No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Pssssttttttt.......there isn't a single place in this world where the people that reside there now have always resided there. Every square inch of this earth has been populated and repopulated multiple times over.

Those "others" that you speak of that called it their own land already? Yeah, they didn't just simply walk into a barren landscape - they conquered others, pushed them out, inter-procreated with them, etc. And the people before them did the same. And the people before them and the people before them. Go back however far you think you can go back, then go back more. It's always the same.

It is "our land" because our forefathers were better at fighting than the indians were and they won the battles and wars and conquered them. You don't have to like it, but that is the cycle of human existence going back to the Neanderthals and Denisovians and whatever race of humanoids came before them.

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Much clearer, thanks.

So when whites eventually do get replaced, like has happened throughout history, to the new victors who do the replacing, this will now be their own land, like the cycle of history always shows to happen.

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Yes. In that sense, perfectly natural. But a political faction that deliberately accelerates it and runs the present down needs to be done away with and that transition moment slowed, Arthurian style.

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No Spin Ag said:

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schmellba99 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Pssssttttttt.......there isn't a single place in this world where the people that reside there now have always resided there. Every square inch of this earth has been populated and repopulated multiple times over.

Those "others" that you speak of that called it their own land already? Yeah, they didn't just simply walk into a barren landscape - they conquered others, pushed them out, inter-procreated with them, etc. And the people before them did the same. And the people before them and the people before them. Go back however far you think you can go back, then go back more. It's always the same.

It is "our land" because our forefathers were better at fighting than the indians were and they won the battles and wars and conquered them. You don't have to like it, but that is the cycle of human existence going back to the Neanderthals and Denisovians and whatever race of humanoids came before them.

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Much clearer, thanks.

So when whites eventually do get replaced, like has happened throughout history, to the new victors who do the replacing, this will now be their own land, like the cycle of history always shows to happen.

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Yes. In that sense, perfectly natural. But a political faction that deliberately accelerates it and runs the present down needs to be done away with and that transition moment slowed, Arthurian style.

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It shouldn't be surprising seeing as how everything for the past century, or more, had moved at a faster pace than the previous generations.

Technology, which can be argued has helped accelerate things, can be a blessing and curse at the same time, it just depends on which side of it we are.

The wonders of Women's Liberation has them bent over a keyboard, getting ravished by the money-making-machine instead of at home raising children.

Good for them, they've earned their day in the cubicle of eternal sadness.

No Spin Ag said:

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schmellba99 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Pssssttttttt.......there isn't a single place in this world where the people that reside there now have always resided there. Every square inch of this earth has been populated and repopulated multiple times over.

Those "others" that you speak of that called it their own land already? Yeah, they didn't just simply walk into a barren landscape - they conquered others, pushed them out, inter-procreated with them, etc. And the people before them did the same. And the people before them and the people before them. Go back however far you think you can go back, then go back more. It's always the same.

It is "our land" because our forefathers were better at fighting than the indians were and they won the battles and wars and conquered them. You don't have to like it, but that is the cycle of human existence going back to the Neanderthals and Denisovians and whatever race of humanoids came before them.

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Much clearer, thanks.

So when whites eventually do get replaced, like has happened throughout history, to the new victors who do the replacing, this will now be their own land, like the cycle of history always shows to happen.

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I would like us to at least fight it out and see who wins rather than be bred out of existence. I honestly like our chances.

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YouBet said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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The wonders of Women's Liberation has them bent over a keyboard, getting ravished by the money-making-machine instead of at home raising children.

Good for them, they've earned their day in the cubicle of eternal sadness.

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This is what is crazy to me. IMO, it is extraordinarily rare for a person to truly do what they love for a living. A lot of people actually hate their jobs. But most see it as a necessary means to an end. Something you tolerate. Can't have much of a life, or provide for children, without it.

My dad would routinely come home beat down from his job and commute. I am thankful I only have to go in two days a week, but my job is still a grind, that I only endure out of sheer necessity. But modern women have almost been conned into thinking devoting your life to your career is some sort of key to happiness and fulfillment. That they have been blocked out from this opportunity for "enjoyment" and "fulfillment" until now.

I truly feel sorry for many women who have fallen for this. It's one of the greatest most widescale cons every pulled off in the history of humankind, imo. You are very very lucky if you actually enjoy your job...and in a pretty small minority.

We think things like depression are wreaking havoc on women now, just wait another 10-20 years . These "career women" are fighting thousand of years of human evolution and conditioning. Good luck with that.

