shiftyandquick said:

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"Don't call us fascists we believe in the Constitution."

Then plots to subvert the Constitution openly to seize power forever.

"We're just joking."

Which is it?

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Waiting on Trump to shut down the elections in a couple of weeks like you predicted. And early voting has already started.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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"Don't call us fascists we believe in the Constitution."

Then plots to subvert the Constitution openly to seize power forever.

"We're just joking."

Which is it?

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Waiting on Trump to shut down the elections in a couple of weeks like you predicted. And early voting has already started.

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I didn't realize that mid-terms were this year. I thought they were next year. I stand corrected, thanks.

If Trump was ever going to suspend elections he would have done so in 2020. Period. Nothing more to ever discuss about Trump suspending elections.

Just applying basic rational and reasonable thinking gets you to that answer. It takes crazy hour imagination to come up with a plausible scenario of Trump suspending elections.,

flown-the-coop said:

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If Trump was ever going to suspend elections he would have done so in 2020. Period. Nothing more to ever discuss about Trump suspending elections.

Just applying basic rational and reasonable thinking gets you to that answer. It takes crazy hour imagination to come up with a plausible scenario of Trump suspending elections.,

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No I don't think he will just stop elections (although he might in certain instances).

Russia has elections. Putin is elected.

Hungary has elections.

Orban is elected.

That's the model. Seize all the levers of power and have the appearance of a democracy, but it is gutted out and empty.

So yes, he doesn't aim to declare himself king and stop all elections. he just plans to seize all power all the time, and will work to subvert a fair election process.

Stupe said:

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He can't and he needs to stop with this garbage.

His comments about Canada are why a conservative PM wasn't elected.
Him acting like this is why we were stuck with Biden for four years.

The POTUS shouldn't be trolling anyone. He should be acting like a leader.


I voted for him all three times and that is getting very old.

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Looks like you may get a fourth time?

And what steps has he taken in nearly 5 years as POTUS to enact this grand scheme?

Deport illegals? Require ID for voting?

Has he ignored court orders?

Exactly what has he done that would lead you to such poor conclusions and comparisons?

He has slim, impossibly slim, majorities in the house and senate. If you objectively look at SCOTUS, it's 5-4 AGAINST Trump.

So again, how are you arriving at your conclusions?

flown-the-coop said:

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And what steps has he taken in nearly 5 years as POTUS to enact this grand scheme?

Deport illegals? Require ID for voting?

Has he ignored court orders?

Exactly what has he done that would lead you to such poor conclusions and comparisons?

He has slim, impossibly slim, majorities in the house and senate. If you objectively look at SCOTUS, it's 5-4 AGAINST Trump.

So again, how are you arriving at your conclusions?

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Don't feed the trolls. It's just media fueled TDS.

shiftyandquick said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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If Trump was ever going to suspend elections he would have done so in 2020. Period. Nothing more to ever discuss about Trump suspending elections.

Just applying basic rational and reasonable thinking gets you to that answer. It takes crazy hour imagination to come up with a plausible scenario of Trump suspending elections.,

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No I don't think he will just stop elections (although he might in certain instances).

Russia has elections. Putin is elected.

Hungary has elections.

Orban is elected.

That's the model. Seize all the levers of power and have the appearance of a democracy, but it is gutted out and empty.

So yes, he doesn't aim to declare himself king and stop all elections. he just plans to seize all power all the time, and will work to subvert a fair election process.

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Maybe a break from this forum and/or twitter is appropriate. I am moderately concerned about your well-being. Only moderately though, since a change in your username to something like TinAndFoil might help us all to save time reading your posts.

The guy literally opposed a peaceful transfer of power in the 2020 elections after losing his ass in court. The MAGA faithful know something horrible awaits us next and they're only pretending to be surprised when it comes. The gutless rank and file GOP are the last line of defense at this point. Ted Cruz, come on down!

Are some of our posters aspiring fiction novelists using F16 to hone their storylines? Because Tom Clancy y'all are not.

flown-the-coop said:

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And what steps has he taken in nearly 5 years as POTUS to enact this grand scheme?

Deport illegals? Require ID for voting?

Has he ignored court orders?

Exactly what has he done that would lead you to such poor conclusions and comparisons?

