Texas SB25-Food Labelling Bill

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93MarineHorn
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Morbo the Annihilator said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?





We're supposed to know the risks associated with each chemical that appears on a food label? If a majority of 1st world countries have banned a food product that is still legal in the US I'd like to know about it.
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Try to find flour that is not "enriched."
93MarineHorn
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Say what you want about the EU, but their legislators don't seem to be as beholden to corporate $$ as our Congressmen. If they are banning a food additive it is probably for health reasons, not politics.
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The food chain in the USA is absolutely screwed. Trash quality, covered in pesticides, foreign beef sold as American.

But gullible idiots will support megacorporations monopolizing industries and filling every store with this crap because anything otherwise would be government overreach.

Your average American who barely has enough time between work and childrearing to go to the grocery store should not have to double as an investigative nutritionist just to find which products are not full of crap and which ones might be best for their children.

Yes, let us make abundantly easy for multinational corporations captured by hostile foreign interests to poison our most valuable asset, the American people.
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Emotional Support Cobra said:

The obesity rate of today's youth population is extremely concerning and is going to lead to unmanageable and expensive health crises down the road. Trust me I live in San Antonio and particularly the Hispanic teen population is super chunky.

The government needs to do what it can to equip people who may not have the time or money to learn nutrition on their own to make better choices for their children. Are these the best solutions, no. Do we need to do some things? Yes.

Limousine liberals are tying themselves in knots hating RFK and Trump but then not doing anything about what is going to become a national health crisis because they can afford gyms and to shop at whole foods.

I don't think bleached flour is to blame for that.
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93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?





We're supposed to know the risks associated with each chemical that appears on a food label? If a majority of 1st world countries have banned a food product that is still legal in the US I'd like to know about it.

First, don't eat crap. Second, if there's something you can't pronounce on the label that you're unsure of, don't consume it. Finally, an adult is supposed to take just a little responsibility for themselves.
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Morbo the Annihilator said:

93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?





We're supposed to know the risks associated with each chemical that appears on a food label? If a majority of 1st world countries have banned a food product that is still legal in the US I'd like to know about it.

First, don't eat crap. Second, if there's something you can't pronounce on the label that you're unsure of, don't consume it. Finally, an adult is supposed to take just a little responsibility for themselves.

It is all well and good to let your less intelligent or diligent countrymen turn into fat and poisoned slobs until it comes time to fight a war.

That is if you actually consider them your countrymen and not just glorified coworkers.
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93MarineHorn said:

Im Gipper said:

ts5641 said:

I'd like to clearly know if that bull**** is my food. Hopefully it shames these companies into removing these items. There's no government overreach here. If they told us we couldn't eat them then that would be government overreach.

Doesn't the ingredient section do that?

What makes me raise an eyebrow is "why the hell does Texas care what the EU bans?" Those liberal nuts shouldn't be whose lead we follow. Agree?

I dunno, have you been to Europe? They may be half commie, but they are generally in much better shape than Americans. Perhaps food is one area we should try to be more like them. It's just a warning label to let the consumer know that pretty much everywhere else in the world that has standards has banned the additive they are about to consume.

Also, city planning, since being able to walk to places instead of drive gives opportunities for exercise.

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gbaby23 said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?





We're supposed to know the risks associated with each chemical that appears on a food label? If a majority of 1st world countries have banned a food product that is still legal in the US I'd like to know about it.

First, don't eat crap. Second, if there's something you can't pronounce on the label that you're unsure of, don't consume it. Finally, an adult is supposed to take just a little responsibility for themselves.

It is all well and good to let your less intelligent or diligent countrymen mishandle and/or improperly store firearms.

That is if you actually consider them your countrymen and not just glorified coworkers.

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93MarineHorn
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Morbo the Annihilator said:

93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?





We're supposed to know the risks associated with each chemical that appears on a food label? If a majority of 1st world countries have banned a food product that is still legal in the US I'd like to know about it.

First, don't eat crap. Second, if there's something you can't pronounce on the label that you're unsure of, don't consume it. Finally, an adult is supposed to take just a little responsibility for themselves.

Pathetic response. "Crap" might not be "Crap" if it didn't have unhealthy additives that allow it to be more cheaply mass produced. We have a serious health problem in the US (just go to South Texas for proof). People being warned about harmful ingredients seems like an odd thing to oppose.
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Forgot how low the quality of posting is here sometimes.

Nutrition class should be after weapons handling and defective firearms should not be allowed for sale just as defective food should not be allowed for sale.
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BigRobSA said:

superaggie73 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.


So you don't think people have the right to know what is going in their body?