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No Spin Ag said:

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YouBet said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

Is there anything to be said about children of the 80s and 90s being constantly warned about teen pregnancy? How disruptive pregnancy is and how it would make life so very difficult. Also the repeated mantra of "Graduate H.S., go to College, get a job, make money, buy a house, have a family." That was the roadmap that was consistently touted. Perhaps many in this generation got stuck on the "make money" step, never quite feeling like they could financially support children until much later in life than previous gens?

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Is there anything to be said about children of the 80s and 90s being constantly warned about teen pregnancy? How disruptive pregnancy is and how it would make life so very difficult. Also the repeated mantra of "Graduate H.S., go to College, get a job, make money, buy a house, have a family." That was the roadmap that was consistently touted. Perhaps many in this generation got stuck on the "make money" step, never quite feeling like they could financially support children until much later in life than previous gens?

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I don't know if this was the intention or not, but it's like the string pullers figured out a way to make long term or permanent debt slaves out of both men and women. And TONS of women are going massively into debt for useless degrees that basically don't pay.

Gigantic scam, and i do wonder if there should be some sort of regulations. 18 year olds simply do not know what they are doing. Most of us were absolute idiots at that age.

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My cousin has a daughter who is early 20s.
She has 3 top ranked universities on her resume. I mean really top top. She is now at Harvard Med School.

I have never met her but I wonder about her future. She has among the best resumes I have seen but will she ever find a husband? Will she have to go downmarket for that (and not have any respect for him and maybe treat him shabbily)? Or will she remain single and claim men are scared of her? There aren't too many men with her kind of qualifications and her ceiling is high. Scary.

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Is she hot?

Because I'm sure she can find a guy here on TexAgs...

I mean, if she's REALLY hot, I'd find a place for her to sit.

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Well, she's my niece...

If she is one of those typical women who is hypergamous, I don't think any A&M man will work out unless he wants to be a house-husband and constantly called Mr {girl's last name}.

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Quite honestly, losing the Western Culture we knew for so long is going to be well-earned and well-deserved.

The Western culture turned its back on God, went away from marriage/family, became very career-oriented, which is another way of saying materialistic and selfish, then opened the door to Pandora's box by allowing all things deviantly sexual to be pervasive.

We deserve everything that will happen. We ran up debt for stupidity and greed, as well as power. We lowered education standards and entertainment standards to the LCD. Propaganda is "news".

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Nothing to do with God.

It is due to greed and stupidity. Plain and simple. And lack of common sense and foresight.
It is because of me me and more me. Not us.
Most people care only about themselves, not their kids of future grandkids. Most other cultures do.

It's funny when some here claim to have a superior culture, that their IQ is higher than some Asian people, etc. What good will that do when Muslims impose Shariah on us??

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I really feel sorry for you and how you view the world. You are possibly the most jaded and angry person on this site, and that includes a lot of very angry people.

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I think I am the most realistic person on this site. Many live in their own world of 1950s America while foreigners are chomping on their lunch.

And I have been proven correct so many times. It is up to you whether you want to heed the warnings or not.

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My cousin has a daughter who is early 20s.
She has 3 top ranked universities on her resume. I mean really top top. She is now at Harvard Med School.

I have never met her but I wonder about her future. She has among the best resumes I have seen but will she ever find a husband? Will she have to go downmarket for that (and not have any respect for him and maybe treat him shabbily)? Or will she remain single and claim men are scared of her? There aren't too many men with her kind of qualifications and her ceiling is high. Scary.

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Is she hot? Because that is all a man cares about. If she is hot enough a high value man will be willing to breed her.

The real problem is will hypergamy allow her to find an acceptable mate to her?

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It's not about what what a man cares about, in this case it is what she cares about. Even if she was the hottest woman in the world, she will want the most successful man in the world. From her academic profile, I don't know many who can beat that. Her dad is pretty average and I grew up with him and he is a few years older than I am and I could do math of his grade when he could not. Maybe his wife is the super smart one the daughter got her genes from.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

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If they want to be as successful they would have to replicate it. Hispanic culture is inferior to white culture and has been subordinate to it for a millenia.

They will not be able to replicate the things either because they are not as creative or smart as whites. Again we are talking populations and not individuals.

Hispanics would be my second choice though and it is inevitable and preferable to any other alternative.

The Western world has done this to themselves, and the acceptance and glorification of abortion is just one of the ways.