He has slim, impossibly slim, majorities in the house and senate. If you objectively look at SCOTUS, it's 5-4 AGAINST Trump.

So again, how are you arriving at your conclusions?

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Trump tried in 2020 and if it weren't for Mike Pence "choosing the constitution over Trump" (his words), Trump would have successfully prevented the peaceful transfer of power.

Now what is different?

• He's able to deploy ICE troops loyal to him in every Democratic city to harass citizens (potentially on election day)
• Last month, the NYT reported that the DOJ was exploring ways it could bring criminal charges against election officials related to their management of election systems. he has Vance who has shown he will do whatever he's ordered.
• And it's worth remembering that just weeks after the 2020 election, Trump sought to have his attorney general, the Department of Defense, and DHS seize voting equipment. At the time staff refused to cooperate, but he's installed more loyalists in every branch. Attempts to seize equipment could be accompanied by demands not to certify election results. Trump infamously pressured election officials in Georgia and Michigan to aid his efforts to reject election results that he did not like in 2020. Since then, more than 30 rogue local officials in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Utah, and Virginia have refused to certify election results, citing a lack of trust in their voting equipment.

agent-maroon said:

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Are some of our posters aspiring fiction novelists using F16 to hone their storylines? Because Tom Clancy y'all are not.

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Tom Clancy was at least based in reality. Many of these guys seemed to have jumped the shark into pravda -esque levels of delusionment.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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And what steps has he taken in nearly 5 years as POTUS to enact this grand scheme?

Deport illegals? Require ID for voting?

Has he ignored court orders?

Exactly what has he done that would lead you to such poor conclusions and comparisons?

He has slim, impossibly slim, majorities in the house and senate. If you objectively look at SCOTUS, it's 5-4 AGAINST Trump.

So again, how are you arriving at your conclusions?

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Trump tried in 2020 and if it weren't for Mike Pence "choosing the constitution over Trump" (his words), Trump would have successfully prevented the peaceful transfer of power.

Now what is different?

• He's able to deploy ICE troops loyal to him in every Democratic city to harass citizens (potentially on election day)
• Last month, the NYT reported that the DOJ was exploring ways it could bring criminal charges against election officials related to their management of election systems. he has Vance who has shown he will do whatever he's ordered.
• And it's worth remembering that just weeks after the 2020 election, Trump sought to have his attorney general, the Department of Defense, and DHS seize voting equipment. At the time staff refused to cooperate, but he's installed more loyalists in every branch. Attempts to seize equipment could be accompanied by demands not to certify election results. Trump infamously pressured election officials in Georgia and Michigan to aid his efforts to reject election results that he did not like in 2020. Since then, more than 30 rogue local officials in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Utah, and Virginia have refused to certify election results, citing a lack of trust in their voting equipment.

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Yeah it's unfortunate the Dems got away with stealing the 2020 election.

On the other hand, the Lord granted Trump a wonderful opportunity to learn and plan and hit the ground running in 2024. He's done a good job getting the right people in place and dismantling the corrupt Democrat machine in Washington and killing socialist slush funds like USAID.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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And what steps has he taken in nearly 5 years as POTUS to enact this grand scheme?

Deport illegals? Require ID for voting?

Has he ignored court orders?

Exactly what has he done that would lead you to such poor conclusions and comparisons?

He has slim, impossibly slim, majorities in the house and senate. If you objectively look at SCOTUS, it's 5-4 AGAINST Trump.

So again, how are you arriving at your conclusions?

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Trump tried in 2020 and if it weren't for Mike Pence "choosing the constitution over Trump" (his words), Trump would have successfully prevented the peaceful transfer of power.

Now what is different?

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He's able to deploy ICE troops loyal to him in every Democratic city to harass citizens (potentially on election day)

I have seen the left do this. Particularly back in the civil rights era. But I have yet to see Trump do this.

Last month, the NYT reported that the DOJ was exploring ways it could bring criminal charges against election officials related to their management of election systems. he has Vance who has shown he will do whatever he's ordered.

You probably should not reference the fictional rag New York Times. And are you meaning that Trump should not look into whether there is criminal manipulation of our elections? Why should be not look into this?

