***Official Govt Shutdown Discussion***

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will25u
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Is it just me or does it seem like nobody cares about this shutdown and even the media somewhat indifferent. I guess it's because it's the democrats that shut it down, if the republicans would have the country would be in the verge of collapse in the media.
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1939 said:

Is it just me or does it seem like nobody cares about this shutdown and even the media somewhat indifferent. I guess it's because it's the democrats that shut it down, if the republicans would have the country would be in the verge of collapse in the media.

The media knows that this one belongs to the Ds so they are loath to report anything about the shutdown that is affecting people negatively because they know it will get hung like an albatross around the necks of democrats. When the Ds were in the whitehouse, they would make sure that the shutdowns hurt ordinary people as much as possible because they knew the Rs were taking the blame from the public. Trump and co have done everything they can to make it not hurt ordinary people because they want to show that cutting large swaths of government funding can be done without cutting the things people want and need in their daily lives.
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Ensuring Continued Accountability in Federal Hiring (Trump EO Tracker)

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Imposes a government-wide freeze on civilian hiring across all executive departments and agencies, except for positions tied to national security, immigration enforcement, and public safety.

Requires agencies to establish Strategic Hiring Committees, submit Annual Staffing Plans and quarterly updates to the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and align all hiring with the administration's priorities under the Merit Hiring Plan.
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LMCane said:

Ensuring Continued Accountability in Federal Hiring (Trump EO Tracker)

Wednesday, October 15, 2025

Imposes a government-wide freeze on civilian hiring across all executive departments and agencies, except for positions tied to national security, immigration enforcement, and public safety.

Requires agencies to establish Strategic Hiring Committees, submit Annual Staffing Plans and quarterly updates to the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and align all hiring with the administration's priorities under the Merit Hiring Plan.

At first glance, it looks like this EO gives federal agencies a taste of the bureaucratic rules and regulations they've been foisting on citizens for the last few decades.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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Is the government STILL shutdown? I really couldn't tell.
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will25u said:




He's not wrong...
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1939 said:

Is it just me or does it seem like nobody cares about this shutdown and even the media somewhat indifferent. I guess it's because it's the democrats that shut it down, if the republicans would have the country would be in the verge of collapse in the media.


I was thinking the exact same thing today.

Normally with a shutdown it's front page news every day until it's over. But this is squarely on the Ds, so it's barely being reported....and it's one of the longer ones.
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It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.
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Don't disagree there.

Messaging definitely matters until then
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Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.
Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.
Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.


There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.
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clw04 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.
Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.


There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.


Folks with cushy jobs with the KNOWN risk of getting a delayed paycheck have to suck it up with the KNOWN risk actually happens.
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Science Denier said:

clw04 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.

Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.


There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.


Folks with cushy jobs with the KNOWN risk of getting a delayed paycheck have to suck it up with the KNOWN risk actually happens.

Maybe those people should just work when their employer is willing to pay them and shut down all air travel.
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clw04 said:

Science Denier said:

clw04 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.

Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.


There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.


Folks with cushy jobs with the KNOWN risk of getting a delayed paycheck have to suck it up with the KNOWN risk actually happens.

Maybe those people should just work when their employer is willing to pay them and shut down all air travel.


Good luck with that. Fire them and lose all benefits "earned" (lol) to date.

Don't show up when told? Don't show up ever.
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Science Denier said:

clw04 said:

Science Denier said:

clw04 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.

Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.


There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.


Folks with cushy jobs with the KNOWN risk of getting a delayed paycheck have to suck it up with the KNOWN risk actually happens.

Maybe those people should just work when their employer is willing to pay them and shut down all air travel.


Good luck with that. Fire them and lose all benefits "earned" (lol) to date.

Don't show up when told? Don't show up ever.

Let me know when there are people in the general public can backfill ATC - good luck filling all these "essential work" positions where people are working without having a clue when they will get paid for their work.

seems like for such cushy jobs they wouldn't have such a hard time filling them.
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clw04 said:

Science Denier said:

clw04 said:

Science Denier said:

clw04 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.

Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.


There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.


Folks with cushy jobs with the KNOWN risk of getting a delayed paycheck have to suck it up with the KNOWN risk actually happens.

Maybe those people should just work when their employer is willing to pay them and shut down all air travel.


