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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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Porque' no los dos?

I dont think you got my point. I'm saying onlyfans and other "entertainment " has placated the masses who then vote for morons that allow terrorists into our country to kill us.

I mean what percentage of Americans even vote and of the ones that do, how many even spend an hour educated themselves on who to vote for.

I'm saying if Americans in general weren't wasting hours a day playing with themselves, or playing some fantasy game, maybe they would wake up to what is happening in front of there face and do something about it.

Not saying onlyfans is directly killing people, when clearly Muslims do and or want to.

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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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I imagine he is making more now then when he was at Fox. I don't think he threw away his career, only his prestige.

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ts5641 said:

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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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I imagine he is making more now then when he was at Fox. I don't think he threw away his career, only his prestige.

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It's a hard pill to swallow for many around here, but Tucker is more popular than he has ever been.

His podcast (i admit, I've missed plenty) started out pushing against forced narratives and the establishment and seemed to be pretty good. He'd sprinkle in some cool stories like the "shroud of Torren" expert. Now he seems to just do conspiracy theories and hate on Israel while loving him some Muslims.

"He said he is unaware of a single person in the United States who has been killed by radical Islam over the past 24 years."

Why did he specify 24 years instead of 25 or more, and…

Oh… yeah.

I personally think American lives and limbs lost overseas count, as well.

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ts5641 said:

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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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I imagine he is making more now then when he was at Fox. I don't think he threw away his career, only his prestige.

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It's a hard pill to swallow for many around here, but Tucker is more popular than he has ever been.

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And huge traffic jams on the highway are caused by gawkers fascinated by the injury accident on the other side.

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ts5641 said:

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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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I imagine he is making more now then when he was at Fox. I don't think he threw away his career, only his prestige.

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It's a hard pill to swallow for many around here, but Tucker is more popular than he has ever been.

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And huge traffic jams on the highway are caused by gawkers fascinated by the injury accident on the other side.

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Yes, that is a solid analogy

Exactly.

I don't know a single person who died on 9/11, so it wasn't even a problem that needs to be addressed because it didn't impact anyone I knew.

That's horrible logic.

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Tucker does make a good point though. Onlyfans is actually a much bigger threat to our civilization than "radical Islam".

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I'm going to disagree with you Rob and follow me here:

Only fans addictions and other porn and video game addictions create an apathetic, "entertained", and lazy group. These groups are apathetic to infiltration by Muslims, ms-13 gangs, and el salvadorian demons along with other bad agendas that are pushed. Ipso facto, onlyfans is more dangerous than islamists.

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People need to get back to being entertained at beer joints, swingers parties and pole dancing clubs and give up their evil porn, game and only fans addictions. Praise be.

We are not going to be overrun by jihadists and gangs because a few dolts sit and self pleasure all day long. Follow me here.

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"He said he is unaware of a single person in the United States who has been killed by radical Islam over the past 24 years."

Why did he specify 24 years instead of 25 or more, and…

Oh… yeah.

I personally think American lives and limbs lost overseas count, as well.

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2015 - San Bernardino CA targeting a Christmas Party. The perpetrators, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik one had parents from Pakistan and one immigrated from Pakistan.

2016 - Orland FL Pulse Night Club targeting gays. The perpetrator: Omar Mir Seddique Mateen whose parents came from Afghanistan.

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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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Well, he claimed to be assaulted and scratched in his sleep by a demon - that did not wake the 4 large hunting dogs sleeping in his bed - so both options are possible.

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His podcast (i admit, I've missed plenty) started out pushing against forced narratives and the establishment and seemed to be pretty good. He'd sprinkle in some cool stories like the "shroud of Torren" expert. Now he seems to just do conspiracy theories and hate on Israel while loving him some Muslims.

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This is kinda hard for alot of people to see, but I believe Tucker is a CIA spook. He is also a huge opportunist. The state department wants to shift their war machine away from the Middle East and toward China. Also, there is currently a huge market for "anti-Israel" rhetoric in the public square. Tucker is taking advantage of that.

That's a weak strawman.

I'm not saying any porn or other previous versions of cultural decay are good and onlyfans is bad. I'm saying only fans is another form of making the masses ignorant, amoral or immoral and lazy.

Do you think the 1700s version of an American would let in these Muslims in and allow the threat to our country and our culture? If not, why?

Because they were active in there communities, generally moral, God fearing people (however flawed) and well educated.

Our masses are not. Why?
Because they waste their time in amoral and immoral things and live in complaceny and apathy.

Onlyfans and other things are massive contributors to that cultural decay.

I dont know what is so hard to understand about this logic.

If you want to defend our cultural flaws and shortcomings make a point and not a strawman. I'm trying to look at how we could allow these things to happen to our country and I see the cultural problems.


Furthermore, I think the average American would be shocked how many people are addicted to porn and how many hours a day are being spent on video games and fantasy online environments. I don't for a second believe it's a small number.

But, even if it is a small number, our voting turnout is so low, a small number of people changing habits in this country could produce massive outcomes in elections and therefore policy.

***edited to refute the "small number of people" argument.

Being fired from Fox completely broke Tucker's mind...