And it's worth remembering that just weeks after the 2020 election, Trump sought to have his attorney general, the Department of Defense, and DHS seize voting equipment. At the time staff refused to cooperate, but he's installed more loyalists in every branch. Attempts to seize equipment could be accompanied by demands not to certify election results. Trump infamously pressured election officials in Georgia and Michigan to aid his efforts to reject election results that he did not like in 2020. Since then, more than 30 rogue local officials in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Utah, and Virginia have refused to certify election results, citing a lack of trust in their voting equipment.

aggiehawg has done monumental research on the issues with the voting systems culminating in clear and convincing evidence of nefarious activity and issues / vulnerabilities with the various voting systems. And boy you must be scraping the bottom of Reddit points if you bring up pressuring officials in Georgia. Probably the most laughably debunked attack from the 2020 election fraud.

Stupe said:

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He can't and he needs to stop with this garbage.

His comments about Canada are why a conservative PM wasn't elected.
Him acting like this is why we were stuck with Biden for four years.

The POTUS shouldn't be trolling anyone. He should be acting like a leader.


I voted for him all three times and that is getting very old.

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So he should just sit there and be quiet while he gets called every name in the book by Congressional democrats and every idiotic talking head on CNN, MSNBC, and the like? He has gotten called Hitler, a fascist, a Nazi, and has had Hollywood losers and other lunatics (including Tim Walz) wishing for his death. And you expect him to just sit there and not mess with these people back? Come on. If he was wishing the same fate on these people and using the terms they call him, then you'd have a point.

"Mr. President, do you think you could run for a third term?"

"No."

Now, how hard was that? (FWIW, I don't think he wants to run for a third term, or that he thinks he could. It's more the uber crazies like Bannon that are pushing this, and those types of people should be put onto an island where they can share their crazy thoughts amongst themselves.)

David_Puddy said:

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Stupe said:

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He can't and he needs to stop with this garbage.

His comments about Canada are why a conservative PM wasn't elected.
Him acting like this is why we were stuck with Biden for four years.

The POTUS shouldn't be trolling anyone. He should be acting like a leader.


I voted for him all three times and that is getting very old.

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So he should just sit there and be quiet while he gets called every name in the book by Congressional democrats and every idiotic talking head on CNN, MSNBC, and the like?

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What about when his current VP, former military advisors, or cabinet members do it?

CDUB98 said:

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All this 3rd term **** needs to stop.

Does it drive the progressives bonkers? Yes.

Is it useful other than that? No.

It's just a dumb charade to keep propping up.

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It also turns off independents, moderate Republicans, RINOs, etc.

murphyag said:

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CDUB98 said:

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All this 3rd term **** needs to stop.

Does it drive the progressives bonkers? Yes.

Is it useful other than that? No.

It's just a dumb charade to keep propping up.

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It also turns off independents, moderate Republicans, RINOs, etc.

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I don't think he is worried about them voting for him again. And it didn't seem to turn them off too bad in 2024.

flown-the-coop said:

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murphyag said:

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CDUB98 said:

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All this 3rd term **** needs to stop.

Does it drive the progressives bonkers? Yes.

Is it useful other than that? No.

It's just a dumb charade to keep propping up.

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It also turns off independents, moderate Republicans, RINOs, etc.

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I don't think he is worried about them voting for him again. And it didn't seem to turn them off too bad in 2024.

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Most likely they thought the second term would be like the first term. It has turned out quite different than they expected.

My comment above is just based on what I've heard from the Independents, moderate Republicans, and RINOs from church, neighborhood, and at work.

The voting machines he is getting rid of can be manipulated. He is trying to make our country safer by rounding up criminals illegal aliens, gang members. Democrats just want illegals as potential voters. They do not care about anyone but themselves and power. You are being ridiculous implying Trump wants to stop voting. We want voting to be fair by citizens who are alive. Dems want illegals and dead people to vote.

Whoop2 said:

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The voting machines he is getting rid of can be manipulated. He is trying to make our country safer by rounding up criminals illegal aliens, gang members. Democrats just want illegals as potential voters. They do not care about anyone but themselves and power. You are being ridiculous implying Trump wants to stop voting. We want voting to be fair by citizens who are alive. Dems want illegals and dead people to vote.

