Harkrider 93 said:

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Ragoo said:

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BusterAg said:

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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My wife and I are as conservative as they come and we both think RFK Jr is an effing moron.

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Did you take the covid "vaccine" and any boosters? Be honest with the forum. Trying to see how real confirmation bias is here.

RFK Jr knows a helluva lot more about this topic than anybody I've ever seen in the history of our government.

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RFK holds some very unscientific opinions, IMO.

His fascination with fluoridized water puzzles me, for example. As does his hang up on vaccines that have good data, like, for example, MMR, that I don't get.

I agree with him on a lot: carbs are bad, we need less additives in our food, the FDA holds up too many drugs and pumps out too many vaccines.

I don't think his opinion is always 100% informed by scientific data, but his opinion is definitely not formed by the public opinion winds that blow, which I appreciate.

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carbs aren't bad

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bad carbs are bad

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agreed. As with anything "It Depends" but a blanket catch all "Carbs are bad" is just not true.

Ragoo said:

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BusterAg said:

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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My wife and I are as conservative as they come and we both think RFK Jr is an effing moron.

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Did you take the covid "vaccine" and any boosters? Be honest with the forum. Trying to see how real confirmation bias is here.

RFK Jr knows a helluva lot more about this topic than anybody I've ever seen in the history of our government.

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RFK holds some very unscientific opinions, IMO.

His fascination with fluoridized water puzzles me, for example. As does his hang up on vaccines that have good data, like, for example, MMR, that I don't get.

I agree with him on a lot: carbs are bad, we need less additives in our food, the FDA holds up too many drugs and pumps out too many vaccines.

I don't think his opinion is always 100% informed by scientific data, but his opinion is definitely not formed by the public opinion winds that blow, which I appreciate.

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carbs aren't bad

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If you are an athlete in training, you absolutely need carbs.

For most people, though, this is absolute poison:



This is more realistic, even though IMO there is not good data to support the notion that gluten is not bad for you unless you have an allergy / sensitivity:


carbs aren't bad for you in the the same way that large gamefish like swordfish isn't bad for you. I wouldn't base my diet primarily on either. Most of the obesity in the US is due to too many carbs.

As a ~50 year old man, I try to focus on protein and produce.

Pharma knows the big money is the ongoing treatment drugs…not the drugs that actually cure/eradicate the diseases…When was the last time we saw a significant disease or condition cured?

BusterAg said:

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Ragoo said:

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BusterAg said:

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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My wife and I are as conservative as they come and we both think RFK Jr is an effing moron.

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Did you take the covid "vaccine" and any boosters? Be honest with the forum. Trying to see how real confirmation bias is here.

RFK Jr knows a helluva lot more about this topic than anybody I've ever seen in the history of our government.

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RFK holds some very unscientific opinions, IMO.

His fascination with fluoridized water puzzles me, for example. As does his hang up on vaccines that have good data, like, for example, MMR, that I don't get.

I agree with him on a lot: carbs are bad, we need less additives in our food, the FDA holds up too many drugs and pumps out too many vaccines.

I don't think his opinion is always 100% informed by scientific data, but his opinion is definitely not formed by the public opinion winds that blow, which I appreciate.

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carbs aren't bad

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If you are an athlete in training, you absolutely need carbs.

For most people, though, this is absolute poison:



This is more realistic, even though IMO there is not good data to support the notion that gluten is not bad for you unless you have an allergy / sensitivity:


carbs aren't bad for you in the the same way that large gamefish like swordfish isn't bad for you. I wouldn't base my diet primarily on either. Most of the obesity in the US is due to too many carbs.

As a ~50 year old man, I try to focus on protein and produce.

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agree 100%. But almost everything in your second pyramid is loaded with carbs. Specifically the fruits and vegetables.

I would not say that broccoli, celery, lettuce, green beans, or avocados are "loaded with carbs" carrots, either, although they have more carbs than the others on that bottom layer.

I agree that it is an overstatement that "carbs are bad"

I will defend that carbs are a much, much higher source of calories in the average diet than they should be in the U.S., and that this explains something like 90% of the obesity epidemic.

So, to restate, instead of "carbs are bad" it is probably better to say "carbs are much more dangerous than we treat them".

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I would not say that broccoli, celery, lettuce, green beans, or avocados are "loaded with carbs" carrots, either, although they have more carbs than the others on that bottom layer.

I agree that it is an overstatement that "carbs are bad"

I will defend that carbs are a much, much higher source of calories in the average diet than they should be in the U.S., and that this explains something like 90% of the obesity epidemic.

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agreed. The conversation around healthy diets needs to come to the surface. In fact I would prefer that to be RFKs top of mind and driving force. I would love for policy to incentivize for cheaper proteins and cheaper produce. The crap in the middle aisles is too easy and cheap compared to the good for your food.

how much alcohol is considered too much?

When does that guy have time to work? Every time I turn around he's being grilled by someone.

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ETFan said:

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Why didn't the chair swear him in?

Don't answer, we all know why. What a disaster for medicine, **** this admin, truly.

