TheCurl84 said:

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Seriously though, Bondi should be fired.

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Why exactly she is doing a good job

Your tag line says:

I will no longer discuss politics with you. I reject your premises and world view. I am finished trying to compromise with you.

Pretty sure that combined with the "**** YOU TOO" means you're looking to vent and for pity.

Yeah Pam Bondi is an idiot for what she said. Super disappointed in that. But jawboning is legal according to the Supreme Court. I refuse to fight a (increasingly less) Cold Civil War against people who hate me, my religion, my way of life and who will kill you and beat you for your opinion with one hand tied behind my back.

You know when the Marquis of Queensbury rules work? When both sides will agree and live up to them. Usually with a referee to call the infractions. Do we have that now? Do you honestly believe that is the attitude of the left? You're sad your side has drawn the line at the cold blooded assassination of one of their own followed by wide spread celebrations by the other side? I'm sorry, but sometimes you have to use the rules and play the game as it is. When one side has rejected the conventions, you fight them where they are and not where you wish they were. This isn't the Tip O'Neil Democrats, it's not Newt and Bill working things out while being deeply opposed. No, we're a few millimeters away from there being Bloody Kansas across the whole country. If Trump or JD got shot, maybe even Elon, this country would explode. And the left desperately wants it in far too high a percentage of it's adherents.

So you can ask for pity. You can vent about your beliefs. Fine. But sitting on the sidelines isn't much of an option anymore because they'll come for you. In some cases they'll murder you in the street for doing your job and lionize you. Or for talking to someone and post celebratory dances on Tic Tok. Youth pastors did it. The left is so soaked in this that leftist pastors were celebrating publicly. They'll go on TV and lie about it, blame you and double, triple, quadruple down. Know the hour. If you want an off ramp you get on sides or you acquiesce to the coming chaos.

The left thinks speech is violence.

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"That choice doesn't seem so tough to me," Kimmel said. "Vaccinated person having a heart attack? Yes, come right in. We'll take care of you. Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo? Rest in peace, wheezy."

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Queso1 said:

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I feel like a dog without a home.

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Where do the Bill Kristol people hang out? That might be your calling.

Exactly this

Freedom of speech is a fundamental right.

Also, companies/corporations have the right to fire folks who speak in a way that reflects poorly on their employers, on either side.

Already posted, but can't be said enough, because some people are too dumb to get it:

Freedom of speech is NOT freedom from responsibility and consequences.

Mark Zuckerberg, in a letter to the House Judiciary Committee, stated that senior officials from the Biden administration "repeatedly pressured" his teams for months to censor "certain COVID-19 content," including humor and satire. He also said that officials expressed "a lot of frustration" when the company didn't agree.

jacketman03 said:

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Sure looks like a big steaming pile of hypocrisy to me, but what do I know, I'm a "concerned moderate", right?

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I'm sure it had nothing to do with a pending multi-billion dollar merger and the one footing the bill didn't want their brand to become absolutely worthless like msnbc and sold off for the value of the camera equipment.

But what about the actual words that Brendan Carr actually used in the clip with Hannity, where he was taking credit for it?

I'm guessing he's referring to Trump's comments about stripping FCC licenses from media companies that oppose him. That is legitimately concerning long-term although I don't understand the real impact of it because it's just the broadcast networks that have one.

Example: FNC does not have an FCC license like ABC, NBC, and CBS do because it's not an OTA channel. Having an FCC license seems like a dinosaur at this point considering cable, satellite, and streaming markets we have now.

In theory, if I'm one of the latter and lost my license, then I simply move my national news departments to a cable satellite format like FNC and run an end around. However, they also probably already know that is a massive money losing venture since Democrat eyeballs are already split across a half dozen networks whereas conservative eyeballs are all on one network.

Someone who understands the FCC much better than me will weight in, I'm sure.

What Trump said:

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"They give me only bad press, but they're getting a license," Trump said while speaking to reporters on Air Force One. "I would think maybe their license should be taken away, it will be up to Brendan Carr," referring to the Federal Communications Commission chairman.

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Some of us saw a man assassinated over words. Others tried to spin themselves into victimhood when they're the antagonists.

President Trump suggested today that media outlets are engaging in “hate speech” by being “unfair” to him and “maybe” should be prosecuted.

Trump’s statement demonstrates the inherent danger of “hate speech” laws: Those in power will always weaponize them to silence dissent. pic.twitter.com/Zs6OV05aXs

— FIRE (@TheFIREorg) September 16, 2025

Add in Brendan Carr "suggesting" that ABC's license be looked into. The media gets to say mean things about the president that may give him a case of the asschafe. That's core 1A protected speech.

Texas 8&4 said:

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Queso1 said:

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The left wants to censor speech. The right wants to censor speech. People on the right decried cancel culture and yet here they are cancelling away. You know who you are.

