EO signed to ban ICE in areas of Chicago

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ag98and 03 - you make your leader, Putin, proud.
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mjschiller said:

Chicago mayor is a black lives matter marxist.

He is clearly a honey potted pedo. Black people give zero ****s about illegals but here this guy is.
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annie88 said:

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Arresting illegals is lawful and completely under the control of Federal law.

Your post is complete idiocy filled with strawmen.




Oddly enough my point is exactly what the court decided when they said Trump's deployment of NG to states that do not want the NG is unlawful.

The courts are acting as they are supposed to. Checks and balances help prevent one branch from having too much power.




No, the courts are just going against Trump because it's Trump. None of these rules they have made over the last 10 months have made sense. They are literally siding with criminals, violence, and crime.

SCOTUS has done pretty well, IMO. The DC DCT is beyond dumb, but, once it hits SCOTUS, the Trump DOJ is winning most of the time.
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Ag98and03 said:

Our Constitution has to hold. Our government laws have to hold. If they don't, we literally can lose our country.

You should tell that to pretty much every government official in Chicago. And the autopen administration in the White House before Trump.

Or is it OK for Dems to ignore the constitution, just not Trump.
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Ag98and03 said:

Trump's repeated lie is that these cities are out of control.

When the city leadership, their local police, and state governors are repeatedly telling you that they have things under control and DO NOT NEED NATIONAL GUARD, that is it. Leave them alone.

State's rights include calling up the NG. The local people know best whether they need NG or not.

Why is this so hard to understand?

In the 90s I vacationed in Chicago. Had a great time. Went to a Cubs and a White Sox game. Did the Miracle Mile and the Navy Pier. Walked through that underground road that years later I recognized in The Dark Knight Returns. When I returned to work and was telling a co-worker who was from Chicago about my experience, I relayed my view from the upper deck of New Comiskey - seeing what looked like something out of a WWII book of bombed-out Berlin on the other side of the El. This gal told me that had I taken a left coming off the El rather than a right, I would not have made it out of that bombed-out area alive. It was the projects.

Chicago is regularly mentioned on the Michael Berry show for its number of gun deaths over any given short time frame, typically a weekend but often just a day. The numbers are always quite high, relatively speaking. No one should have to wonder if they made a wrong turn getting off the El, and then find out with finality that they did make a wrong turn.

Nope, that city is not safe overall. If the city "leadership" is doing such a bang up job (yes, that's an intended pun) then all these murders happening on a daily basis would not be happening.
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Just cordon off the no ice zone. Surround it and go house to house until you clean the human debri out and off to their county of origin.
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Yep, ICE should go there today. I was under the impression after the horror of Jan 6 that the dems truly cared about our LEO's. Could that have been a lie??
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Maroon Dawn said:

He knows he can't do this but his goal is violence. He wants to be known as the guy who violently "kicked Trump out"

He's going to get people killed because he's desperate to distract the populace from what a **** job he's doing as mayor

He's desperately hoping a protestor is killed by ICE, whether justified or not. He's just letting his useful idiots take the bullet for him and they'll gladly oblige.
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Ag98and03 said:

You guys are fully authoritarian. You want the federal government to shove whatever they want down state's throats.

The president makes up a stupid lie. You guys believe it.

And then you send in NG against the city and state's protests.

This is authoritarianism.

You are ripping state's rights away based on the premise of a lie. This helps no one. You are giving far too much power to the federal government

What happens if a Democrat gets into office and decided MAGA rallies are terrorist activities and sends in the NG against the state's repeated declarations that all criminal activity is under control by the local police?

Do you want a future president to have that power? Are you really thinking this through? I don't think you are.





Yes I fully understand the implications and want him to go a lot further.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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No cold drinks in those areas?
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Ag98and03 said:

You guys are fully authoritarian. You want the federal government to shove whatever they want down state's throats.

The president makes up a stupid lie. You guys believe it.

And then you send in NG against the city and state's protests.

This is authoritarianism.

You are ripping state's rights away based on the premise of a lie. This helps no one. You are giving far too much power to the federal government

What happens if a Democrat gets into office and decided MAGA rallies are terrorist activities and sends in the NG against the state's repeated declarations that all criminal activity is under control by the local police?

Do you want a future president to have that power? Are you really thinking this through? I don't think you are.




Think about everything you say/write and everything the elected liberals and liberal terrorists state they are doing and stand for. Now, let's look at the facts. Do these stats on this website (see link below) look like the stats in the community where you live? I don't think any of the counter-posts on this thread are going to make a difference with you or change your mind, but it's going to be difficult for you to challenge the numbers. Factual numbers don't lie, they are truth. You need to review this information and rethink your position. You better hope a clear thinking conservative politician is in the highest office to save your community if the crime stats start to look like the ones in the link. JMO

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Texans to the rescue!

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will25u said:

Texans to the rescue!



Does anybody know why they tapped the NG from Texas instead of Illinois? The president can federalize a state's guard over the objections of the governor. Trump did it recently in California.