Stranger Things star Maya Hawke says she wouldn’t exist if her parents hadn’t aborted her sibling. Horrific. Women don’t need to end their babies’ lives in order to pursue their dreams. pic.twitter.com/SJW93EMM4G

— Kristan Hawkins (@KristanHawkins) November 29, 2025

But on a lighter note, this family has done their part.

Imagine leaving behind this kind of LEGACY? pic.twitter.com/6PWMHLOKtI

— Declaration of Memes (@LibertyCappy) December 4, 2025

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But on a lighter note, this family has done their part.

Imagine leaving behind this kind of LEGACY? pic.twitter.com/6PWMHLOKtI

— Declaration of Memes (@LibertyCappy) December 4, 2025

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We're close to that.

We've had children in 4 different decades

Pregnant for about 92 months.

keep in mind also, that each pregnancy is typically in 2 different years, unless the child is born in October, November, or December.

They're going to miss us when we're gone.

Good luck keeping the lights on.

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They're going to miss us when we're gone.

Good luck keeping the lights on.

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So true. If we are gone, the best hope is the idea Japan and China bury the hatchet -- together they can take out what would follow and jihad as well.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

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If they want to be as successful they would have to replicate it. Hispanic culture is inferior to white culture and has been subordinate to it for a millenia.

They will not be able to replicate the things either because they are not as creative or smart as whites. Again we are talking populations and not individuals.

Hispanics would be my second choice though and it is inevitable and preferable to any other alternative.

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Took it to mean the third world variety and Islamists was what was following in the concerns ---- if you mean the ones taking place are Hispanics, see no reason they couldn't start to replicate some things. They would have to unlearn some of the habits of governance south of the border, but not sure agree that they couldn't eventually get the hang of everything.

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Human groups have expanded, collapsed, migrated, blended, and reshaped one another for 300,000 years.

There has NEVER been a permanent, isolated 'founding population.'
Every major civilization is the product of waves of migration and mixing.

Europe itself?
Celts Romans Goths Moors Vikings Slavs Normans Turks
There is no single 'original population.'
There never was.

And here's the key scientific point:

Demographic change does NOT erase people.
It creates new variations of people.

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This poster is 100% correct but what he/she fails to include is that most of this mixing was done violently even into the present.

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1900 - approx 36% of world population was white
present - 8%

Not sure what was in the op, as no real summary. The single stat that tells the fullest story. Good on Trump for his new immigration rules. because it IS about culture not race.

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If it's not about race, why lead with a bolded stat highlighting race, not culture?

This is not good for the world. White people of European descent (while sucking balls like all of humanity) are far less suckier than any other race in history. White Europeans brought us modern Western culture which is the best thing humanity has done (again, an admittedly low bar).

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I'm more worried about Western Civilization collapse.

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They go hand in hand. The US and Western Europe largely have built their cultures around hard work and creativity with the U.S. mixing in a healthy dose of rugged individualism. The entire rest of the world is built around collectivism and naked pursuit of power. The problem in the west is two fold. First, our birth rates aren't sufficient to maintain, never mind continue growing, that cultural mindset. Second, internally we have a significant political movement whose beliefs mirror the entire rest of the world and not the values that made the west the dominant culture on earth.

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Again, the left are the ones destroying European influence in the world. The left destroy everything it touches.

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1900 - approx 36% of world population was white
present - 8%

Not sure what was in the op, as no real summary. The single stat that tells the fullest story. Good on Trump for his new immigration rules. because it IS about culture not race.

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If it's not about race, why lead with a bolded stat highlighting race, not culture?

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How would you have headed the thread? In the sense of what drove much of what we think of as the American way it does correspond closely. Remember the Left academia both officially denies race exists, and at the same time makes it the most important thing. So some of the issue here is a lack of adequate terms and concepts that are accurate to address things.

The thread is doing a decent job of delineating the aspects that are concerned about surviving, and while they don't have 1-to-1 correlation to what people have been calling race, there is something to the concept when talking in terms of large aggregates. It is comparable to the religious aggregate that when Muslims become the majority, what was there starts to be suppressed and sharia imposed and things regress. So aggregates do still tend to have instructive value. Much like many stereotypes have a basis. Both good and bad ones.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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YouBet said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

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If they want to be as successful they would have to replicate it. Hispanic culture is inferior to white culture and has been subordinate to it for a millenia.

They will not be able to replicate the things either because they are not as creative or smart as whites. Again we are talking populations and not individuals.

Hispanics would be my second choice though and it is inevitable and preferable to any other alternative.

