Insurrection Act was always the plan. Not even a year in.

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AtomicActuator said:

Sounds like constitutionally protected speech to me. People around here used to care about that didn't they?

How'd that work out for Charlie Kirk?
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Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.

Wow yeah, deep thoughts from old mcdonald. You sure hit the nail on the head with that one. F-ing ********
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Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?
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Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

Here's the enemy from within:

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Tango.Mike said:

Where did I say anything about dangerous per capita? Dude I mocked said Chicago didn't have any crime or homelessness problems or any filth because he bar hopped in Wrigleyville for a couple hours.


Sweet, so we agree that Chicago is relatively safe for a large US city. Carry on.
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AtomicActuator said:

Tango.Mike said:

…believe his opinion not the statistics

which stats are you using that show Chicago as among the most dangerous cities per capita? Everywhere I look, I see Memphis at the top, and Chicago way down the list.

When your city commits so many murders over weekends that it is the source of long running memes about it, you have a problem you can't just pretend away.
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oldag941 said:

I have a best friend that lives in Portland. The city isn't burning down. The crazy area is a block or two and locals know to stay away. Just like Houston or Dallas or any other city.

I lived in Portland in the early 90's. It was (and can be) an amazing city. You did not have to worry about any block at that time. Coming from Houston, the contrast was remarkable. These are not homeless bums messing up the ambience. They are agitators. Organized, militerized in some cases, and dangerous. Locals should not have to settle for a new normal.

They are threatening federal buildings and the locals are not doing enough to control the situation. With the recent spike in lethal violence, this is a big deal. Im all for a discussion about who is best suited to bring back some sense of normalcy but to dismiss this as a non-issue is misguided and dangerous.

Curious how long your friend has been in Portland? Does he know what it was like 20 years ago? I know people there too and every one of them say it is a disaster waiting to happen (and in some cases it has already happened).
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It's so weird that 3 pages in and shifty has yet to return to the thread he/she started.
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It's not great, but there are 91 cities worse than it, including tourist destinations like Nashville. The attention it gets isn't warranted unless you are bad at stats.

Edit: and to bring this back on topic, Portland is also relatively safe based on the stats.
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oldag941 said:

I have a best friend that lives in Portland. The city isn't burning down. The crazy area is a block or two and locals know to stay away. Just like Houston or Dallas or any other city.

Point of order:

Is there any that are concerned between the discrepancy of what some Portlanders are saying and what you see on the news about the level of chaos?

Remember any national news is only what they choose to show or tell you.

There shouldn't be any "no-go" zones in cities but a ones of a block or two or more are unfortunately indeed common. The implications are different.

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Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?
trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.
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oldag941 said:

Not at all. I'm just saying the exaggeration of "Portland is burning" is a false narrative. The protests are 10-20 people. Not hundreds. Nothing is being burned (currently). I'm a supporter but the exaggeration and hyperbole isn't useful for confidence in the reactive action.

There will always be hyperbole in these situations and I agree it is not helpful. That said, downplaying the threat is equally if not more destructive. There is a problem in Portland (and spreading through the country). Law enforcement must step in and do their job. You keep saying that it is peaceful and it is only 2 blocks, 20-30 people. That is irrelevant (and not wholly accurate). People are now being murdered and the violence is becoming engrained in the ethos of these groups. Something has to be done.

What if we were to say that school shootings are only in a small percentage of cities and buildings and we should all stop wringing our hands and exagerating the problem?

I agree how we approach this should be well thought out and should be lawful. Acting like everything is a-ok is nuts, it's not.
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Let's not get distracted by the misdirection leftists on here and elsewhere about this situation. Here is exactly what is going on and all this nonsense about "just a few blocks" or the legality of using the NG or Trump's disposition towards the use of power is just meant to take your eye off the ball.

The reason any of this is violence and unrest is occurring is because:

1. democrats need bodies to raise apportionment for congressional seats

2. democrats need bodies to run election voting scams

3. democrats need a permanent underclass to justify their wealth redistribution plans

4. democrats (and a few Republicans) enjoy the skimming and grifting that comes with wealth redistribution plans

5. democrats need a population that is ignorant of the legacy of the founding of this country so the results of that legacy can be stripped away with little resistance.