I have always voted conservative because I saw it as the best option to avoid authoritarianism. I dismissed people saying the right was authoritarian. But, after the last few days and Bondi's statement, I really don't know anymore. To hear a conservative AG spew **** about hate speech sent a chill up my spine. Sure I despise the left and what they say, but they have the right to say it.

I'm sure many will reply with "are you concerned?" and the standard braindead mocking replies. Others will engage in ad hominem attacks. People will say that private companies have the right to censor - sure they do…and I'd probably have bought that argument until I heard what Bondi said. I've been outspoken about the leftists, but if you support this stuff, **** YOU TOO.

If you support this, you are no better than the leftists that quelled free speech the last decade.

I feel like a dog without a home.

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You lost me here. How exactly is the right trying to censor speech? If you are referring to Kimmel, I encourage you to study the facts in more detail.

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We can do this the easy way or the hard way.

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Texas 8&4 said:

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Queso1 said:

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The left wants to censor speech. The right wants to censor speech. People on the right decried cancel culture and yet here they are cancelling away. You know who you are.

I have always voted conservative because I saw it as the best option to avoid authoritarianism. I dismissed people saying the right was authoritarian. But, after the last few days and Bondi's statement, I really don't know anymore. To hear a conservative AG spew **** about hate speech sent a chill up my spine. Sure I despise the left and what they say, but they have the right to say it.

I'm sure many will reply with "are you concerned?" and the standard braindead mocking replies. Others will engage in ad hominem attacks. People will say that private companies have the right to censor - sure they do…and I'd probably have bought that argument until I heard what Bondi said. I've been outspoken about the leftists, but if you support this stuff, **** YOU TOO.

If you support this, you are no better than the leftists that quelled free speech the last decade.

I feel like a dog without a home.

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You lost me here. How exactly is the right trying to censor speech? If you are referring to Kimmel, I encourage you to study the facts in more detail.

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We can do this the easy way or the hard way.

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Oh please educate us

I agree on Bondi's comments. Completely unacceptable. That said, the right is miles and miles behind the left on bad behavior so plug your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. What else can one do?

OP posted 19 minutes ago and already 50+ replies.

I love these threads.

That is the exact wording used by the FCC chair regarding FCC licenses, so maybe you could ask him for that education.

The board is nowhere near that imbalanced on the free speech issue in either ofnour lifetimes and you know it.

He got fired for refusing to retract his lie. Something everyone knew was a lie and was gaslighting. He said nope not doing it. Thoughts on him refusing to correct his lie

jacketman03 said:

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That is the exact wording used by the FCC chair regarding FCC licenses, so maybe you could ask him for that education.

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I already said the affiliates pressured ABC not the fcc want to try again?

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is a U.S. government agency that regulates interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable. For network television, the FCC's rules are primarily based on the principle of serving the "public interest, convenience, and necessity."

Content Regulation: This is one of the most well-known aspects of FCC rules. The agency prohibits the broadcast of obscene material at all times.

Just stop.

Kimmel, like Colbert saw a massive ratings drop YoY and escalating production costs. His contract was reaching it's end and when he popped off, it was the affiliates, not the FCC that went ballistic. It was the affiliates that caused this. Now the FCC and Trump and for sure spiking the football, but they were never the cause of this and we have video after video of Carr confirming this.

backintexas2013 said:

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He got fired for refusing to retract his lie. Something everyone knew was a lie and was gaslighting. He said nope not doing it. Thoughts on him refusing to correct his lie

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Furthermore, his opening monologue the night he was fired was supposed to double down.

Who was it who tried to create a "disinformation czar" that was a woke ******?

Pesky conservatives!

Also where was this same energy from the left and cm when twitter was censoring conservative voices and spreading lies , and wanting to get people fired for talking about Covid.

Y'all are hypocrites of the highest order

half the country is concerned about the radicalized mentally ill party murdering people for having normal rational opinions on free speech

the other half is mad that the AG said something stupid about hate speech and a bad comedian being cancelled. i just don't have enough Fs to give about some of these "concerns"

BlueSmoke said:

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Just stop.

Kimmel, like Colbert saw a massive ratings drop YoY and escalating production costs. His contract was reaching it's end and when he popped off, it was the affiliates, not the FCC that went ballistic. It was the affiliates that caused this. Now the FCC and Trump and for sure spiking the football, but they were never the cause of this and we have video after video of Carr confirming this.

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They refuse to understand this

The affiliates pressured ABC hours after Carr went on Benny Johnson's podcast and said "Frankly, when you see stuff like this I mean, we can do this the easy way or the hard way, these companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there's going to be additional work for the F.C.C. ahead"

Wanna try again?

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But jawboning is legal according to the Supreme Court.

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Perhaps we have different views on what jawboning is, but the Supreme Court said "Government officials cannot attempt to coerce private parties in order to punish or suppress views that the government disfavors."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-842_6kg7.pdf