Free speech

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87IE said:

Bondag said:

FireAg said:

Nexstar is now on record as saying they had no contact with the FCC or any other government agency, and they made the decision to pull Kimmel's show unilaterally:

https://deadline.com/2025/09/nexstar-jimmy-kimmel-trump-fcc-1236548804/

the issue is not what happened, but what FCC said. The next time democrats take power the timeline won't matter but the words will

The issue is what DIDN'T HAPPEN.... The FCC didn't tell anyone to pull the plug on Kimmel.

The next time someone else is in charge they can say they are going to investigate all they want.

Until they take a direct action there isn't any free speech violation.

Threatening to search my house without a warrant isn't the same as searching it without one.


What can you prove in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion?


Part of addressing the question is determining how one could reasonably interpret Carr's comments as an FCC official, rather than as a private citizen. As upheld in NRA v. Vullo:

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The Court held that government officials cannot wield threats of legal sanctions or other forms of coercion to repress disfavored speech. The Court stated that even if an official lacks direct authority to enforce legal sanctions, if their communications reasonably suggest coercion, compliance cannot be considered voluntary.


https://www.afslaw.com/perspectives/alerts/supreme-court-rules-nra-v-vullo-landmark-decision-upholds-first-amendment

87IE
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So when will he be tried in court?
Ellis Wyatt
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Since the cancellation was before the comments, they may need a Delorean.
HTownAg98
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He'll never be tried in court. That's not how it works. But if someone sues the FCC, what Carr has said might make it into the brief if it's relevant.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Since the cancellation was before the comments, they may need a Delorean.


The comment in question, ie "we can do this the easy way or the hard way" came before the suspension was announced. Carr's "we're not done yet" comment came the following day.
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

It seemed more like an opinion than a lie… his opinion is that the shooter was right wing….

Like Brian kilmeade suggesting homeless should be killed by lethal injection if they resist care. That's his opinion, and he's still on the air.

Who's sock is this?
Ellis Wyatt
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Give it up. Their local stations told them what time it was.
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

It seemed more like an opinion than a lie… his opinion is that the shooter was right wing….

Like Brian kilmeade suggesting homeless should be killed by lethal injection if they resist care. That's his opinion, and he's still on the air.
Kilmeade is not 'on the air'. He's on cable. Very different. And he was terribly wrong with his opinion.
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AggiePops said:

AgBQ-00 said:

which book bans?

there have not been any bans. taking porn out of elementaries does not make a ban

Try to pull your head out and finally breathe fresh air. A great many books have been banned. Meaning pulled from classrooms and libraries, both school and public. Some have been called porn by some people. Unless it's unanimous it's just a difference of opinion. It's far from unanimous. Plenty of other books have been banned because their content, even if only a bit of it, doesn't comply with the bigoted, self righteous views of the right wing.

Are any of those books unavailable at the local bookstore or via on online outlet like Amazon? If so, then this is not an example of book bans.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

AggiePops said:

AgBQ-00 said:

which book bans?

there have not been any bans. taking porn out of elementaries does not make a ban

Try to pull your head out and finally breathe fresh air. A great many books have been banned. Meaning pulled from classrooms and libraries, both school and public. Some have been called porn by some people. Unless it's unanimous it's just a difference of opinion. It's far from unanimous. Plenty of other books have been banned because their content, even if only a bit of it, doesn't comply with the bigoted, self righteous views of the right wing.

Are any of those books unavailable at the local bookstore or via on online outlet like Amazon? If so, then this is not an example of book bans.


exactly right. I can r.emember when they pulled Huckleberry Finn out of school libraries because of character's name.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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AgBQ-00 said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

AggiePops said:

AgBQ-00 said:

which book bans?

there have not been any bans. taking porn out of elementaries does not make a ban

Try to pull your head out and finally breathe fresh air. A great many books have been banned. Meaning pulled from classrooms and libraries, both school and public. Some have been called porn by some people. Unless it's unanimous it's just a difference of opinion. It's far from unanimous. Plenty of other books have been banned because their content, even if only a bit of it, doesn't comply with the bigoted, self righteous views of the right wing.