6. democrats don't care about crime because either they are the criminals or are insulated from the crimes.

They have to fight the removal of illegals because each removed person cuts into all of the above and it is the source of their power. Don't get distracted.
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AtomicActuator said:

It's not great, but there are 91 cities worse than it, including tourist destinations like Nashville. The attention it gets isn't warranted unless you are bad at stats.

Edit: and to bring this back on topic, Portland is also relatively safe based on the stats.

The stats are worthless because a lot of these Dem-led cities have stopped reporting various types of crime.

Don't make the mistake of believing what they tell you.

Trust your eyes and word-of-mouth from people you believe.

Chicago is a hell hole, just like most large urban areas in the US controlled by Dems. They pass laws like in CA to decriminalize theft under $1,000. There's poop on the streets. Needles on the sidewalk.

Come on man... it's right there in front of you.
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But suddenly we care about riotous, unlawful assemblies around federal buildings and want to send in troops to clear it out
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t_J_e_C_x said:

But suddenly we care about riotous, unlawful assemblies around federal buildings and want to send in troops to clear it out



Thanks to Nancy Pelosi the NG was not deployed as requested beforehand.
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Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.


Underwater according to polls or elections?

Trump also won on immigration, crime, and being anti-woke BS. All of which you seem to can't wrap your head around. Or address. Which I'm fine with. I'm okay with you winning polls but losing elections.
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Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.

That doesn't appear to be what brought the Center left over when you look at their remarks. It was the degenerate agenda, open borders, and the clear bent toward statist authoritarianism for all the MSM's pointing at Trump. Businesses saw what was coming and the extent of federal control. In other words, all the anti-Americanism of the Bidenites.

The irony is if the Dems had just ditched the Bidenite/Schumer double-down they could pull a Bill Clinton. But they are reinforcing the Marxist message with the ones the MSM is propping up like Crockett.

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titan said:

Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.

That doesn't appear to be what brought the Center left over when you look at their remarks. It was the degenerate agenda, open borders, and the clear bent toward statist authoritarianism for all the MSM's pointing at Trump. Businesses saw what was coming and the extent of federal control. In other words, all the anti-Americanism of the Bidenites.

The irony is if the Dems had just ditched the Bidenite/Schumer double-down they could pull a Bill Clinton. But they are reinforcing the Marxist message with the ones the MSM is propping up like Crockett.



Because I oppose Trump doesn't mean I liked or supported Biden.
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Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.


Underwater according to polls or elections?

Underwater because gaslighting newsreaders say he's underwater. And because the squishy masses and the brain dead are easily swayed to repeat the nonsense. Duh.
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MemphisAg1 said:

AtomicActuator said:

It's not great, but there are 91 cities worse than it, including tourist destinations like Nashville. The attention it gets isn't warranted unless you are bad at stats.

Edit: and to bring this back on topic, Portland is also relatively safe based on the stats.

The stats are worthless because a lot of these Dem-led cities have stopped reporting various types of crime.

Don't make the mistake of believing what they tell you.

Trust your eyes and word-of-mouth from people you believe.

Chicago is a hell hole, just like most large urban areas in the US controlled by Dems. They pass laws like in CA to decriminalize theft under $1,000. There's poop on the streets. Needles on the sidewalk.

Come on man... it's right there in front of you.

I've had this happen to me in San Antonio. An illegal plowed into me and my family head-on while stopped at a stop light. Dude had to be drunk or on something. The accident totaled my car and caused multiple injuries and broken bones. It took me a great effort to get a copy of the police report after getting the run-around treatment and there was nothing on the police report but errors and omissions. No arrests, no consequences, nothing to show up on the statistics.
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Old McDonald said:

coolerguy12 said:

Can you provide a list of topics that Trump is underwater on?

for starters, on each of these his approval is in the 30s and disapproval in the 50s-60s:

inflation & cost of living
overall economy
tariffs & trade
transparency (epstein records)

Come on now. You really have to do better than that.
inflation & cost of living - inflation currently is trivial compared to the Biden years
overall economy - stock market at an all-time high
trade and tariffs - trillions and trillions of $$$ of new manufacturing investments in the US because of tariffs
transparency- Tulsi has released boatloads of documents: JFK assassination records, Russiagate records,
MLK assassination records. And you know darn well that its Democrat judges who are refusing to release the real Epstein records.
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shiftyandquick said:

titan said:

Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.

