[US intends to strike targets] in Venezuela

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GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


The boat/drugs were still a viable target. They weren't specifically targeting the people. They were trying to sink the boat.
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flown-the-coop said:

YouBet said:

Never has there been a more non-story than this one.

It's incredible, frankly.

As other posters went over above, this was most certainly meant to correlate with the WaPo story to create a narrative.

But the story turns out fake and then there was the shooting of the NG soldiers in DC, so they are regrouping.

I expect at least 1 or 2 more attempts to revive this story before they are prepared to move on.

Reminding which party's policies more endangers the country here rather than being preoccupied with foreign enemies and yes, that probably took alot of starch out of the attempted ginned up `cycle.'
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GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.
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YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.

It really is stupid. I served in the military years ago in a law enforcement role, and standard training was once you decided to use deadly force... "shoot twice at center mass." The second round was a deliberate follow up in case the first one missed.

Much ado about nothing. Just libs that would rather coddle drug smugglers and hand out free needles. Or kill babies. They have no moral standing on this issue.
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will25u said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


The boat/drugs were still a viable target. They weren't specifically targeting the people. They were trying to sink the boat.


Bull****
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YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.
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army01 said:

will25u said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


The boat/drugs were still a viable target. They weren't specifically targeting the people. They were trying to sink the boat.

Bull****

I agree that his post was inaccurate, but I also fully support killing narco terrorists on the open seas who are attempting to transport their poison to this country.

Just like I support the CIA or DOW taking out Islamic terrorists overseas who are plotting harm against us.

If you're within the country or territories of the US, you're entitled to a whole different level of legal protection to guard against abuse, as it should be. But those safeguards stop outside our borders, as it should be.

Don't want to be on the business end of the CIA or DOW? Then don't engage in activities that appear to threaten us.
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army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


Again, WGAS. Why do you care?? If we didn't kill them the first time, then it's good they made sure with a second strike.

Just completely unfathomable some of yall want to die on this hill.

"Oh, we missed with the first one? Well, ****, let them through and into the US, boys. We only get one shot and we missed so that means they are off limits now. T&Ps to the American lives they will ruin but we should have aimed better the first time. Oh well."
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army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


Aerial
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YouBet said:

army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


Again, WGAS. Why do you care?? If we didn't kill them the first time, then it's good they made sure with a second strike.

Just completely unfathomable some of yall want to die on this hill.

"Oh, we missed with the first one? Well, ****, let them through and into the US, boys. We only get one shot and we missed so that means they are off limits now. T&Ps to the American lives they will ruin but we should have aimed better the first time. Oh well."


They were 1000 miles away from the US on a small boat with a small range.


BTW, I can't believe there are people here trying to defend this. It was literally the "illegal order" example
In the code. Hegseth was caught red handed. He's already setting up a career officer to take the fall. It's pathetic.
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blacksox said:

They were 1000 miles away from the US on a small boat with a small range.


BTW, I can't believe there are people here trying to defend this. It was literally the "illegal order" example
In the code. Hegseth was caught red handed. He's already setting up a career officer to take the fall. It's pathetic.

And I don't trust you, the media, or other liberals to determine who's a threat to us. Your team has failed miserably on that account broadly. Hands down.

I trust our elected leaders to identify and eliminate threats to our country. Narco terrorists are in that category. I don't care if they needed a third shot -- or tenth shot -- to get the job done and eliminate the thugs trying to transport poison into our country.

All good. Do it again.
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army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


WGAS? Shoot em 12 times if that's what it takes.

You haven't explained why you support terrorists.

No libs cared when chairman BO drone struck US citizens and civilians abroad.


ULTRA MAGA
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blacksox said:

YouBet said:

army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


Again, WGAS. Why do you care?? If we didn't kill them the first time, then it's good they made sure with a second strike.

Just completely unfathomable some of yall want to die on this hill.

"Oh, we missed with the first one? Well, ****, let them through and into the US, boys. We only get one shot and we missed so that means they are off limits now. T&Ps to the American lives they will ruin but we should have aimed better the first time. Oh well."


They were 1000 miles away from the US on a small boat with a small range.


