pretty much everywhere else in the world that has standards has banned the additive they are about to consume.

Americans are also richer than Europeans. And European middle classes often pay more in taxes to offset the greater amount of social services
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Government overreach would be telling the citizenry that they CAN'T have certain foods.

You still have the choice to put whatever crap you'd like into your body. But I for one would at least like to know what's in it before I make the decision.

Bleached flour and food dyes are already labeled in the ingredients. In fact, I'm pretty sure flour that is "bleached" is right on the front of the package.
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Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?



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tysker said:

93MarineHorn said:

Im Gipper said:

ts5641 said:

I'd like to clearly know if that bull**** is my food. Hopefully it shames these companies into removing these items. There's no government overreach here. If they told us we couldn't eat them then that would be government overreach.

Doesn't the ingredient section do that?

What makes me raise an eyebrow is "why the hell does Texas care what the EU bans?" Those liberal nuts shouldn't be whose lead we follow. Agree?

I dunno, have you been to Europe? They may be half commie, but they are generally in much better shape than Americans. Perhaps food is one area we should try to be more like them. It's just a warning label to let the consumer know that pretty much everywhere else in the world that has standards has banned the additive they are about to consume.

Americans are also richer than Europeans. And European middle classes often pay more in taxes to offset the greater amount of social services

Yes, but their food seems to be healthier than ours. Nothing wrong with adopting what works better.
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