It's already there, on the label, in the "Ingredients" section.

The "ingredients" section doesn't show the amounts of anything, and gets to hide information behind vague terms like "natural flavors".
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Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.


Who determines what's harmful?
Urban Ag
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There are some primary differences between the euros and Americans as it pertains to overall health and food consumption. At least based on what I have observed myself.

First, and as noted above, they walk and bike a lot more than Americans. They also seem to be outdoors more and more active in outdoor activities. The condo I recently spent a week at in Lucerne, while nice, didn't have a single tv set in it.

Second, the emphasis on looks, beauty, fashion, whatever you want to call it, seems culturally ingrained and much more prevalent than here. This includes a slim and/or healthy body appearance.

Finally, and this is probably the biggest, is how they shop. Large grocery stores and big box places are not nearly as prevalent as here. Most euros buy small amounts of food that are consumed in a few days. There are small stores everywhere including denser metro areas. They are full of fresh produce, dairy, and meats. By contrast, American consumers mostly shop at big grocery stores and/or big box. We buy larger quantities that have shelf lives or can be frozen. Those types of foods are loaded with additives and preservatives because they have to be to last longer. Two totally different approaches to food shopping.

Personally, outside of Italy I think the cooking over there kinda sucks but it's undeniable they eat fresher foods with much fewer additives/preservatives, and are more active then average American.
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I think another issue is that EU obesity rates are also rising, especially in children.
Morbo the Annihilator
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93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?





We're supposed to know the risks associated with each chemical that appears on a food label? If a majority of 1st world countries have banned a food product that is still legal in the US I'd like to know about it.

First, don't eat crap. Second, if there's something you can't pronounce on the label that you're unsure of, don't consume it. Finally, an adult is supposed to take just a little responsibility for themselves.

Pathetic response. "Crap" might not be "Crap" if it didn't have unhealthy additives that allow it to be more cheaply mass produced. We have a serious health problem in the US (just go to South Texas for proof). People being warned about harmful ingredients seems like an odd thing to oppose.

You appeal to "Europe" as an authority (as if Europe wasn't an entire continent) then absolutely refuse to take any responsibility for yourself, which I suppose is par for the course. "Europe" had data that they spent a lot of money fabricating that AGW is real and is an imminent threat to mankind.

Who is forcing you to skip lean protien and green leafy vegetables in favor of Little Debbie and chicken nuggets? Are you not aware that fresh produce is better for you than crap from the middle of the supermarket? Label whatever you want if you need it so much. I just find it odd that people who otherwise claim to be so in favor of personal freedom are in such a hurry to have government hold their hands from cradle to grave.

Pathetic? I'm not a victim. Apparently you are.
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gbaby23 said:

Forgot how low the quality of posting is here sometimes.

Nutrition class should be after weapons handling and defective firearms should not be allowed for sale just as defective food should not be allowed for sale.

A mirror. Find one.
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Teslag said:

I think another issue is that EU obesity rates are also rising, especially in children.

I would point to a couple of reasons for that.

Immigration.

US Corporations. We won the fast food wars in Europe. The most prevalent fast foods chains are American. McDonalds, Burger King, and Pizza Hut abound.
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I think that is partially because of the increased Americanization, which is not always a good thing.

Also, I would not doubt the foreigners are importing ingredients and foods not up to EU quality for their food shops that the authorities allow because it would be racist to restrict any type of ethnic food.
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It is all well and good to let your less intelligent or diligent countrymen turn into fat and poisoned slobs until it comes time to fight a war.

That's why we use drones. And, AI will help.

Unless we have to fight AI. ONLY THEN we are screwed.
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Teslag
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The other elephant in the room is technology. We are becoming more sedentary. Even Europeans.
gbaby23
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Yeah, and the base of that is ultimately cheap imported labor unless we reached the point of widescale robotics.

Just removing foreign delivery drivers and landscapers/handy men from the ecosystem would increase the health of any first world nation.
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gbaby23 said:

Forgot how low the quality of posting is here sometimes.

Nutrition class should be after weapons handling and defective firearms should not be allowed for sale just as defective food should not be allowed for sale.




"These cans are defective."


( ...voice punctuated with a clap of distant thunder... )
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Morbo the Annihilator said:

93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

93MarineHorn said:

Morbo the Annihilator said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

Compelled speech? Lol. Looks like the libertarians are at it again.

Yes, I want to compel slop shoveling corporations to tell us what they're selling us. That includes caloric content AND harmful ingredients. The "free market" has been an abject failure in reigning in corporate greed at the expense of health.

Perhaps you should learn to read?