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A Trump supporter bought the Dominion voting machine company. Should help Trump feel more secure about the voting machines.

murphyag said:

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Whoop2 said:

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The voting machines he is getting rid of can be manipulated. He is trying to make our country safer by rounding up criminals illegal aliens, gang members. Democrats just want illegals as potential voters. They do not care about anyone but themselves and power. You are being ridiculous implying Trump wants to stop voting. We want voting to be fair by citizens who are alive. Dems want illegals and dead people to vote.

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A Trump supporter bought the Dominion voting machine company. Should help Trump feel more secure about the voting machines.

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And reveal the fraud once and for all. The machines themselves are not great for that without the source code.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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And what steps has he taken in nearly 5 years as POTUS to enact this grand scheme?

Deport illegals? Require ID for voting?

Has he ignored court orders?

Exactly what has he done that would lead you to such poor conclusions and comparisons?

He has slim, impossibly slim, majorities in the house and senate. If you objectively look at SCOTUS, it's 5-4 AGAINST Trump.

So again, how are you arriving at your conclusions?

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Trump tried in 2020 and if it weren't for Mike Pence "choosing the constitution over Trump" (his words), Trump would have successfully prevented the peaceful transfer of power.

Now what is different?

• He's able to deploy ICE troops loyal to him in every Democratic city to harass citizens (potentially on election day)
• Last month, the NYT reported that the DOJ was exploring ways it could bring criminal charges against election officials related to their management of election systems. he has Vance who has shown he will do whatever he's ordered.
• And it's worth remembering that just weeks after the 2020 election, Trump sought to have his attorney general, the Department of Defense, and DHS seize voting equipment. At the time staff refused to cooperate, but he's installed more loyalists in every branch. Attempts to seize equipment could be accompanied by demands not to certify election results. Trump infamously pressured election officials in Georgia and Michigan to aid his efforts to reject election results that he did not like in 2020. Since then, more than 30 rogue local officials in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Utah, and Virginia have refused to certify election results, citing a lack of trust in their voting equipment.

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He was fighting for the will of the American people. Your comrades got away with it in 2020, but got their ass handed to them in 2024 because the GOP put proper guardrails in place.

Dan Carlin said:

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The guy literally opposed a peaceful transfer of power in the 2020 elections after losing his ass in court. The MAGA faithful know something horrible awaits us next and they're only pretending to be surprised when it comes. The gutless rank and file GOP are the last line of defense at this point. Ted Cruz, come on down!

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I'll bet you or any of your comrades 1,000 dollars he doesn't run in 2028.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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And what steps has he taken in nearly 5 years as POTUS to enact this grand scheme?

Deport illegals? Require ID for voting?

Has he ignored court orders?

Exactly what has he done that would lead you to such poor conclusions and comparisons?

He has slim, impossibly slim, majorities in the house and senate. If you objectively look at SCOTUS, it's 5-4 AGAINST Trump.

So again, how are you arriving at your conclusions?

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Trump tried in 2020 and if it weren't for Mike Pence "choosing the constitution over Trump" (his words), Trump would have successfully prevented the peaceful transfer of power.

Now what is different?

• He's able to deploy ICE troops loyal to him in every Democratic city to harass citizens (potentially on election day)
• Last month, the NYT reported that the DOJ was exploring ways it could bring criminal charges against election officials related to their management of election systems. he has Vance who has shown he will do whatever he's ordered.
• And it's worth remembering that just weeks after the 2020 election, Trump sought to have his attorney general, the Department of Defense, and DHS seize voting equipment. At the time staff refused to cooperate, but he's installed more loyalists in every branch. Attempts to seize equipment could be accompanied by demands not to certify election results. Trump infamously pressured election officials in Georgia and Michigan to aid his efforts to reject election results that he did not like in 2020. Since then, more than 30 rogue local officials in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Utah, and Virginia have refused to certify election results, citing a lack of trust in their voting equipment.

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Yes, Trump could have potentially prevented, at least temporarily, a transfer of power, but the truth is that the election was very likely illegitimate, and certainly needed a massive investigation, although the processes were too poorly visible, and mostly intentionally, not auditable.

2020 was decided by mail in ballots and insecure election processes that are protected by the Democratic party. We do not have secure elections now and certainly didn't have them in 2020. Once Covid was used as a cover for mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, drop box stuffing, mass ballot mailings and other fraud, a fair election was not possible. Protesting that fraud, instead of being lauded, was considered criminal with unprecedented and incredibly unjust prosecutions. It was just a preview of things to come under "democratic socialist" rule, which will not last long before an utter collapse of the country.

