Who Leads Turning Point USA now?

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There is no single person to replace Kirk, he was too unique.

That said it isn't the worst thing. My hope is this is more like what happened when Andrew Breitbart died suddenly (and I still wonder about that btw but there is no real evidence of wrongdoing). Breitbart inspired everyone from Ben Shapiro to James O'Keefe and beyond. Kirk didn't know Breitbart but was also inspired by him significantly and especially Breitbart's mantra that "politics is downstream of culture" and his understanding of how to battle the Left with words but also fearlessly and ferociously. He woke a lot of people up and even though he has been dead 13 years the seeds he planted now epitomize the grass roots and intellectual conservative movement.

Unfortunately Steve Bannon destroyed the Breitbart organization from its original intent but that is less relevant. The larger point is that Kirk and TPUSA have inspired thousands of activists to get involved and impacted millions more as he was the voice of young conservatives and especially males. Hopefully this is a hydra type moment where they cut off one head and many more pop up in its place. It won't be the same but that is both good and bad, you can't kill a martyr twice and now criticism of him will be viewed very differently than it was before. For instance when MLK was alive (and I don't think of Kirk as MLK) he had a lot of criticism for his actions and positions (much of it valid) but afterwards to do so was the best way to have people dismiss anything else you said. MLK's death inspired an entire generation of leaders in the black community to the point where anyone who ever shook his hand was able to have his aura rub off on him (and was often abused with folks like Jesse Jackson and many others).

This is all very fresh so we don't know where it will go but I think somewhere between Breitbart and MLK in terms of impact on the future of the conservative movement.

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Ronald Reagan
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No one can replace him, but someone will try. They will also have to be willing to die for what they believe in because the left will demand their life.
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Ag87H2O said:

Harry Stone said:

There isnt another charlie. He was a one-of-a-kind

He's like Rush Limbaugh. People will attempt to take his spot and fill the role, but nobody will ever replace him. He was a unique individual perfectly suited for what God had him doing with his life.

Yes, this is what I am thinking. Someone will step in to fill Kirk's shoes, but like Clay and Buck replacing Limbaugh, it won't be on the same level.
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Based on the presser and the thread about the Utah governor, he could help lead.

But as others have pointed out, he is irreplaceable. However, in such a relatively short time he shared his approach, his example to a whole host of young, influential, conservative message.

He stocked the pond before was taken away. Another indication of how deep his impact was, is.
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Charlie was one of a kind. There is no single replacement but a team of 2-3 on stage at same time supporting each other might work. Riley, the black guy who works there, and someone else, maybe even Erika.
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He was truly one of a kind. Smart, witty, caring, and just an all around incredible person. His love for Christ was inspiring. He didn't just talk the talk, he walked the walk.
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JFABNRGR said:

Charlie was one of a kind. There is no single replacement but a team of 2-3 on stage at same time supporting each other might work. Riley, the black guy who works there, and someone else, maybe even Erika.

That's probably the best route. Again, sounds vaguely Apostolic secession. No single one to follow really stood over all, but the message marched on.
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Maybe Daily Wire could buy it. And they can do the same cross campus events, but swap out their personalities (and more) as the speakers/debaters. Just make it the TPUSA/DailyWire brand.
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HumbleAg04 said:

Doesn't matter who helms TP. The message Charlie preached and we all need to take to heart is the responsibility is ours. How we live our lives, how we raise our children.

We lead TP now, not the other way around.

THIS

hate to tell y'all but you will all die.

everyone dies.

thus NO ONE is irreplaceable.

when Reagan left the scene people despaired.

when Lincoln left the scene people despaired.

when Washington left the scene people despaired.

the REPUBLIC continues.
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Shapiro obviously isn't leaving DailyWire though. That's his TPU.

That's why Knowles is a better fit. Knowles is only 35 and said he was supposed to be on a campus in Minnesota with Charlie in like a week's time. He's familiar with the organization and probably ready to take over something.

He's also of a somewhat similar debate style and method as Charlie.

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Brilyn Hollyhand is sharp AF!
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Brandon Tatum
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TheEternalOptimist said:

Broseph said:

There's alot of young men in their ranks. Surely some one has the debate chops that Charlie did.

IDK..... but I am praying for he/she already. They will need it. Clearly.

