Haha that is a great thought but the 40% that don't pay income tax also don't make any money to speak of. I think you'd need their SS to go to like 20% to work - and be matched at that rate by their employers.

Limiting voter eligibility to net taxpayers would solve a lot of problems.

MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I love the idea of a phase out but your post about a temporary funding mechanism is a necessity

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I think you're getting warmer. I'll fight tooth-and-nail to keep the benefit I'm on the verge of claiming and that I've paid into for 45 years, but I could also gradually warm up to a temporary and flat percentage assessment that is paid by everyone with an income across all generations.

Key words are temporary and flat percentage... no progressive BS. If everybody's gotta help fix it, then everybody pays the same percentage of income in a temporary assessment that expires when the program is stabilized.

I realize you could skip the assessment and cut benefits to arrive at the same place, but for some hard-wired reason that goes against every grain in my body. I suppose it's due to the view that a "deal is a deal"... you don't renege on a commitment (benefits). However, you could supplement it with a new deal that involves an assessment. No one ever said there wouldn't be a new deal.

But you would never, ever, get the Democrats to agree to that. They want to expand SS, not stabilize it or wind it down.

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I could also warm up to that idea but unfortunately I've been around long enough and I'm having a hard time remembering the last time a new temporary tax was actually temporary.

That's a huge risk for sure.

I've seen some toll roads that were supposed to be temporary that did in fact sunset after a defined time period, and I've seen others that continue forever because politicians see a pot of money that they can redirect for other things. They think they can get away with a bait and switch, and they always succeed.

BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

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Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

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We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

Rattler12 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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s did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

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That is not accurate and is another cop-out the younger folks like to try and pin on the boomers. That debt escalation you see from 2008 to now was authorized by legislative leaders elected by everybody of voting age from then to now, spanning across many generations, from boomers all the way to GenZ.

If the voters had held the politicians accountable to a balanced budget, then that would have been the outcome. But it wasn't a priority for any voting generation. Everybody likes their specific thing in spending bills, whether it's more free stuff or more tax cuts.

There's been no mass movement in any generation to dial back the spending. And that falls on ALL the generations that have voted over that time.

I might be willing to compromise and forego some of the SS benefits that I have accrued.

I just need to know one thing first: Can you tell me how long I am going to live?

BonfireNerd04 said:

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Limiting voter eligibility to net taxpayers would solve a lot of problems.

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Net income tax payers? Or net taxpayers.

Because I think that likely 90% of Americans are net taxpayers, if you include all taxes as a payment and all entitlements as a refund.

Rattler12 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

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Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

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We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

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How did they come to power?

I'm not blaming you, Rattler. But, your generation kinda financially screwed the next generation royally. It's not helpful to pretend that isn't what happened. It's not really helpful to get on TexAgs and whine about Boomers, either, admittedly.

The best an individual can do is vote against Leviathan.

BusterAg said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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Limiting voter eligibility to net taxpayers would solve a lot of problems.

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Net income tax payers? Or net taxpayers.

Because I think that likely 90% of Americans are net taxpayers, if you include all taxes as a payment and all entitlements as a refund.

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Net federal income tax payers.

Tom Fox said:

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BusterAg said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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Limiting voter eligibility to net taxpayers would solve a lot of problems.

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Net income tax payers? Or net taxpayers.

Because I think that likely 90% of Americans are net taxpayers, if you include all taxes as a payment and all entitlements as a refund.

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Net federal income tax payers.

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If you are a spouse and you home is your job and you file jointly, should the non wage earner get to vote?

Science Denier said:

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Tom Fox said:

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BusterAg said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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Limiting voter eligibility to net taxpayers would solve a lot of problems.

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Net income tax payers? Or net taxpayers.

Because I think that likely 90% of Americans are net taxpayers, if you include all taxes as a payment and all entitlements as a refund.

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Net federal income tax payers.

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If you are a spouse and you home is your job and you file jointly, should the non wage earner get to vote?

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Married couples can be treated as one unit for tax-benefit calculations. And then either both are eligible, or neither.

It's probably a moot point until the 24th amendment is repealed.

Science Denier said:

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Tom Fox said:

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BusterAg said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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Limiting voter eligibility to net taxpayers would solve a lot of problems.

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Net income tax payers? Or net taxpayers.

Because I think that likely 90% of Americans are net taxpayers, if you include all taxes as a payment and all entitlements as a refund.

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Net federal income tax payers.

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If you are a spouse and you home is your job and you file jointly, should the non wage earner get to vote?