Good luck with that. Fire them and lose all benefits "earned" (lol) to date.

Don't show up when told? Don't show up ever.

Let me know when there are people in the general public can backfill ATC - good luck filling all these "essential work" positions where people are working without having a clue when they will get paid for their work.

seems like for such cushy jobs they wouldn't have such a hard time filling them.


With the previous leadership " no white males allowed" not shocking that a temporary hiccup has happened. I'm sure Trump will fix it, like he's fixed almost everything else.
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1939 said:

Is it just me or does it seem like nobody cares about this shutdown and even the media somewhat indifferent. I guess it's because it's the democrats that shut it down, if the republicans would have the country would be in the verge of collapse in the media.


100%. Actually forgot about it until tonight.
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clw04 said:

Science Denier said:

clw04 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Catag94 said:

It will be a bigger deal come Mid-November when SNAP stops. I just don't see how Media will be able to ignore it.

Military and those connected are feeling it in different ways. Had an army customer moving to Texas today, but dry goods will not be moved until after this is all over.

Also have a renter who is a nurse on a military base. She told me she won't be able to pay until it's over. Of course I know she'll get her full pay, so I'm not concerned.


There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.


Folks with cushy jobs with the KNOWN risk of getting a delayed paycheck have to suck it up with the KNOWN risk actually happens.

Maybe those people should just work when their employer is willing to pay them and shut down all air travel.

Every single one of those people that is working WILL get paid.

MOST of the people on vacation right now will ALSO get paid.
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….i am waiting for the first plane to fall out of the sky.
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Listened to Dr Gupta's podcast on this topic and him and his guest were all doom and gloom about dropping the expanded subsidies for obamacare plans. No mention that this is just a way to give tax dollars to big insurance, no mention that it is not sustainable, no mention that it only INCREASES the cost of premiums due to the individual not having to foot the bill. Just all feels and worrying about the poor working people who cannot afford actual premiums.

No mention of getting the government out of it and allow market to control costs, no mention of going to major medical where you pay directly for routine stuff and have coverage for catastrophic problems (like auto insurance).

Such a mess, the more government gets involved the worse it gets and the lefties cannot see it.
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KidDoc said:

Listened to Dr Gupta's podcast on this topic and him and his guest were all doom and gloom about dropping the expanded subsidies for obamacare plans. No mention that this is just a way to give tax dollars to big insurance, no mention that it is not sustainable, no mention that it only INCREASES the cost of premiums due to the individual not having to foot the bill. Just all feels and worrying about the poor working people who cannot afford actual premiums.

No mention of getting the government out of it and allow market to control costs, no mention of going to major medical where you pay directly for routine stuff and have coverage for catastrophic problems (like auto insurance).

Such a mess, the more government gets involved the worse it gets and the lefties cannot see it.

Really grateful we've got doctors like you who understand the situation so well.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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techno-ag
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At this point just forget the CR and wait it out to the next deadline.
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It may get ugly if the military doesn't get paid.
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will25u said:




Every so often the mask slips down and some truth spills out.

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will25u said:



Uh Oh.

RINOS caving in 5...4...3...
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There are a ton of people working knowing they aren't getting a paycheck for a while so that things that are deemed essential by the presidents administration continue to move along. My guess is people would feel the effects of the shutdown a lot more if those functions stopped happening.

Definitely. Maybe democrats will allow the government to open back up at some point.
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Science Denier said:

will25u said:



Uh Oh.

RINOS caving in 5...4...3...

Thats not what I took from that at all. I took it as they were going to go try to pull a few dems away from Schumer by beating the drum that Schumer is beholden to the marxists in NY and they will be too if they keep going along with him.
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txags92 said:

Science Denier said:

will25u said:



Uh Oh.

RINOS caving in 5...4...3...

Thats not what I took from that at all. I took it as they were going to go try to pull a few dems away from Schumer by beating the drum that Schumer is beholden to the marxists in NY and they will be too if they keep going along with him.

When Republicans "negotiate" it means they give something. This needs to be a clean CR. Period. Giving anything else is caving unless they get something in return.

Like,l

If libs want to add ANYTHING, then the Republicans should demand making registering for voting illegal if you are not a citizen as well as requiring an ID to vote.
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