We're supposed to know the risks associated with each chemical that appears on a food label? If a majority of 1st world countries have banned a food product that is still legal in the US I'd like to know about it.

First, don't eat crap. Second, if there's something you can't pronounce on the label that you're unsure of, don't consume it. Finally, an adult is supposed to take just a little responsibility for themselves.

Pathetic response. "Crap" might not be "Crap" if it didn't have unhealthy additives that allow it to be more cheaply mass produced. We have a serious health problem in the US (just go to South Texas for proof). People being warned about harmful ingredients seems like an odd thing to oppose.

You appeal to "Europe" as an authority (as if Europe wasn't an entire continent) then absolutely refuse to take any responsibility for yourself, which I suppose is par for the course. "Europe" had data that they spent a lot of money fabricating that AGW is real and is an imminent threat to mankind.

Who is forcing you to skip lean protien and green leafy vegetables in favor of Little Debbie and chicken nuggets? Are you not aware that fresh produce is better for you than crap from the middle of the supermarket? Label whatever you want if you need it so much. I just find it odd that people who otherwise claim to be so in favor of personal freedom are in such a hurry to have government hold their hands from cradle to grave.

Pathetic? I'm not a victim. Apparently you are.



With all due respect, this is one of the worst posts I've read on this board. You claim you support limited government and want no labels, yet tell posters to read the ingredients label, which is mandated by the government!

You then ad hom Europe by bringing up irrelevant climate change.

You then post a strawman about people wanting cradle to grave government simply because they want a warning label.
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This is just an easy attempt at shaming the food manufacturers into maybe removing some of those EU banned foods.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I've never understood why were hold other parts of the world as the standard for what should be done. That's not the U.S. I grew up in.

The U. S. you and I grew up in no longer exists, to a great extent. Do you still trust the CDC, the NIH or the FDA to keep us healthy and provide the best food and drugs to the American people? There are too many people in NGOs and governmental roles that take money from PACs, lobbyists and corporations to put the job and Americans first.
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Americans believe too much of their own bullcrap
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The U. S. you and I grew up in no longer exists, to a great extent. Do you still trust the CDC, the NIH or the FDA to keep us healthy and provide the best food and drugs to the American people?

Hell no!

But you know who I trust even less? The EU and other liberal foreign regimes!

I'm Gipper
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BonfireNerd04 said:

BigRobSA said:

superaggie73 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I guess I don't understand why we're for government compelled speech.


So you don't think people have the right to know what is going in their body?

It's already there, on the label, in the "Ingredients" section.

The "ingredients" section doesn't show the amounts of anything, and gets to hide information behind vague terms like "natural flavors".


If "you" don't understand what's in it, don't eat it.

Not that hard. I read labels all of the time, now. Then, I decide if I want to eat that. Novel concept.

Yes, they're a result of other govt interference from the past. No reason to add MORE govt interference. This is like California and their idiocy with gasoline. This will make food even more expensive, at a time where that is big issue for a lot of families.
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Our beloved Texas Government, is becoming a Daddy State, like they are now helicopter parents. So many limits in place and more coming.
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Im Gipper said:

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The U. S. you and I grew up in no longer exists, to a great extent. Do you still trust the CDC, the NIH or the FDA to keep us healthy and provide the best food and drugs to the American people?

Hell no!

But you know who I trust even less? The EU and other liberal foreign regimes!

Food is like the only thing they do right.

Pretty much everything they have banned is some chemical additive. None of them make your food any healthier and the only thing they do is make it worse and make it easier for whoever is selling it to make more money. The only discussion is how much worse is that additive for you and how much is acceptable.

From past experience, almost everything is more harmful and present in higher amounts than they claim to be the case. Deferring to not allowing them is the better option in all instances other than deciding if profits outweigh your concerns.
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Food is like the only thing they do right.

Never had English food I see!


Kidding aside, isn't US chicken banned in by EU?

I'm Gipper
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
I've never understood why were hold other parts of the world as the standard for what should be done. That's not the U.S. I grew up in.

When other parts of the world CLEARLY have healthier food we should take a look at what they're doing. It's a warning label, not a ban on those ingredients. The US I grew up in gave a damn about it's citizens' diet, or so I thought.
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I like English food, but they do have some stuff that ends up looking like pure slop.

Yeah, mainly due to hygiene concerns from factory farming. Most chicken in America has to be thoroughly washed in a chlorine bath because of how disgusting those operations can be.
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Not that this is a federal issue, but "promote the general welfare". Seems like making sure people are not poisoned slowly by food they completely and blindly trust might fall within what should be a very limited scope of government.
 
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