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This is the biggest disaster to happen to medicine in our lifetimes. RFK Jr and DJT are fixing it.

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So Doctors are bad for medicine, but Lawyers and real estate investors are going to help?

Interesting theory.

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Pharma knows the big money is the ongoing treatment drugs…not the drugs that actually cure/eradicate the diseases…When was the last time we saw a significant disease or condition cured?

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Between 2013 and 2017, depending on when you measure success, Gilead and their partners cured hepatitis C.

Absolute miracle.

It is worth noting, though, that one of the major shareholders of Gliead was against Gilead developing their first Hep C drug in the latest class (Sovaldi), as it was a cure and not a symptom treatment, and it was speculated that Gilead would have to charge like $100,000 per patient to justify the risk of success and also make enough money on it to make up for the cannibalization of other treatment and not cure drugs that Gilead sold. Gilead developed it anyways.

Current direct acting antiviral (DAA) Hep C treatments take around 12 weeks with around 90% to 95% effectiveness and cost around $50k, and they are totally worth it.

One of the most brain-numbing experiences I ever went through was listening to the witness who formulated the first DAA testify on a patent trial about a drug that sold $Billions a year, and how he only go paid like $25,000 for being the first named inventor on the most important patent covering the drug.

I'm sure the lawyers were paying him well for his testimony, because he was clearly not all that happy to be there, but said all of the right things.

1876er said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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ETFan said:

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Why didn't the chair swear him in?

Don't answer, we all know why. What a disaster for medicine, **** this admin, truly.

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This is the biggest disaster to happen to medicine in our lifetimes. RFK Jr and DJT are fixing it.

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So Doctors are bad for medicine, but Lawyers and real estate investors are going to help?

Interesting theory.

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The man pictured above is as much of a doctor as Marvel's Dr. Doom.

He has one priority in life, and that is to make money for himself, and the Hippocratic oath is far, far down his list of things that are important to him, right next to how much he cares about the content of this thread.

ETFan said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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ETFan said:

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Why didn't the chair swear him in?

Don't answer, we all know why. What a disaster for medicine, **** this admin, truly.

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This is the biggest disaster to happen to medicine in our lifetimes. RFK Jr and DJT are fixing it.

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You literally have no clue about that man, but go off!

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I have every clue about him I need. HTMFH.

Go get another booster shot like a good lemming!

BusterAg said:

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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My wife and I are as conservative as they come and we both think RFK Jr is an effing moron.

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Did you take the covid "vaccine" and any boosters? Be honest with the forum. Trying to see how real confirmation bias is here.

RFK Jr knows a helluva lot more about this topic than anybody I've ever seen in the history of our government.

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RFK holds some very unscientific opinions, IMO.

His fascination with fluoridized water puzzles me, for example. As does his hang up on vaccines that have good data, like, for example, MMR, that I don't get.

I agree with him on a lot: carbs are bad, we need less additives in our food, the FDA holds up too many drugs and pumps out too many vaccines.

I don't think his opinion is always 100% informed by scientific data, but his opinion is definitely not formed by the public opinion winds that blow, which I appreciate.

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That likely stems from a study done by the National Toxicology Program that found enough links between fluoride at 1.5ppm or above and low IQ in children to warrant further investigation. The current national standard for fluoride is 4.0ppm, significantly above that 1.5ppm line.

Fluoride is naturally occurring in almost all fresh water, but at much lower levels. It's the over-fluoridization of the water that has brought up concerns.

Bobby Kennedy is fantastic if for no other reason Americans now ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT HEALTH ISSUES.

guarantee that for 90% of the population- the last 3 democrat Secretary of HHS no one knew their names

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That likely stems from a study done by the National Toxicology Program that found enough links between fluoride at 1.5ppm or above and low IQ in children to warrant further investigation.

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I'm familiar with the study. It didn't control for some demographic things that absolutely have an impact on average population IQ. Cities that fluoridate water seem to have different demographics than locations that do not.

Again, no mechanism of action, and correlations in the field are suspect at best.

Ragoo said:

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BusterAg said:

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Ragoo said:

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BusterAg said:

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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My wife and I are as conservative as they come and we both think RFK Jr is an effing moron.

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Did you take the covid "vaccine" and any boosters? Be honest with the forum. Trying to see how real confirmation bias is here.

RFK Jr knows a helluva lot more about this topic than anybody I've ever seen in the history of our government.

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RFK holds some very unscientific opinions, IMO.

His fascination with fluoridized water puzzles me, for example. As does his hang up on vaccines that have good data, like, for example, MMR, that I don't get.

I agree with him on a lot: carbs are bad, we need less additives in our food, the FDA holds up too many drugs and pumps out too many vaccines.

I don't think his opinion is always 100% informed by scientific data, but his opinion is definitely not formed by the public opinion winds that blow, which I appreciate.

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carbs aren't bad

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If you are an athlete in training, you absolutely need carbs.