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I am curious, how do you judge cultures to be superior or inferior? Just money? Power?
And even within a specific culture, there are superior and inferior people. And culture is so much related to the environment and history. You put people in a land of plenty and they will likely turn out to be "superior" too. You put them in a place where resources are scarce, then they behave badly too.

I am not calling anyone a racist, because maybe you do have a point. Maybe some cultures are better/worse. Science is above everything. Can we use the evidence you present to prove that other cultures are superior too?

5 pages of discussion.

All to say that rich white men were not happy just being rich. They wanted to get ultra rich, so they wanted more slaves. How? By bribing politicians (other rich white men) to open the door to brown and black people from other countries regardless of quality. Moar! Moar! They sold it to everyone as "free markets" or "capitalism" and they bought it as they don't like to think for themselves.
After 50 years of this, people realized they were sold out. But it is too late now. Many immigrants turned out to be rotten who want to take over for their deity.
Yes, white people are screwed but they brought it upon themselves.

End of discussion.

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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YouBet said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

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If they want to be as successful they would have to replicate it. Hispanic culture is inferior to white culture and has been subordinate to it for a millenia.

They will not be able to replicate the things either because they are not as creative or smart as whites. Again we are talking populations and not individuals.

Hispanics would be my second choice though and it is inevitable and preferable to any other alternative.

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I am curious, how do you judge cultures to be superior or inferior? Just money? Power?
And even within a specific culture, there are superior and inferior people. And culture is so much related to the environment and history. You put people in a land of plenty and they will likely turn out to be "superior" too. You put them in a place where resources are scarce, then they behave badly too.

I am not calling anyone a racist, because maybe you do have a point. Maybe some cultures are better/worse. Science is above everything. Can we use the evidence you present to prove that other cultures are superior too?

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infinity ag said:

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5 pages of discussion.

All to say that rich white men were not happy just being rich. They wanted to get ultra rich, so they wanted more slaves. How? By bribing politicians (other rich white men) to open the door to brown and black people from other countries regardless of quality. Moar! Moar! They sold it to everyone as "free markets" or "capitalism" and they bought it as they don't like to think for themselves.
After 50 years of this, people realized they were sold out. But it is too late now. Many immigrants turned out to be rotten who want to take over for their deity.
Yes, white people are screwed but they brought it upon themselves.

End of discussion.

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I regret it have but one star to give this.

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Tom Fox said:

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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YouBet said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

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If they want to be as successful they would have to replicate it. Hispanic culture is inferior to white culture and has been subordinate to it for a millenia.

They will not be able to replicate the things either because they are not as creative or smart as whites. Again we are talking populations and not individuals.

Hispanics would be my second choice though and it is inevitable and preferable to any other alternative.

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I am curious, how do you judge cultures to be superior or inferior? Just money? Power?
And even within a specific culture, there are superior and inferior people. And culture is so much related to the environment and history. You put people in a land of plenty and they will likely turn out to be "superior" too. You put them in a place where resources are scarce, then they behave badly too.

I am not calling anyone a racist, because maybe you do have a point. Maybe some cultures are better/worse. Science is above everything. Can we use the evidence you present to prove that other cultures are superior too?

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That's a good question. But I think your last paragraph has been infirmed by the experience of precisely quantities of other cultures brought into areas of plenty or better. They run it down, rather than learn it. That does suggest something at work. Only a few, like the Japanese, have shown they can just learn if and do similar. But notice how many simply don't. Or there is something in the system that triggers regression -- Turkey the most concerning example at present. Then there is what the board and Internet call `the culchua'. These seem pretty plain things. What is really lacking is more honest analysis of what is up with it all.

titan said:

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infinity ag said:

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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YouBet said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

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Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

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But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

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If they want to be as successful they would have to replicate it. Hispanic culture is inferior to white culture and has been subordinate to it for a millenia.

They will not be able to replicate the things either because they are not as creative or smart as whites. Again we are talking populations and not individuals.

Hispanics would be my second choice though and it is inevitable and preferable to any other alternative.

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I am curious, how do you judge cultures to be superior or inferior? Just money? Power?
And even within a specific culture, there are superior and inferior people. And culture is so much related to the environment and history. You put people in a land of plenty and they will likely turn out to be "superior" too. You put them in a place where resources are scarce, then they behave badly too.

I am not calling anyone a racist, because maybe you do have a point. Maybe some cultures are better/worse. Science is above everything. Can we use the evidence you present to prove that other cultures are superior too?