BTW, I can't believe there are people here trying to defend this. It was literally the "illegal order" example
In the code. Hegseth was caught red handed. He's already setting up a career officer to take the fall. It's pathetic.


Don't care. Make sure they are dead so they can't try again.

Quit appeasing people who are trying to ruin our lives. I do not understand why you are pro-narco terrorist.

Keep hitting them.
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No need to "try" defending this.

Even considering how much leftists love baby killing and similar things Malthusian in scope, defense of the nation rises above concern for the well-being of TdA and their drug running operations.

Some of you appear to need a shoulder to cry on.

Where is Abrego Garcia when the bedwetting left need their hero?

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The left is defending people that kill Americans for money. That should tell you all you need to know about their sick ideology.
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blacksox said:


They were 1000 miles away from the US on a small boat with a small range.


"Were"....operative word.

Now? They gone!
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TRX said:

army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


WGAS? Shoot em 12 times if that's what it takes.

You haven't explained why you support terrorists.

No libs cared when chairman BO drone struck US citizens and civilians abroad.




I don't support terrorists. I do support that our military has rules of engagement on how you conduct missions. Hegseth does not operate this way. He is so incredibly war hungry and underqualified for the position he holds. Listen to him try and explain things afterwards. He sounds like a child lying when they are caught by their parents.
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I voted for Trump, but he always surrounds himself with such inexperienced people. I don't understand it. It's always a clown show.
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Ok. I hope we kill thousands more. I hope we have to open new missile factories to kill terrorists before they get here. I voted for this.
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Hegseth brings in JAG, admin lawyers, other advisors and highly experienced admirals and generals including Bradley who is well-experienced in this area (per reports). Watches the strike live, heads to other pressing matters then gets briefed by Bradley later.

WaPo makes up hit piece article to support the illegal orders psyop by former military and intel officials. NYT fact checks the article calling it false. Trump, Hegseth and others provide additional information, clarifying statements and multiple follow-ups and answers all questions on it.

And the conclusion is Hegseth is inexperienced, in over his head, back on the whiskey, kill'em all tyrant.

Fantastic analysis by some.
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army01 said:

TRX said:

army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


WGAS? Shoot em 12 times if that's what it takes.

You haven't explained why you support terrorists.

No libs cared when chairman BO drone struck US citizens and civilians abroad.




I don't support terrorists. I do support that our military has rules of engagement on how you conduct missions. Hegseth does not operate this way. He is so incredibly war hungry and underqualified for the position he holds. Listen to him try and explain things afterwards. He sounds like a child lying when they are caught by their parents.


The last time we heard about ROE was when Obama enabled ISIS and couldn't/didn't stop them.

When Trump got in office, he eased up the ROE and then suddenly ISIS got annihilated.

Give me ROE under Trump.
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TAMUallen said:

army01 said:

YouBet said:

GMaster0 said:

All of this stinks to high heaven. Why would a second strike even be ordered if they didn't see any survivors?

Fog of liquor I guess…


WGAS. They killed people trying to kill us. Again, the military doesn't just shoot once every time they engage someone. Sometimes (gasp!) they shoot twice!

Why are some of yall so torn up about this?

Your reactions are illogical.


This isn't a case of a double tap. It is two different arial strikes.


Aerial

Yet another argument for a preview feature before posting. That's a case of the word is clear enough doubt it was misspelled initially. You could catch and correct so much, or add in a word you somehow omitted (do that often, aggravating) with a preview feature. Also, "edited" looks bad. Like you had to change something.
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When my daughter shot her first deer she "wounded" it first shot, 2nd shot was true. No crying there
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I was hoping for an areola shot of the top of the mountain but that was nipped when the inverted summit was noted.

Using the edit function should never be seen as covering something up. I often type fast and without my glasses only to come back later and get a good laugh from terrible misspellings and poor word usage.

If you need a preview, just take 30 seconds before hitting post to reread your post.

I used to leave critical emails in the draft folder for a while then reread before sending, so I get the concept.
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flown-the-coop said:

I was hoping for an areola shot of the top of the mountain but that was nipped when the inverted summit was noted.