That doesn't appear to be what brought the Center left over when you look at their remarks. It was the degenerate agenda, open borders, and the clear bent toward statist authoritarianism for all the MSM's pointing at Trump. Businesses saw what was coming and the extent of federal control. In other words, all the anti-Americanism of the Bidenites.

The irony is if the Dems had just ditched the Bidenite/Schumer double-down they could pull a Bill Clinton. But they are reinforcing the Marxist message with the ones the MSM is propping up like Crockett.



Because I oppose Trump doesn't mean I liked or supported Biden.

Posting history begs to differ.
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shiftyandquick said:

titan said:

Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.

That doesn't appear to be what brought the Center left over when you look at their remarks. It was the degenerate agenda, open borders, and the clear bent toward statist authoritarianism for all the MSM's pointing at Trump. Businesses saw what was coming and the extent of federal control. In other words, all the anti-Americanism of the Bidenites.

The irony is if the Dems had just ditched the Bidenite/Schumer double-down they could pull a Bill Clinton. But they are reinforcing the Marxist message with the ones the MSM is propping up like Crockett.



Because I oppose Trump doesn't mean I liked or supported Biden.

No, how vote speaks to that.
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shiftyandquick said:

Trump saying he may invoke the Insurrection Act because of the Portland situation.

I knew this was always the plan. If not right here, right now, then very soon.

Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/06/trump-insurrection-act-national-guard-00595241


The insanity of thinking it's ok to attack federal officers is next level stupid. You can't be serious…. I mean, I know from your posting history you are serious.

Are you just flat out ignoring the idiocy of your party. The pure stupidity of your party. I mean, the Chicago mayor literally just said the President wants a rematch of the civil war, but he is ignoring the fact the dems were the party of slavery. Of kkk. Of Jim Crow. Of segregation. And I can go on.

Are you also ignoring the speeches from Obama and both Clinton's and even biden back in the day that had the exact same talking points about illegal immigration and the fact that we can't pay for their medical expenses. As well as that illegal immigration has to be stopped. The hypocrisy of the left is flat out insane. The ignorance of the left is insane. The ability to completely ignore context by you and your fellow libs is beyond insane.
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shiftyandquick said:

titan said:

Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.

That doesn't appear to be what brought the Center left over when you look at their remarks. It was the degenerate agenda, open borders, and the clear bent toward statist authoritarianism for all the MSM's pointing at Trump. Businesses saw what was coming and the extent of federal control. In other words, all the anti-Americanism of the Bidenites.

The irony is if the Dems had just ditched the Bidenite/Schumer double-down they could pull a Bill Clinton. But they are reinforcing the Marxist message with the ones the MSM is propping up like Crockett.



Because I oppose Trump doesn't mean I liked or supported Biden.


But you are anything but "center" or "conservative". You 100% support the left with every single post you make over the past year. I've yet to see you support a single piece of conservative policy with any critique on the left. You ever pimped far left wacko Talarico in the Texas senate race against a traditional squishy Republican in Cornyn.
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shiftyandquick said:

Trump saying he may invoke the Insurrection Act because of the Portland situation.

I knew this was always the plan. If not right here, right now, then very soon.

Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/06/trump-insurrection-act-national-guard-00595241


Well, progressive groups are actively engaging in insurrection in parts of the United States
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samurai_science said:

shiftyandquick said:

Trump saying he may invoke the Insurrection Act because of the Portland situation.

I knew this was always the plan. If not right here, right now, then very soon.

Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/06/trump-insurrection-act-national-guard-00595241


Well, progressive groups are actively engaging in insurrection in parts of the United States

I would not be surprised at all if we have a declaration of martial law before the Fall 2026 elections. This is what he is trying to build towards. Mark it!
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shiftyandquick said:

Trump saying he may invoke the Insurrection Act because of the Portland situation.