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I think both should be able to vote but I'm not married to that position.

BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

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Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

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We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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If Gen X started voting in 1985, then why is all the wrath against boomers when Gen X has 20 years of government involvement by the time this graph begins?

By the way, SS was going to be bankrupt around 1995 and many other times.

When I was in high school and college a more than a few years ago, I also didn't expect it would still be around when I retired.

In the 1980's several politicians proposed phasing out SS into some sort of retirement investment plan. It would have been great for us late boomers who would have had a much better return on the investments than what we would get from SS. Such proposals quickly died however because AARP, socialist politicians, and other big money lobbyists would pull out the "you're trying to take food away from grandma" argument.

The arguments against SS and the fact that it is a tax used to pay for a poor retirement program has been used for many generations, including children of those who passed the program.

Most agree that it is a bad program and has always been a bad program, but over the past 75+ years, no politician has had the courage to make the major changes that are necessary to fix/end it.

BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

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Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

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We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

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How did they come to power?

I'm not blaming you, Rattler. But, your generation kinda financially screwed the next generation royally. It's not helpful to pretend that isn't what happened. It's not really helpful to get on TexAgs and whine about Boomers, either, admittedly.

The best an individual can do is vote against Leviathan.

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So the Boomer vote outnumbers all the other generations combined? Seems like a solid, smart, fiscally responsible voting block could cancel all us selfish old farts out. Isn't that how the country is supposed to work?

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People who don't want to lose their SS aren't greedy or unpatriotic. People who are willing to cash their check without any concern for the future of the country are greedy and unpatriotic.

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No doubt you contribute extra just to "do what's right" for the next generation.

No doubt you're capable of contributing to the discussion without an ad hominem argument (and one that's been beaten to death besides).

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

---

Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

---

We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

---

The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

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How did they come to power?

I'm not blaming you, Rattler. But, your generation kinda financially screwed the next generation royally. It's not helpful to pretend that isn't what happened. It's not really helpful to get on TexAgs and whine about Boomers, either, admittedly.

The best an individual can do is vote against Leviathan.

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So the Boomer vote outnumbers all the other generations combined? Seems like a solid, smart, fiscally responsible voting block could cancel all us selfish old farts out. Isn't that how the country is supposed to work?

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Boomers are 20% of the US population.

But 38% of the House of Representatives, 56% of the Supreme Court, 61% of the Senate, and controlled the Presidency for 29 of the last 33 years (the exception being Biden, who's too old to be a Boomer).

BonfireNerd04 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

---

Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

---

We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

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How did they come to power?

I'm not blaming you, Rattler. But, your generation kinda financially screwed the next generation royally. It's not helpful to pretend that isn't what happened. It's not really helpful to get on TexAgs and whine about Boomers, either, admittedly.

The best an individual can do is vote against Leviathan.

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So the Boomer vote outnumbers all the other generations combined? Seems like a solid, smart, fiscally responsible voting block could cancel all us selfish old farts out. Isn't that how the country is supposed to work?

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Boomers are 20% of the US population.

But 38% of the House of Representatives, 56% of the Supreme Court, 61% of the Senate, and controlled the Presidency for 29 of the last 33 years (the exception being Biden, who's too old to be a Boomer).

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Apples meet oranges. What % of the US population is not old enough to be eligible for those positions or eligible to vote for those posotions?

BuddysBud said:

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If Gen X started voting in 1985, then why is all the wrath against boomers when Gen X has 20 years of government involvement by the time this graph begins?

By the way, SS was going to be bankrupt around 1995 and many other times.

When I was in high school and college a more than a few years ago, I also didn't expect it would still be around when I retired.

In the 1980's several politicians proposed phasing out SS into some sort of retirement investment plan. It would have been great for us late boomers who would have had a much better return on the investments than what we would get from SS. Such proposals quickly died however because AARP, socialist politicians, and other big money lobbyists would pull out the "you're trying to take food away from grandma" argument.

The arguments against SS and the fact that it is a tax used to pay for a poor retirement program has been used for many generations, including children of those who passed the program.

Most agree that it is a bad program and has always been a bad program, but over the past 75+ years, no politician has had the courage to make the major changes that are necessary to fix/end it.

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This GenXer didn't start voting until 1998. So I and my fellow GenXers going back 12 years before me weren't voting by 1985. So if GenX spans 15 years, then only like 15% of them were voting by 1985.

B-1 83 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

---

Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

---

We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

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How did they come to power?