God doesn't call the equipped. He equips those He calls.
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I dont think Ben Shapiro connects with the youth like Charlie did...(and his monotone high voice...dang).

It's got to be someone young, someone of Faith, and someone who is a master at debating. That is what set Charlie apart.
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AgGrad99 said:

I dont think Ben Shapiro connects with the youth like Charlie did...(and his monotone high voice...dang).

It's got to be someone young, someone of Faith, and someone who is a master at debating. That is what set Charlie apart.


And he talks too damn fast.
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Yeah, I like what he says most the time, but can only take him in short doses.
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Libs will tell you Ben Shapiro is too Jew and Guy Benson too gay to be accepted by TPUSA.

That's how lunatic they have become.
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JFABNRGR said:

AgGrad99 said:

I dont think Ben Shapiro connects with the youth like Charlie did...(and his monotone high voice...dang).

It's got to be someone young, someone of Faith, and someone who is a master at debating. That is what set Charlie apart.


And he talks too damn fast.

Listening to Ben Shapiro is like listening to Beaker from the Muppets.
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The Lord will raise up another good and faithful servant.

I've felt nothing but anger over the last couple of days, but the only comfort I can find when life really gets hard is my faith that this is all part of God's plan. I have faith he will use this heinous act ultimately for his glory, as he always does.

ETA: For me, Charlie wasn't a "Conservative" leader. Charlie was a "Christian" leader. For this reason, the only way to replace him is with another who is Faith driven.
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Lathspell said:

The Lord will raise up another good and faithful servant.

I've felt nothing but anger over the last couple of days, but the only comfort I can find when life really gets hard is my faith that this is all part of God's plan. I have faith he will use this heinous act ultimately for his glory, as he always does.

ETA: For me, Charlie wasn't a "Conservative" leader. Charlie was a "Christian" leader. For this reason, the only way to replace him is with another who is Faith driven.


Yep, the first and most important criterion is a God fearing outspoken Christian.
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After that speech, his wife. She knows his vision better than anyone.
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

Brandon Tatum


Hell no
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
Fat Black Swan
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Nm
flown-the-coop
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Does not need to be replaced, just needs the torch, the light, to be carried forward.

She and the others Charlie surrounded himself with and mentored will be ready to do just that.
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I believe that the Lord has this under control. After seeing the strength of his wife Erika, I am inspired that Charlie's vision will grow even stronger! I have always believed that God's hand was on him, and I am even more convinced tonight.
Gig'em, Ole Army Class of '70
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AustinCountyAg said:

not sure who step in to take Charlies place, but what I can say is I am damn proud that my small town (Bellville) has a turning point chapter at the high school. I firmly believe that in 10-15 years someone will rise up in politics and be inspired from this weeks events.


Wife's great nieces and nephew just started school in Bellville this year, moved out from Houston. She asked them how they liked classes there and the response was it's great there aren't any fights or drugs deals in the halls between classes.
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Is this the latest talking point from your latest scroll through instagram or Newsom's twitter feed, haha?

Think for yourself man, I promise it will be okay.

Also…why did you disappear from that Newsom thread where you are so boldly proclaiming what a bada** Newsom was for failing at basic comedy in attempting to satire Trump and how all of F16 was losing their collective mind for how sexy and cool his satire was?
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If Matt Walsh wasn't so arrogant, he'd be a good option. That's the challenge... Kirk did what he did with a lot of humility. That doesn't come naturally for public figures.
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Fat Black Swan said:

After that speech, his wife. She knows his vision better than anyone.

She can support of course, but it needs to be a man. Charlie was a man and spoke to men from the place that they were.
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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Erika said it herself in the statement last night… Charlie was careful yet determined to surround himself and his organizations with men and women capable and committed to carrying the torch.

The physical person may be gone but I think his example endures, is amplified.
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Singular individuals like him can never be replaced. But there will always be the next something new. More importantly, all of the good people that have been silent for years now need to speak up everywhere. Time to go Charlie Kirk on everyone.
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Harry Stone said:

There isnt another charlie. He was a one-of-a-kind


Yep. This is the disturbing part. They truly are pure evil, but they knew what they are doing. This was a devastating blow. I truly believe he would have had a great shot at being president one day.

They just took out the most important, valuable, and honorable person in the conservative movement. No one could possibly fill the void left. Hope I am wrong. But you are right, there was no one like him.
 
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