Tyler Robinson Charging Process and Defense Strategy

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ErnestEndeavor
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The defense is trying hard to get the case moved and make the trial and pretrial hearings non-public.

One of his attorneys, Nestor, is representing another high profile defendant in a murder trial right now. She is whiny, obnoxious, and will file absolutely everything possible even if it makes no sense. She's disorganized during questioning and frequently asks inappropriate questions.
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Andrea Burkhardt is covering today's hearing. She is a defense attorney based out of Washington state. She is based. In my opinion the highest quality legal commentator on youtube. Very educational.

https://www.youtube.com/live/xVFZU4r0SQY?si=29qvcxCdepxTCGFz
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Listening to the jury instruction conference for the trial Nestor is on now. Her strategy is to annoy, fight everything even when nonsensical, whine some more, then make side comments when things don't go her way. When the judge rules against her she keeps going.

She also knows nothing about guns. One of the
witnesses in this case was a felon in possession of a firearm. When she was questioning the witness she didn't know the difference between a clip and a magazine. She's a seasoned defense attorney who has tried a gazillion gun cases. And she's going to try one of the most publicly watched gun cases in history.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

The defense is trying hard to get the case moved and make the trial and pretrial hearings non-public.

One of his attorneys, Nestor, is representing another high profile defendant in a murder trial right now. She is whiny, obnoxious, and will file absolutely everything possible even if it makes no sense. She's disorganized during questioning and frequently asks inappropriate questions.

Bear with me as I remind as to public defenders for death penalty cases. Those DP case attorneys are certified for that. Meaning they have specialized training in that field. They also have a full team that works with them on the taxpayers' dime. Psychologists, multiple lawyers, investigators, jury consultants, even some forensics people consulting. OJ had a dream team even though he was not facing a DP case being in California and they don't have one.

BUT now there is a specifically trained "dream team" for public defenders' DP cases.
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And if this is the best they've got he's screwed.
BMX Bandit
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ErnestEndeavor said:

And if this is the best they've got he's screwed.


They need Ian Carroll.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

And if this is the best they've got he's screwed.

The point is he's receiving the max of due process.
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So weird he planted a gun and left a note.




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Clearly they were all in on it. The content of the communications between the trigger man and his lover all appear fake and designed to provide plausible deniability, rather than genuine conversation.
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ErnestEndeavor
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There's two threads now covering this trial process and I'm not sure which one to post on. This is on the first page so I'll post on this one.

Andrea Burkhart is covering the motion to remove cameras from court. As I said before, this defense team is going to throw everything at the wall.

https://www.youtube.com/live/jpiaBGqWRGA?si=YVt1Wjy9Yv_fRrZ0

Andrea also published a video two days ago talking about the ATF report which was just made public.

ErnestEndeavor
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Defense wants to delay prelim exam (probable cause) hearing for...reasons related to DNA?

State arguing there's no reason to delay. PC is clear. State laying out their case.

He's on video going to campus, walking around, returning wearing different clothes with a rifle in his pants. He leaves, gun found, handwritten messages on bullets. Confessed. Left handwritten note, texted lover, admitted to doing it. Admitted in text group chat he did it. Admits he knows where the rifle is. Turned himself in with help from a law enforcement acquaintance. There's your probable cause.

DNA tested and confirmed by two different labs.

But the defense wants to delay the probable cause hearing because they want to do more with the DNA testing. But that's not the point of a probable cause hearing. Absent the DNA they still have PC.

I'm telling you folks, this defense team's strategy in every case is delay delay delay delay delay delay motion motion motion motion motion whine whine whine whine. As common as that is for defense teams, this one will take the cake (and eat it too).
ErnestEndeavor
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Defense wants all of the FBI/ATF discovery before the preliminary hearings. Just isn't how this works in Utah. Per the prosecutor the plain language of the law that the defense is trying to use in this hearing flies against what they are arguing.

The whole point of the preliminary hearing is to establish probable cause, it's not the trial. The entire prosecution case will not be presented there.
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Defense wants six months for their DNA expert to review the data before they have a preliminary hearing.
 
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