I'm not blaming you, Rattler. But, your generation kinda financially screwed the next generation royally. It's not helpful to pretend that isn't what happened. It's not really helpful to get on TexAgs and whine about Boomers, either, admittedly.

The best an individual can do is vote against Leviathan.

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So the Boomer vote outnumbers all the other generations combined? Seems like a solid, smart, fiscally responsible voting block could cancel all us selfish old farts out. Isn't that how the country is supposed to work?

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Boomers are 20% of the US population.

But 38% of the House of Representatives, 56% of the Supreme Court, 61% of the Senate, and controlled the Presidency for 29 of the last 33 years (the exception being Biden, who's too old to be a Boomer).

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Apples meet oranges. What % of the US population is not old enough to be eligible for those positions or eligible to vote for those posotions?

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• 31% for the House of Representatives (minimum age 25)
• 38% for the Senate (minimum age 30)
• 45% for the Presidency (minimum age 35)
• There's no constitutional minimum age for the Supreme Court. FWIW, the youngest ever appointed was 32.

(Source)

So, if the age of people in our government reflected the people eligible for office, Boomers would be 29% of the House, 32% of the Senate, and 36% of recent Presidents.

With a voting age of 18 for Gen X,
1965 + 18 =1983.

Based upon your formula, Gen X didn't bother to vote for 15 years? Or math is hard.

(Gen X 1965-1980)

BonfireNerd04 said:

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B-1 83 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Rattler12 said:

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Zobel said:

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I'm not trying to steal anything from anyone.

You couldn't engage with actual discussion about the ethics of the situation, so, what - you're just going to ad hom your way through this? Good plan, really persuasive.

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Lol, you haven't tried a serious discussion from the OP all the way to here. And your pitch has been all about stealing, although it's wrapped in guilt-shaming, condescension, and distortion of the facts. It's opened my eyes though to how desperate some of the younger generation is to skip out on their obligations to society -- paying into SS -- that many others before you have done faithfully for 90 years. I say "some" because fortunately there are still a lot of fine people in the younger generations who will do the right thing and work constructively to address the challenges of tomorrow.

---

Oh yeah, how convenient that it's our obligation to pay taxes for the benefits that your already-wealthy generation is receiving, in order to leave an empty husk when it's our turn to retire.

You're Exhibit A for why the Boomers are hated.

---

We've lived in a 3 bdrm, 2 bath house with a carport for 28 years and on a fixed income for the last 13. Where is all this wealth that I am supposed to have? I drive an 8 year old pickup. We and folks just like me are paying property taxes for your kids to get a K-12 education. We don't go out to eat, we don't take expensive vacations. We paid for our parents SS benefits, they paid for their parents. Again where is this mass wealth that all us Boomers have accumulated?

Apparently the worst thing some of us boomers did was raise a bunch of whiny little brats and some of them continued with theirs.

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No.

This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

---

The majority of "us guys" had nothing to do with that. Now a small percentage number of guys of our generation that are/ were running the country are100% the cause of it.

---

How did they come to power?

I'm not blaming you, Rattler. But, your generation kinda financially screwed the next generation royally. It's not helpful to pretend that isn't what happened. It's not really helpful to get on TexAgs and whine about Boomers, either, admittedly.

The best an individual can do is vote against Leviathan.

---

So the Boomer vote outnumbers all the other generations combined? Seems like a solid, smart, fiscally responsible voting block could cancel all us selfish old farts out. Isn't that how the country is supposed to work?

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Boomers are 20% of the US population.

But 38% of the House of Representatives, 56% of the Supreme Court, 61% of the Senate, and controlled the Presidency for 29 of the last 33 years (the exception being Biden, who's too old to be a Boomer).

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Apples meet oranges. What % of the US population is not old enough to be eligible for those positions or eligible to vote for those posotions?

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• 31% for the House of Representatives (minimum age 25)
• 38% for the Senate (minimum age 30)
• 45% for the Presidency (minimum age 35)
• There's no constitutional minimum age for the Supreme Court. FWIW, the youngest ever appointed was 32.

(Source)

So, if the age of people in our government reflected the people eligible for office, Boomers would be 29% of the House, 32% of the Senate, and 36% of recent Presidents.

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The horror……. Now do what % of voters are the dreaded boomers, and you'll find your answer - non-boomers are voting them in.

Incumbents are overwhelmingly reelected regardless of party or office.

What's your point here? That the boomer generation as a political class in this country isn't overrepresented versus the population makeup?