The truth also is that the massive effort to import illegal aliens at an incredible rate, and at tax payers expense, was designed to forever change America in many ways in order to promote left wing progressive socialist policies. Anyone who is resisting the effort to reverse the damage is telling us exactly what they want - an end to America as it has been and a rebirth into socialism/communism, which will no doubt eventually lead to America's utter destruction.

Deploying ICE to harass citizens? Enforcing the law concerning illegal aliens is harassing citizens? Going after criminals as well? Only left wing cult members are brainwashed to this extent. It is deranged and psychotic.

Trump keeps telling everyone that he's not running in 2028 and everyone knows that he can't without some severe manipulation, but it doesn't matter. Whoever does run will be the next Trump/Hitler/Fascist/Totalitarian to the left, so what difference does it make?

Hullabaloonatic said:

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David_Puddy said:

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Stupe said:

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He can't and he needs to stop with this garbage.

His comments about Canada are why a conservative PM wasn't elected.
Him acting like this is why we were stuck with Biden for four years.

The POTUS shouldn't be trolling anyone. He should be acting like a leader.


I voted for him all three times and that is getting very old.

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So he should just sit there and be quiet while he gets called every name in the book by Congressional democrats and every idiotic talking head on CNN, MSNBC, and the like?

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What about when his current VP, former military advisors, or cabinet members do it?

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Oh look, another liberal lunatic trying to argue "whataboutism" again. Never saw that coming. The former military advisors with an axe to grind since they got fired because they suck? Yeah, when your party continues to wish death upon their political opponents, you can spare me with any whataboutism crap.

Your party keeps wishing for the complete failure of America simply because of their hatred of Donald Trump. Really pathetic to root against your own country because anything good that Trump does for the country causes your left wing radical party to lose more approval points, which are already at historic lows. Really healthy and should prove to be a great strategy going forward there bub.

David_Puddy said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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David_Puddy said:

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Stupe said:

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He can't and he needs to stop with this garbage.

His comments about Canada are why a conservative PM wasn't elected.
Him acting like this is why we were stuck with Biden for four years.

The POTUS shouldn't be trolling anyone. He should be acting like a leader.


I voted for him all three times and that is getting very old.

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So he should just sit there and be quiet while he gets called every name in the book by Congressional democrats and every idiotic talking head on CNN, MSNBC, and the like?

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What about when his current VP, former military advisors, or cabinet members do it?

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Oh look, another liberal lunatic trying to argue "whataboutism" again. Never saw that coming. The former military advisors with an axe to grind since they got fired because they suck? Yeah, when your party continues to wish death upon their political opponents, you can spare me with any whataboutism crap.

Your party keeps wishing for the complete failure of America simply because of their hatred of Donald Trump. Really pathetic to root against your own country because anything good that Trump does for the country causes your left wing radical party to lose more approval points, which are already at historic lows. Really healthy and should prove to be a great strategy going forward there bub.

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The democrats are a cult right now. Everything Trump does is bad. Every cult needs its boogeyman.

Remember, Obama will be back as well...

He's just sitting around jobless for many years, and irritable as Michelle is nearby so he wants an escape.

the way pretty much everything goes with trump is:

1. trump would never do that, he's just trolling, he has nothin to do with it, you're being hysterical
2. he's doing it and the libs are triggered therefore it's great

3rd term is currently on step 1, and he's given us no reason to think he wouldn't try it

Old McDonald said:

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the way pretty much everything goes with trump is:

1. trump would never do that, he's just trolling, he has nothin to do with it, you're being hysterical
2. he's doing it and the libs are triggered therefore it's great

3rd term is currently on step 1, and he's given us no reason to think he wouldn't try it

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Glad you support a third term. It will be even more epic than the 2nd.

agreed, obama term 3 would fix the country and pave the way for a glorious golden age under obama terms 4-10

Old McDonald said:

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agreed, obama term 3 would fix the country and pave the way for a glorious golden age under obama terms 4-10

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Obama would not make it out of a D primary these days. Quit kidding yourself. Nearly 10 years after he left office and every initiative of his is an unmitigated disaster.

He lost his voice when he endorsed Kamala.

Trump knows how to push the right buttons.