Bari Weiss reportedly 'stunned' '60 Minutes' crew

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KerrAg76
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KerrAg76 said:

Liars kicking and screaming as they get called out

My immediate response stands and proven true.
Malibu
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Well, given the Streisand effect of the story, I watched the segment. It raised some important questions, regardless of the CBS independence / liberal bias.

Claims made in the segment with my opinions in bold:
1. We were assured that prisoners sent to CECOT were the worst of the worst. It turns out, several prisoners were migrants with no criminal history (apart from illegally entering the country). If we are going to send human beings to other countries to be incarcerated, and we are reasonably certain we are sending them to hell on Earth, the punishment needs to be proportionate to the crime. Being illegally in the country is not sufficient enough to torture someone for the rest of their life in a 3rd world prison. We got it wrong here, and that isn't ok.
2. CECOT tortures and physically and sexually abuses (accusations of guards using batons to sodomize) criminals. This is just wrong and evil. Prison can be bad enough without beating and sexually assaulting people, I don't care how guilty they are. The US should support human dignity for all people, even criminals. This doesn't require a soft approach, just literally don't beat and sexually assault people as part of your prison policy.
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AG
She's factually challenged.
captkirk
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AG
Malibu said:

Well, given the Streisand effect of the story, I watched the segment. It raised some important questions, regardless of the CBS independence / liberal bias.

Claims made in the segment with my opinions in bold:
1. We were assured that prisoners sent to CECOT were the worst of the worst. It turns out, several prisoners were migrants with no criminal history (apart from illegally entering the country). If we are going to send human beings to other countries to be incarcerated, and we are reasonably certain we are sending them to hell on Earth, the punishment needs to be proportionate to the crime. Being illegally in the country is not sufficient enough to torture someone for the rest of their life in a 3rd world prison. We got it wrong here, and that isn't ok.
2. CECOT tortures and physically and sexually abuses (accusations of guards using batons to sodomize) criminals. This is just wrong and evil. Prison can be bad enough without beating and sexually assaulting people, I don't care how guilty they are. The US should support human dignity for all people, even criminals. This doesn't require a soft approach, just literally don't beat and sexually assault people as part of your prison policy.


If only the White House response had been included in the piece, we all might be better informed of the facts
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I hate "according to people familiar…", so take with a grain of salt.

If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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AJ02 said:

I wish for every left leaning editorial put out, the same outfit is forced to put out a counterpart right leaning editorial.

I took journalism classes. It was drilled into us about making sure to use terms that were completely neutral to avoid adding any sort of bias to what we were saying.

1. Start the story with current events, not what happened in the past.
2. Make sure your word choices are completely neutral and convey no bias.
3. Keep your headline short, limited to x number of characters max.

Granted, it's been 25+ years since I've take journalism, but I do remember those key points. And 99% of all stories put out today by BOTH sides may be "true", but word choice is intentionally chosen in a biased manner.

For example, saw a headline recently that was something to the effect of "Man Dies from Material Found in 95% of all Home Kitchens".

Then you read the article....it was a lifelong quarry worker who inhaled mining dust over several decades and eventually developed a lung disease. So while headline isn't technically "false", it was obviously framed in a way to get people to freak out about something in their kitchen that's slowly killing them and their family.
The last newscast I would call news, was on OAN. It was a news cast, no bias adjectives, just facts, no conjecture/assumptions, no editorials . Boring and dry but actually quite satisfying.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
 
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