All of your interactions in this thread seem to be arguing about pointless percentages - anything other than the topic.

Zobel said:

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No doubt you're capable of contributing to the discussion without an ad hominem argument (and one that's been beaten to death besides).

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You shouldn't lead with an ad hom then...

BuddysBud said:

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With a voting age of 18 for Gen X,
1965 + 18 =1983.

Based upon your formula, Gen X didn't bother to vote for 15 years? Or math is hard.

(Gen X 1965-1980)

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There were only 2 years of Gen X eligible to vote in 1985.

I'm an early Gen X. I couldn't vote in 1985.

I didn't. Nothing here as against a person.

Zobel said:

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Incumbents are overwhelmingly reelected regardless of party or office.

What's your point here? That the boomer generation as a political class in this country isn't overrepresented versus the population makeup?

All of your interactions in this thread seem to be arguing about pointless percentages - anything other than the topic.

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The point is there are far more non-boomers than boomers out there in the voting population. Your off the rails nonsense against boomers gets tiresome and the numbers show they simply are not the bogeymen you present them to be.

Are you perhaps familiar with the concept of a voting bloc?

Zobel said:

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Are you perhaps familiar with the concept of a voting bloc?

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Ah……..they all vote exactly the same. So much so, the other 70% can't possibly overcome that block, and would never agree on the same thing or sway them.

They were over 40% of the voting population in 2000, dropping to around 30% now. Again. I'm curious. Is your contention that baby boomers werent and aren't a significant voting bloc? That they have no common interests or voting patterns?


Maybe let's try something else. Do you think we have a budget problem in this country?

Zobel said:

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They were over 40% of the voting population in 2000, dropping to around 30% now. Again. I'm curious. Is your contention that baby boomers werent and aren't a significant voting bloc? That they have no common interests or voting patterns?


Maybe let's try something else. Do you think we have a budget problem in this country?

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There are bigger voting blocks, and your contention that somehow boomers are some homogeneous block that determines everything is simply projecting.

I didn't say they were a homogenous bloc. But on the subject of Medicare and SS, they are.

Do you think we have a budget problem?

BuddysBud said:

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With a voting age of 18 for Gen X,
1965 + 18 =1983.

Based upon your formula, Gen X didn't bother to vote for 15 years? Or math is hard.

(Gen X 1965-1980)

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1965 + 18 = 1983
1966 + 18 = 1984
1967 + 18 = 1985
1968 + 18 = 1986 *not voting in 85
1969 + 18 = 1987 *not voting in 85
1970 + 18 = 1988 *not voting in 85
1971 + 18 = 1989 *not voting in 85
1972 + 18 = 1990 *not voting in 85
1973 + 18 = 1991 *not voting in 85
1974 + 18 = 1992 *not voting in 85
1975 + 18 = 1993 *not voting in 85
1976 + 18 = 1994 *not voting in 85
1977 + 18 = 1995 *not voting in 85
1978 + 18 = 1996 *not voting in 85
1979 + 18 = 1997 *not voting in 85
1980 + 18 = 1998 *not voting in 85

So only three out of sixteen of the above birth years were voting in 1985. Or 19%.

AJ02 said:

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BuddysBud said:

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With a voting age of 18 for Gen X,
1965 + 18 =1983.

Based upon your formula, Gen X didn't bother to vote for 15 years? Or math is hard.

(Gen X 1965-1980)

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1965 + 18 = 1983
1966 + 18 = 1984
1967 + 18 = 1985
1968 + 18 = 1986 *not voting in 85
1969 + 18 = 1987 *not voting in 85
1970 + 18 = 1988 *not voting in 85
1971 + 18 = 1989 *not voting in 85
1972 + 18 = 1990 *not voting in 85
1973 + 18 = 1991 *not voting in 85
1974 + 18 = 1992 *not voting in 85
1975 + 18 = 1993 *not voting in 85
1976 + 18 = 1994 *not voting in 85
1977 + 18 = 1995 *not voting in 85
1978 + 18 = 1996 *not voting in 85
1979 + 18 = 1997 *not voting in 85
1980 + 18 = 1998 *not voting in 85

So only three out of sixteen of the above birth years were voting in 1985. Or 19%.

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My point was that in the chart of excessive government spending from BusterAg that started in 2006, Gen X was also voting in big spending government.

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This is the worst thing you guys collectively did:

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Your detailed analysis confirms my point.
Boomers get a lot of blame, but Gen Xers some of who are also nearing retirement age, are just as complicit as Boomers.