For most people, though, this is absolute poison:



This is more realistic, even though IMO there is not good data to support the notion that gluten is not bad for you unless you have an allergy / sensitivity:


carbs aren't bad for you in the the same way that large gamefish like swordfish isn't bad for you. I wouldn't base my diet primarily on either. Most of the obesity in the US is due to too many carbs.

As a ~50 year old man, I try to focus on protein and produce.

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agree 100%. But almost everything in your second pyramid is loaded with carbs. Specifically the fruits and vegetables.

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There is a difference between simple cabs (generally bad) and complex carbs (generally good). Your vegetables, fruits and whole grains have complex carbs whereas sugar, breads, refined grains, etc. have simple carbs.

Since evidently one has to be really specific on this thread - simple carbs are usually bad, and the average US fatty consumes way too many simple carbs versus complex carbs.

There are also the hidden calories that contribute significantly to the obesity issue and the drifting away from things like butter to seed oils in industrial and restaurant cooking that add a significant amount of hidden and empty calories to the average diet.

I'll listen to RFKJR about health and fitness the same amount I listened to Michelle Obama talk about nutrition and exercise. (The amount is zero).

Listening to politicians for conditioning, fitness and diet advice? You've got to be kidding. (I also don't take fitness advice from people in worse shape than me).

BusterAg said:

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schmellba99 said:

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That likely stems from a study done by the National Toxicology Program that found enough links between fluoride at 1.5ppm or above and low IQ in children to warrant further investigation.

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I'm familiar with the study. It didn't control for some demographic things that absolutely have an impact on average population IQ. Cities that fluoridate water seem to have different demographics than locations that do not.

Again, no mechanism of action, and correlations in the field are suspect at best.

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Which is why there is a push for additional study on it - if the information is good, it's good. Make changes. If it turns out the information is bad, then its bad and no changes are warranted.

And I'm completely of the mind that some people are just dumb, no matter how much or how little fluoride they consume.

I'm also of the mind that the older I get, the less crap I want added to things and that pretty much everything I learned about food growing up was absolute pure garbage. There is absolutely nothing wrong with pushing to have our food supply both produce cleaner and better food, but also having to label the food better so the consumer knows what's in it.

how many Bots are on this site? I at least hope they are all paying Texags

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tejas_ayanem said:

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RFK Jr is severely underqualified for this role.

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But a community organizer was supremely qualified to be POTUS?

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And an old man who had the brains of a jar of warm mayonnaise. It's all just tribal for them. They're only under qualified if they're not from the tribe.

There was a lot of money made, and to be made, from vaccine mandates. That could be going away. That's the REAL issue here. They don't give a **** about you or your kids.

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Worst appointment by Trump by a sizeable margin. May as well have put Alex Jones as chief of staff.

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Username checks out

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Nice rebuttal, he's still a complete clown and believes Alex Jones level stuff.

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TAMUallen said:

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Forum Troll said:

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Worst appointment by Trump by a sizeable margin. May as well have put Alex Jones as chief of staff.

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Username checks out

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Nice rebuttal, he's still a complete clown and believes Alex Jones level stuff.

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Yes when it comes to our national health systems he's you daddy and you need to show some respect. Remember, he now IS the science. Evidently it's a power vested in only certain people in charge of our health. He currently holds that scepter.

Don't like, go north, go south, buy a boat or catch a plane.

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tejas_ayanem said:

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RFK Jr is severely underqualified for this role.

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So the California lawyer and former AG Dr. Xavier Becerra was qualified?

Dr. Kathleen Sebelius, who undoubted brought her family history of running funeral homes, her masters in public administration and her experience as governor of Kansas made her highly qualified?

Or Dr. Sylvia Mathews, a management consultant and former OMB director who did serve on the board of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Were her qualifications acceptable?

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Don't be absurd. The left doesn't question the qualifications of cabinet members of democrat presidents for the simple fact that these folks are put in to actively pursue an agenda the left agrees with. The elected democrat's biggest political supporters get the nod.

When a Republican takes office, THEN it is about qualifications because the office actually means something. The left wants no part of a Republican agenda in any way. The media hiding the ball during the democrat "administrations" helps the left keep the focus off things in those years.

HHS is designed to create more dependance and more democrat voters. It is NOT designed to solve problems. When someone in there actually attempts to solve problems, rightly or wrongly, they open themselves up for criticism. I think all Republicans and all conservatives should back RFKj. I don't always agree with him but, regardless of the quality of his ideas, they appear to be his own. I seriously doubt he is working to make Trump or the Republicans more powerful. He just doesn't give a **** about his (former) party anymore.

Preach. I have come to like RFK Jr just a bit but he does have a little loon in him, bears, bicycles and Central Park for instance.

But Jim's main stchick seems to be in challenging status quo, being skeptical of what's behind new technologies, and being brutal about the issues beyond debate (petro based food dyes).

I tried to listen to this today, but it was such a ****show that I turned it off.

It was very much like one of the previous witch-hunts against Trump.

They tried to hard to paint RFKJ in a corner, but he didn't let them.

Reeeeee Reeeeeee Reeeeeee

You reclaimed your time… so to speak. Nothing wrong in that.