Using the edit function should never be seen as covering something up. I often type fast and without my glasses only to come back later and get a good laugh from terrible misspellings and poor word usage.

If you need a preview, just take 30 seconds before hitting post to reread your post.

I used to leave critical emails in the draft folder for a while then reread before sending, so I get the concept.

Brilliance.
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austinAG90 said:

When my daughter shot her first deer she "wounded" it first shot, 2nd shot was true. No crying there

On land with rules and regs you both followed. Excellent work.

I did too, blood smear and all. Again, by the rules and we culled a spike for my first deer.

Hegseth is out of his league. These strikes aren't protecting anyone. If Venezuelan narcoterrorists are "ruining your life" I honest to god want a thread detailing the hobby, addiction, line of work, etc that has you involved with these folks. Incredible stuff.
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ETFan said:

austinAG90 said:

When my daughter shot her first deer she "wounded" it first shot, 2nd shot was true. No crying there

On land with rules and regs you both followed. Excellent work.

I did too, blood smear and all. Again, by the rules and we culled a spike for my first deer.

Hegseth is out of his league. These strikes aren't protecting anyone. If Venezuelan narcoterrorists are "ruining your life" I honest to god want a thread detailing the hobby, addiction, line of work, etc that has you involved with these folks. Incredible stuff.

Each boat saves 25,000 American lives.

Hegseth is in a league of his own, far superior to other SecDefs / SecWar.

BTW - Trump is commander-in-chief not ETFan. Want a different policy, one that coddles narco-terrorist from a corrupt, cruel communist country who is partnered with our top enemy China... then run for the top office and make policy changes.

Until then, your opinion that the strikes protect no one is ill-informed and factually untrue.
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ETFan said:

austinAG90 said:

When my daughter shot her first deer she "wounded" it first shot, 2nd shot was true. No crying there

On land with rules and regs you both followed. Excellent work.

I did too, blood smear and all. Again, by the rules and we culled a spike for my first deer.

Hegseth is out of his league. These strikes aren't protecting anyone. If Venezuelan narcoterrorists are "ruining your life" I honest to god want a thread detailing the hobby, addiction, line of work, etc that has you involved with these folks. Incredible stuff.

Do you ever stop and question these leftist talking points? Does anything anti-Trump admin not pass the sniff test for you? You really think the left isn't full of **** from time to time? Leftist talking points spin every topic to make Trump and the right look bad. Maybe, just maybe, sometimes they're wrong? The left is literally taking the side of narcoterrorists and that doesn't ring a bell for you? Not every thing that any administration does is bad.

If Trump cured cancer tomorrow, do you have any doubt that the left wouldn't try to spin it as a bad thing?

Narco terrorist are recklessly killing Americans for profit and creating an incredibly cruel and violent black market in the process. The possibility of a hellfire missle dropping on your head discourages the smuggling of drugs for profit while Americans die and destroy their lives and the lives of their families.

Nobody here is claiming that these terrorist are ruining their lives, but the illegal drug trade is ruining the lives of many Americans. I attended my best friend's 40 year old brother's fentanyl overdose funeral just two months ago. His parents were absolutely devastated.

The pain drug smugglers cause is real, not to mention their side business of running guns to central/south America for gang wars and to terrorize locals. The human trafficking into the US is also run by the same folks. Time to quit wasting our resources in the middle east and eastern Europe and take our fight to the narco terrorists that are killing Americans and have turned Mexico (possibly other latin American countries as well) into a failed narco state.

You should question the motivations of people that oppose going after drug cartels.
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flown-the-coop said:

ETFan said:

austinAG90 said:

When my daughter shot her first deer she "wounded" it first shot, 2nd shot was true. No crying there

On land with rules and regs you both followed. Excellent work.

I did too, blood smear and all. Again, by the rules and we culled a spike for my first deer.

Hegseth is out of his league. These strikes aren't protecting anyone. If Venezuelan narcoterrorists are "ruining your life" I honest to god want a thread detailing the hobby, addiction, line of work, etc that has you involved with these folks. Incredible stuff.

Each boat saves 25,000 American lives.

Hegseth is in a league of his own, far superior to other SecDefs / SecWar.


