Alberta Separatist Referendum

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Kozmozag
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Canada should be a u.s. territory.
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A whole page on an Agricultural and Mechanical message board and only a single comment about including Saskatchewan on this trade?
will25u
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aggiehawg
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Even if they can secede by vote, becoming a US state is another matter, altogether.
K2-HMFIC
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aggiehawg said:

Even if they can secede by vote, becoming a US state is another matter, altogether.



If this happens under Trumps watch…there is only one answer.
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K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

Even if they can secede by vote, becoming a US state is another matter, altogether.



If this happens under Trumps watch…there is only one answer.

Confused. What do you mean is the "one answer"?
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I think Trump pivots on the additional states rhetoric. I think it opens up too much discussion on DC, Puerto Rico, etc statehood.

Maybe setup some long term treaty / agreement to recognize and trade with them without taking them on as a "dependent".

Just scattershootin. He's definitely legacy building so no telling what he does or attempts.
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flown-the-coop said:

I think Trump pivots on the additional states rhetoric. I think it opens up too much discussion on DC, Puerto Rico, etc statehood.

Maybe setup some long term treaty / agreement to recognize and trade with them without taking them on as a "dependent".

Just scattershootin. He's definitely legacy building so no telling what he does or attempts.

You mean as a territory? Hmm. Just to think that through.
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Or maybe just a protectorate. Like Cuba was in the first few decades of 1900's.

Territory implies US sovereign land which gets trickier.

I agree with your earlier take that statehood is a pretty big reach.
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aggiehawg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

Even if they can secede by vote, becoming a US state is another matter, altogether.



If this happens under Trumps watch…there is only one answer.

Confused. What do you mean is the "one answer"?



If Alberta asks to become a state, he's going to do it, there's no reality where he doesn't.

This is the guy who's jonesing for an island where the people actively don't want him.
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If not a state than maybe a Compact of Free Association like we have with the Marshall Islands.
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K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

Even if they can secede by vote, becoming a US state is another matter, altogether.



If this happens under Trumps watch…there is only one answer.

Confused. What do you mean is the "one answer"?



If Alberta asks to become a state, he's going to do it, there's no reality where he doesn't.

This is the guy who's jonesing for an island where the people actively don't want him.

Uhmm. Not the way that works. So think it through.Still c hwo you got there? Confused
K2-HMFIC
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aggiehawg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

Even if they can secede by vote, becoming a US state is another matter, altogether.



If this happens under Trumps watch…there is only one answer.

Confused. What do you mean is the "one answer"?



If Alberta asks to become a state, he's going to do it, there's no reality where he doesn't.

This is the guy who's jonesing for an island where the people actively don't want him.

Uhmm. Not the way that works. So think it through.Still c hwo you got there? Confused



Alright…maybe let's start with establishing assumptions;

Do you believe that Trump would want Alberta as a state?
Ag with kids
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K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

aggiehawg said:

Even if they can secede by vote, becoming a US state is another matter, altogether.



If this happens under Trumps watch…there is only one answer.

Confused. What do you mean is the "one answer"?



If Alberta asks to become a state, he's going to do it, there's no reality where he doesn't.

This is the guy who's jonesing for an island where the people actively don't want him.

What does that have to do with a province that would have presumably voted to join the US?
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Ferg said:

If not a state than maybe a Compact of Free Association like we have with the Marshall Islands.


And Micronesia and Palau
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As one of the leading experts on f16 for all things Trump, I think Trump is actually agnostic on whether Alberta becomes a state. And once the consequences and process have been explained, he likely will be less than favorable on it.

But what he wants is somewhat irrelevant as the process requires the people of Alberta to want it, they then need to draft a constitution and otherwise prepare themselves, then its the proverbial act of Congress to admit a new state.

Even for a protectorate, that likely involves a treaty, POTUS and the "advice and consent of the Senate".

Tl;dr doesn't matter what Trump wants individually, though I think he really does not have a strong preference on Alberta statehood.
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Alberta and PR. 52 states, balance kept, more or less. Takes a threat of unbalancing the senate off the table. Yeah, not likely to ever happen but interesting to think aboot.
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What is the actual likelihood this passes?
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