Are any of those books unavailable at the local bookstore or via on online outlet like Amazon? If so, then this is not an example of book bans.


exactly right. I can r.emember when they pulled Huckleberry Finn out of school libraries because of character's name.

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Hank the Grifter said:

AgBQ-00 said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

AggiePops said:

AgBQ-00 said:

which book bans?

there have not been any bans. taking porn out of elementaries does not make a ban

Try to pull your head out and finally breathe fresh air. A great many books have been banned. Meaning pulled from classrooms and libraries, both school and public. Some have been called porn by some people. Unless it's unanimous it's just a difference of opinion. It's far from unanimous. Plenty of other books have been banned because their content, even if only a bit of it, doesn't comply with the bigoted, self righteous views of the right wing.

Are any of those books unavailable at the local bookstore or via on online outlet like Amazon? If so, then this is not an example of book bans.


exactly right. I can r.emember when they pulled Huckleberry Finn out of school libraries because of character's name.




This is what comedy should be.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

AggiePops said:

AgBQ-00 said:

which book bans?

there have not been any bans. taking porn out of elementaries does not make a ban

Try to pull your head out and finally breathe fresh air. A great many books have been banned. Meaning pulled from classrooms and libraries, both school and public. Some have been called porn by some people. Unless it's unanimous it's just a difference of opinion. It's far from unanimous. Plenty of other books have been banned because their content, even if only a bit of it, doesn't comply with the bigoted, self righteous views of the right wing.

Are any of those books unavailable at the local bookstore or via on online outlet like Amazon? If so, then this is not an example of book bans.

When someone says a particular book contains material they find offensive and demands it be removed, that IS attempted censorship. If it happens and the book is removed, the book was banned. A ban can be in a specific household or school/public library, or can be extended further. It doesn't have to be universal. Your words seem to indicate that if it is still available somewhere else it means it wasn't banned.
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AggiePops said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

AggiePops said:

AgBQ-00 said:

which book bans?

there have not been any bans. taking porn out of elementaries does not make a ban

Try to pull your head out and finally breathe fresh air. A great many books have been banned. Meaning pulled from classrooms and libraries, both school and public. Some have been called porn by some people. Unless it's unanimous it's just a difference of opinion. It's far from unanimous. Plenty of other books have been banned because their content, even if only a bit of it, doesn't comply with the bigoted, self righteous views of the right wing.

Are any of those books unavailable at the local bookstore or via on online outlet like Amazon? If so, then this is not an example of book bans.

When someone says a particular book contains material they find offensive and demands it be removed, that IS attempted censorship. If it happens and the book is removed, the book was banned. A ban can be in a specific household or school/public library, or can be extended further. It doesn't have to be universal. Your words seem to indicate that if it is still available somewhere else it means it wasn't banned.

The book is still available for the depraved to purchase it. Ergo, not banned.
Ellis Wyatt
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No, it isn't. Words have meaning.
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AggiePops said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

AggiePops said:

AgBQ-00 said:

which book bans?

there have not been any bans. taking porn out of elementaries does not make a ban

Try to pull your head out and finally breathe fresh air. A great many books have been banned. Meaning pulled from classrooms and libraries, both school and public. Some have been called porn by some people. Unless it's unanimous it's just a difference of opinion. It's far from unanimous. Plenty of other books have been banned because their content, even if only a bit of it, doesn't comply with the bigoted, self righteous views of the right wing.

Are any of those books unavailable at the local bookstore or via on online outlet like Amazon? If so, then this is not an example of book bans.

When someone says a particular book contains material they find offensive and demands it be removed, that IS attempted censorship. If it happens and the book is removed, the book was banned. A ban can be in a specific household or school/public library, or can be extended further. It doesn't have to be universal. Your words seem to indicate that if it is still available somewhere else it means it wasn't banned.

So, in your mind, "banning" Debbie does Dallas from being shown in the 3rd grade cafe during their lunch break is censorship? I mean, there is not unanimous support that it's porn, right?

Please keep stating your opinions. The entertainment value is awsome!!
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Sick freaks and low IQ brainwashed useful idiots fight hard to have gender queer pr0n in public elementary schools and scream about censorship when it's not.
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Strangely, I didn't notice any threads from OP on this. Must just be sick today.
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