BTW - Trump is commander-in-chief not ETFan. Want a different policy, one that coddles narco-terrorist from a corrupt, cruel communist country who is partnered with our top enemy China... then run for the top office and make policy changes.

Until then, your opinion that the strikes protect no one is ill-informed and factually untrue.

This is an Ai or psychological experiment lol.

Yeah ok, what a great argument.


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aggieforester05 said:

ETFan said:

austinAG90 said:

When my daughter shot her first deer she "wounded" it first shot, 2nd shot was true. No crying there

On land with rules and regs you both followed. Excellent work.

I did too, blood smear and all. Again, by the rules and we culled a spike for my first deer.

Hegseth is out of his league. These strikes aren't protecting anyone. If Venezuelan narcoterrorists are "ruining your life" I honest to god want a thread detailing the hobby, addiction, line of work, etc that has you involved with these folks. Incredible stuff.

Do you ever stop and question these leftist talking points? Does anything anti-Trump admin not pass the sniff test for you? You really think the left isn't full of **** from time to time? Leftist talking points spin every topic to make Trump and the right look bad. Maybe, just maybe, sometimes they're wrong? The left is literally taking the side of narcoterrorists and that doesn't ring a bell for you? Not every thing that any administration does is bad.

If Trump cured cancer tomorrow, do you have any doubt that the left wouldn't try to spin it as a bad thing?

Narco terrorist are recklessly killing Americans for profit and creating an incredibly cruel and violent black market in the process. The possibility of a hellfire missle dropping on your head discourages the smuggling of drugs for profit while Americans die and destroy their lives and the lives of their families.

Nobody here is claiming that these terrorist are ruining their lives, but the illegal drug trade is ruining the lives of many Americans. I attended my best friend's 40 year old brother's fentanyl overdose funeral just two months ago. His parents were absolutely devastated.

The pain drug smugglers cause is real, not to mention their side business of running guns to central/south America for gang wars and to terrorize locals. The human trafficking into the US is also run by the same folks. Time to quit wasting our resources in the middle east and eastern Europe and take our fight to the narco terrorists that are killing Americans and have turned Mexico (possibly other latin American countries as well) into a failed narco state.

You should question the motivations of people that oppose going after drug cartels.

We're not talking about the left.

No one is taking the side of narcoterrorists. I think you're being dishonest.

I don't care how they'd spin it? I'd have my own opinion, that'd be a miracle and he'd finally deserve a Nobel.

Where is this happening on American soil? Have we attempted to capture these people here, where the killing is happening?

Pretty sure they did in a few posts.

Cool, I buried my dad before he turned 50, from Fentanyl overdose. Yeah, I understand the drug issues.

There are plenty of legit ways to tackle these folks, the argument being had is "this way aint it."


Responded to bold in order.
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captkirk said:



Never been much doubt Biden - or more precisely his shadow government was traitor. This would be nice to learn some details of it and confirmation. Especially of names other than Biden's.
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Defending drug smugglers over lives of our American youth is what feels like AI or psyops.

You do you. I do America First.
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I'm sorry about your Dad. That sucks. The rest of what you posted is meaningless tripe.

We are talking about the left because those are the people crying over narcoterrorists getting killed. Democrats are also the ones that are open border advocates who want all illegals here to flood the country as voters. This is a known and historical fact so your side crying over this is logical from your twisted, far left wing POV.

So, first step was for Trump to shut down the border which he did.

What we are doing now is in line with our new strategic direction of pivoting back towards the Western Hemisphere. It's Monroe Doctrine 2.0 which is now stated policy and I'm glad for it. We are stretched thin abroad while ignoring our own back yard for decades now. It's time to rebalance our priorities and that means policing our sovereignty and threats to that more diligently especially now that we have a WMD level drug in the mix that is funded by China who is using the cartels as their delivery vector. This isn't plain ol cocaine or MJ anymore.
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ETFan said:

We're not talking about the left.

No one is taking the side of narcoterrorists. I think you're being dishonest.

You take the side of ANYONE who opposes Trump. The entire left does.

Take a step back. Think about the behaviors you have been defending.
 
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