I knew this was always the plan. If not right here, right now, then very soon.

Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/06/trump-insurrection-act-national-guard-00595241

Please don't let us stop you for taking part in your insurrectiony activities. Please go have fun.
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shiftyandquick said:

titan said:

Old McDonald said:

Teslag said:

Old McDonald said:

what you have to keep in mind OP is that this is the behavior of a fundamentally weak administration. they're underwater on just about every issue, know that their window to live out their power fantasy is limited, and are overcompensating by making hollow shows of force/projections of strength to mask their incompetence.


Is that why you keep losing elections?

trump won on the economy and is now underwater on it. the silly strongman theatrics are a poor attempt at distraction from this.

That doesn't appear to be what brought the Center left over when you look at their remarks. It was the degenerate agenda, open borders, and the clear bent toward statist authoritarianism for all the MSM's pointing at Trump. Businesses saw what was coming and the extent of federal control. In other words, all the anti-Americanism of the Bidenites.

The irony is if the Dems had just ditched the Bidenite/Schumer double-down they could pull a Bill Clinton. But they are reinforcing the Marxist message with the ones the MSM is propping up like Crockett.



Because I oppose Trump doesn't mean I liked or supported Biden.


You're beyond help, dude. Absolutely pathetic.
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shiftyandquick said:

samurai_science said:

shiftyandquick said:

Trump saying he may invoke the Insurrection Act because of the Portland situation.

I knew this was always the plan. If not right here, right now, then very soon.

Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/06/trump-insurrection-act-national-guard-00595241


Well, progressive groups are actively engaging in insurrection in parts of the United States

I would not be surprised at all if we have a declaration of martial law before the Fall 2026 elections. This is what he is trying to build towards. Mark it!


You do realize the only reason that could even possibly be true is because of the actions of the brainwashed idiots that vote with you, don't you?
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shiftyandquick said:

samurai_science said:

shiftyandquick said:

Trump saying he may invoke the Insurrection Act because of the Portland situation.

I knew this was always the plan. If not right here, right now, then very soon.

Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/06/trump-insurrection-act-national-guard-00595241


Well, progressive groups are actively engaging in insurrection in parts of the United States

I would not be surprised at all if we have a declaration of martial law before the Fall 2026 elections. This is what he is trying to build towards. Mark it!

Perhaps if you and your ilk would STOP BREAKING THE DAMN LAW you wouldn't have to worry about that. Your side is actively trying and succeeding, in some cases, to kill conservatives and LEO.
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shiftyandquick said:

samurai_science said:

shiftyandquick said:

Trump saying he may invoke the Insurrection Act because of the Portland situation.

I knew this was always the plan. If not right here, right now, then very soon.

Gather the generals, warn them of the "enemy from within" - I predicted this too. This exact phrase.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/06/trump-insurrection-act-national-guard-00595241


Well, progressive groups are actively engaging in insurrection in parts of the United States

I would not be surprised at all if we have a declaration of martial law before the Fall 2026 elections. This is what he is trying to build towards. Mark it!


https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3496883/replies/68883326

Well you also predicted Allred would beat Cruz before he went on to almost by double digits.
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oldag941 said:

And I went to the Notre Dame game and stayed in Chicago. It was awesome. Clean, no homeless, no cops on corners. Went from downtown to Wrigleyville and bar hopped in between. I understand South Chicago is a different area, much like parts of Dallas in San Antonio and other major cities. But downtown Chicago was very impressive.

Here you go. You missed the local news..

https://heyjackass.com/
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91AggieLawyer said:

It is ironic (no, its stupid) that for all the angst given the J6 events by the left, when there actually IS some form of an uprising, taking measures to stop it is seen as anything but proper.

For those that disagree (impossible in my view given the FACTS, but...), please give me a specific example of what would constitute an actual uprising (use your own term if you don't like that one) that would mandate federal and/or National Guard deployment?


Pretty sure that mobs endangering federal immigration agents with violent actions comes pretty close. Their only job is to enforce immigration law that Biden let go.
 
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