Was it an optics thing?... 'we're going to send the guard from a red state to clean up your sorry blue state' kind of a thing?
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will25u said:



It is going to be virtually impossible to charge much less convict these people if the venue is in a blue state/city.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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MemphisAg1 said:

will25u said:

Texans to the rescue!



Does anybody know why they tapped the NG from Texas instead of Illinois? The president can federalize a state's guard over the objections of the governor. Trump did it recently in California.

Was it an optics thing?... 'we're going to send the guard from a red state to clean up your sorry blue state' kind of a thing?

Probably because they know there are plenty of judges who would block it instantly.

I don't know the makeup of the appeals court for Illinois, but if it leans left, then it could get tied up there too and for a good amount of time.

Since Abbott gave Trump permission to use the Texas NG, it removes that particular avenue of lawfare for the governor or mayor to use.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Thanks
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Rockdoc said:

Ag98and03 said:

Trump's repeated lie is that these cities are out of control.

When the city leadership, their local police, and state governors are repeatedly telling you that they have things under control and DO NOT NEED NATIONAL GUARD, that is it. Leave them alone.

State's rights include calling up the NG. The local people know best whether they need NG or not.

Why is this so hard to understand?

You go to those cities and walk the streets at night. Be sure and video it for us and show us how "in control" those cities are. We'll be waiting for your videos, if you survive. If dems couldn't lie, they couldn't talk.

I'll pitch in $100 for his plane ticket.
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CNN use to stand for Clinton Nation News. Now it stands for Communist Nation News.
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mjschiller said:

CNN use to stand for Clinton Nation News. Now it stands for Communist Nation News.

Correct. You have a good long memory. Still remember the "Clinton News" being slung around in the 90's.
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Ag98and03 said:

You can't shut off money to states that you disagree with. That's not how this works. Power of the purse belongs to Congress.

Again, another check and balance that for some reason you guys want to destroy.

What happens if a Democrat is in office and decides to cut off Texas funding for whatever reason?

Our Constitution has to hold. Our government laws have to hold. If they don't, we literally can lose our country.


You can cut it off if they're breaking the law and they are.
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Cut it off and then let the states take it to court. Let's see what the courts including the Supreme Court says. Same with the NG in cities. If it's against the constitution take it to court.


But to go back to the actual topic. The cities most likely can't ban ICE. I believe they will lose that in court.
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Use the ever-basstardized interstate commerce clause.

"Look, they're interfering with a Kansas wheat farmer's wares...."
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This has nothing to do with illegal immigration.
Texas has a lion's share of illegal immigration.
No?
Yet Fed is sending Tx National guard to Illinois. Why not clean up Houston first? Why not show Illinois the value of chasing away all the scary illegal Mexicans.

This is about setting up shop for November elections.
He's just testing limits.

Not long ago, I recall Red states clamoring about their rights from Fed. As always talking out of both sides of mouth.
ICE is not hunting worst of the worst, it's mostly just grabbing low hanging fruit. Men with families, illegal or not.
It's embarrassing.
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Men with families? Illegals are illegals. Kick them all out if illegal. They are also arresting illegals that are committing other crimes. The reason they don't have to come to Texas is we aren't actively preventing ICE from doing their job.


Your claim about November is laughable. Tinfoil hat type stuff. When that doesn't happen you won't admit you were an idiot to believe Reddit's conspiracy theories.

Embarrassing is calling an illegal "family men".
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aggiebones said:

This has nothing to do with illegal immigration.
Texas has a lion's share of illegal immigration.
No?
Yet Fed is sending Tx National guard to Illinois. Why not clean up Houston first? Why not show Illinois the value of chasing away all the scary illegal Mexicans.

This is about setting up shop for November elections.
He's just testing limits.

Not long ago, I recall Red states clamoring about their rights from Fed. As always talking out of both sides of mouth.
ICE is not hunting worst of the worst, it's mostly just grabbing low hanging fruit. Men with families, illegal or not.
It's embarrassing.

And THIS ladies and gentlemen is how you properly gaslight.

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backintexas2013 said:

Men with families? Illegals are illegals. Kick them all out if illegal. They are also arresting illegals that are committing other crimes. The reason they don't have to come to Texas is we aren't actively preventing ICE from doing their job.


Your claim about November is laughable. Tinfoil hat type stuff. When that doesn't happen you won't admit you were an idiot to believe Reddit's conspiracy theories.

Embarrassing is calling an illegal "family men".

You know, like the Maryland Man...
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Hot takes we've never heard before.

Maybe leftists could quit with the cultural Marxism and follow our laws. I know that's not possible for people with no moral integrity, but we can hope.

Your nonsense claims promote violence. Stop it.
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We're not even a year into trumps presidency is the left is pushing so hard against nationalism and supporting criminals and illegals.

This is going to be a great four years.
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"Why not clean up Houston first?"

On what planet do you live?
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Logos Stick said:

ICE should immediately go into those ICE free zones! Any and all Federal money needs to be withheld from IL.

The next Dem prez will eliminate the borders and ICE altogether.




He's not wrong….. meaning Matt Walsh
 
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