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That's a good question. But I think your last paragraph has been infirmed by the experience of precisely quantities of other cultures brought into areas of plenty or better. They run it down, rather than learn it. That does suggest something at work. Only a few, like the Japanese, have shown they can just learn if and do similar. But notice how many simply don't. Or there is something in the system that triggers regression -- Turkey the most concerning example at present. Then there is what the board and Internet call `the culchua'. These seem pretty plain things. What is really lacking is more honest analysis of what is up with it all.

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Thanks. That is why I made it a point not to throw "you are a racist!!" in there which kills discussion. Some groups could be better than others, why not? But it seems to me like the real reason is environment. Has that been factored in? Scarcity I believe, plays a very big part. You see how people in America behave, even in white areas, when food becomes scarce in department stores. Remember COVID, when even white people fought in stores for bread? They don't do it now. If you have stores with adequate supplies in black areas, they won't believe badly either.

infinity ag said:

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titan said:

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infinity ag said:

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Tom Fox said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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YouBet said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

---

Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

---

Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

---

You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?

---

Are we talking Spaniards or the heavily Indian ancestry hispanics? If Spaniards, or mostly spaniards they can probably replicated a reasonable facsimile of our culture.

Again we are talking populations, not individuals. Having made that distinction. Outside of Spaniards, hispanics are not capable of replicating what white western europeans and their ancestors have created. It will be inferior.

---

But would they have to replicate it, as opposed to learn from the failures of the whites and adapt to move things forward?

And do you mean Hispanics can't replicate white culture, or the things whites created? And if the latter, why would they be unable to?

---

If they want to be as successful they would have to replicate it. Hispanic culture is inferior to white culture and has been subordinate to it for a millenia.

They will not be able to replicate the things either because they are not as creative or smart as whites. Again we are talking populations and not individuals.

Hispanics would be my second choice though and it is inevitable and preferable to any other alternative.

---

I am curious, how do you judge cultures to be superior or inferior? Just money? Power?
And even within a specific culture, there are superior and inferior people. And culture is so much related to the environment and history. You put people in a land of plenty and they will likely turn out to be "superior" too. You put them in a place where resources are scarce, then they behave badly too.

I am not calling anyone a racist, because maybe you do have a point. Maybe some cultures are better/worse. Science is above everything. Can we use the evidence you present to prove that other cultures are superior too?

---

That's a good question. But I think your last paragraph has been infirmed by the experience of precisely quantities of other cultures brought into areas of plenty or better. They run it down, rather than learn it. That does suggest something at work. Only a few, like the Japanese, have shown they can just learn if and do similar. But notice how many simply don't. Or there is something in the system that triggers regression -- Turkey the most concerning example at present. Then there is what the board and Internet call `the culchua'. These seem pretty plain things. What is really lacking is more honest analysis of what is up with it all.

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Thanks. That is why I made it a point not to throw "you are a racist!!" in there which kills discussion. Some groups could be better than others, why not? But it seems to me like the real reason is environment. Has that been factored in? Scarcity I believe, plays a very big part. You see how people in America behave, even in white areas, when food becomes scarce in department stores. Remember COVID, when even white people fought in stores for bread? They don't do it now. If you have stores with adequate supplies in black areas, they won't believe badly either.

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True. Not only does it kill discussion, but it also pre-supposes a Left worldview that is not identical with fact. That it is always wrong to make such a distinction or analysis. Problem is really never see it defined. You have the confusing thing we were educated that scientifically race doesn't even exist. So its kind of a stupid thing. I much prefer to judge actions and outcomes and like you say, its not always clear how much environment drove that too. But what can be determined a bit more reliably is certain mindsets lead to regression -- a culture that overvalues non-criticism or accents suppressing different points of view - whether for ideological or religious reasons - will be outstripped in innovation by one that does not. Inventions don't happen too much in a culture where `all is already found in the writings, or its laws'. Another negative is a sense of outside entitlement way beyond self-interest --- that doesn't lead to contributing as well. That's a negative culture trait of high degree and proves your point any `race' can embody it.

Another thing is this wild card of IQ. As it is a product of the same Academia that gave much of the present mess above ---- not sure how much put any stock in how it is calculated. Does it overvalue things like regurgitation and memorization? Or being more inclined one way, than another --- like favor those with better hearing than those with better sight? Etc.

Personally think certain conducts and outlooks lead down -- and it is those that need curbing. Remain very unpersuaded a given individual is automatically starting from some other level, unless genuinely defective. Not counting that.

Cultures can be judged only if one believes in absolute truth.

Put another way, how well of a job does the culture do to reward good and punish bad.
Good: Sacrafice, selflessness, perseverance, respect, beauty (physical, arts, music, etc), valuing human life, valuijg the uniquness of life and valuing human relationships.
Bad: selfish, individualism, pride, destroy beauty, and greed.

It can be succinctly described as cultures that recieve and express love with repect. Those that do it better, are better. Typically those that dont use some sort of arbitrary authority (race, skin tone, male/female) to mistreat others.

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Cultures can be judged only if one believes in absolute truth.

Put another way, how well of a job does the culture do to reward good and punish bad.
Good: Sacrafice, selflessness, perseverance, respect, beauty (physical, arts, music, etc), valuing human life, valuijg the uniquness of life and valuing human relationships.
Bad: selfish, individualism, pride, destroy beauty, and greed.

It can be succinctly described as cultures that recieve and express love with repect. Those that do it better, are better. Typically those that dont use some sort of arbitrary authority (race, skin tone, male/female) to mistreat others.

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I agree with your criteria of Good/Bad.

However, I don't find any culture that is good or bad by itself. All have something to do with surroundings and resources. I keep talking about how American culture is based on greed. Rich people who won't experience want in their lives, still lust for more millions and billions. We call it "capitalism" to give it legitimacy. Bribing is called "lobbying". It is easy to be a good person when one's stomach is full.

My basic question is: Is there any such thing as culture A is better than culture B? If so, why? My theory is only resource availability is the predictor.

I also think American culture is declining (becoming inferior) because there is now scarcity of resources (like jobs because sold out our people for a few dollars). There are so many reports of people losing their houses and sleeping in their cars (which they may lose too) and people don't care anymore.

infinity ag said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Cultures can be judged only if one believes in absolute truth.

Put another way, how well of a job does the culture do to reward good and punish bad.
Good: Sacrafice, selflessness, perseverance, respect, beauty (physical, arts, music, etc), valuing human life, valuijg the uniquness of life and valuing human relationships.
Bad: selfish, individualism, pride, destroy beauty, and greed.

It can be succinctly described as cultures that recieve and express love with repect. Those that do it better, are better. Typically those that dont use some sort of arbitrary authority (race, skin tone, male/female) to mistreat others.

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I agree with your criteria of Good/Bad.

However, I don't find any culture that is good or bad by itself. All have something to do with surroundings and resources. I keep talking about how American culture is based on greed. Rich people who won't experience want in their lives, still lust for more millions and billions. We call it "capitalism" to give it legitimacy. Bribing is called "lobbying". It is easy to be a good person when one's stomach is full.

My basic question is: Is there any such thing as culture A is better than culture B? If so, why? My theory is only resource availability is the predictor.

I also think American culture is declining (becoming inferior) because there is now scarcity of resources (like jobs because sold out our people for a few dollars).

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FIFY. The present American government and ruling class including press, yes, not the culture. Self-actualization and individualism and competition is not greed other than in the sense that any seeking to win mates and build legacies are greedy, even in the animal kingdom.

infinity ag said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Cultures can be judged only if one believes in absolute truth.

Put another way, how well of a job does the culture do to reward good and punish bad.
Good: Sacrafice, selflessness, perseverance, respect, beauty (physical, arts, music, etc), valuing human life, valuijg the uniquness of life and valuing human relationships.
Bad: selfish, individualism, pride, destroy beauty, and greed.

It can be succinctly described as cultures that recieve and express love with repect. Those that do it better, are better. Typically those that dont use some sort of arbitrary authority (race, skin tone, male/female) to mistreat others.

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I agree with your criteria of Good/Bad.

However, I don't find any culture that is good or bad by itself. All have something to do with surroundings and resources. I keep talking about how American culture is based on greed. Rich people who won't experience want in their lives, still lust for more millions and billions. We call it "capitalism" to give it legitimacy. Bribing is called "lobbying". It is easy to be a good person when one's stomach is full.

My basic question is: Is there any such thing as culture A is better than culture B? If so, why? My theory is only resource availability is the predictor.

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Yes. I just outlined it. You are in a at best in a very cynical head space. Which is pretty common for a f16 poster.

Obviously culture is fluid and even more then that culture is not monolithic especially in a country of 300+ million with very different family cultural backgrounds. So yes America has flaws, but it culturally still beats every other nation. Now with America there are better spots and worse spots (Minnesota). But at that point you are arguing ik too vague a way to make an effective point. Random details can be weaved to tell many stories but the weaver needs to be masterful to weave the accurate tapestry.