Or was his mental degradation building up while he was still a Fox talking head?

Either way, its time for him to exit stage right and forgotten.

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Here's the problem...Israel (America's closest and most important ally) uses money and blackmail to influence our political system, giving everyone from Qatar Carlson, Candice Owens, MTG to Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib an opening to foment anti semitism...

I realize fighting anti semitism is a forever whack a mole game, but Israel could do themselves a favor by neutering AIPAC, ADL etc

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Does America have interest groups abroad, or is it just bad when Israel looks to promote their interests? By the way, both of those groups you mentioned are AMERICAN groups.

This is just a ridiculous assertion all the way around. You can't create the premise that just because a group supports Jews or the state of Israel that they are controlled by a foreign entity. That's just bat**** crazy. And I don't even like the ADL.

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As an American, I'm for American interest groups abroad.

If this was a thread about China or Bangladeshi influence in American politics, I'd say the same thing about them.

There is an extra-special relationship between Israel and the US and between Israel and US citizen Jews. It's cultural significance, importance and impact in America doesn't need to be spelled out in this forum...it's different than any other...I happen to be totally supportive of the relationship; and wide awake about the vigilance required to avoid, for example, future Jonathan Pollard type of situations. We are, after all, two completely separate countries, requiring black-and-white lines to be drawn in some critical areas. We cannot afford to be a completely open book with complete access to any foreign country (amazing it even has to be said)

AIPAC needs to be seen through a similar lens as say, the Confucian Institute - That's a metaphor. They're obviously not identical - and I'm not going to write a detailed thesis on the differences for you. Their influence, while often mutually beneficial, does not always completely align with American interests.

You're wasting your time if you're setting me up to call me an anti-semite.

Edit: dig around the web for some of Eric Weinstein takes on the matter - there's almost no daylight beween what he and I think.

He should apply for a CDL and change his name to Trucker Carlson.

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Tucker does make a good point though. Onlyfans is actually a much bigger threat to our civilization than "radical Islam".

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A guillotine may be more painful than the needle, but both forms of execution end up the same way.

In other words, this isn't much of a point. Certainly not a "good point," as you allege.

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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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I imagine he is making more now then when he was at Fox. I don't think he threw away his career, only his prestige.

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It's a hard pill to swallow for many around here, but Tucker is more popular than he has ever been.

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More page views has nothing to do with popularity if by popular you mean the number of people that support and agree with the person's views. Howard Stern was considered popular at one time as well. Most shock jocks have their moments in the sun as they attract both those that believe what they are saying and those that want the hear what he says next.

If your argument is that he is more well known now than when he was on Fox, I agree with that. His reach is much more expansive and younger than when he was on Fox News and watched by the same 4-5 million middle aged and retired people that watch the channel daily. If your suggestion is that he is more popular in the sense that more people are fans and support his view on the world than ever before, I would want to see your data. His international fans don't count as far as I'm concerned. The best number I can find on estimated subscribers to his paid content is 200k. When you own your own content that is certainly not inconsequential. He has a following, no doubt. But I have a hard time believing more than 4-5 million Americans both believe in and care what he says on a weekly basis. But hey, I'm open to being proven wrong.

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Tucker has mastered how to throw a career away. Either he's getting paid bigtime by some pro muslim organization or he's just a lunatic.

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I imagine he is making more now then when he was at Fox. I don't think he threw away his career, only his prestige.

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It's a hard pill to swallow for many around here, but Tucker is more popular than he has ever been.

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More page views has nothing to do with popularity if by popular you mean the number of people that support and agree with the person's views. Howard Stern was considered popular at one time as well. Most shock jocks have their moments in the sun as they attract both those that believe what they are saying and those that want the hear what he says next.

If your argument is that he is more well known now than when he was on Fox, I agree with that. His reach is much more expansive and younger than when he was on Fox News and watched by the same 4-5 million middle aged and retired people that watch the channel daily. If your suggestion is that he is more popular in the sense that more people are fans and support his view on the world than ever before, I would want to see your data. His international fans don't count as far as I'm concerned. The best number I can find on estimated subscribers to his paid content is 200k. When you own your own content that is certainly not inconsequential. He has a following, no doubt. But I have a hard time believing more than 4-5 million Americans both believe in and care what he says on a weekly basis. But hey, I'm open to being proven wrong.

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Yeah, that's why I said it's a hard pill to swallow for many around here

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"He said he is unaware of a single person in the United States who has been killed by radical Islam over the past 24 years."

Why did he specify 24 years instead of 25 or more, and…

Oh… yeah.

I personally think American lives and limbs lost overseas count, as well.

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2015 - San Bernardino CA targeting a Christmas Party. The perpetrators, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik one had parents from Pakistan and one immigrated from Pakistan.

2016 - Orland FL Pulse Night Club targeting gays. The perpetrator: Omar Mir Seddique Mateen whose parents came from Afghanistan.

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Hell...

November 26, 2025...two NG shot by radical islamist...

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Tucker does make a good point though. Onlyfans is actually a much bigger threat to our civilization than "radical Islam".

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A guillotine may be more painful than the needle, but both forms of execution end up the same way.

In other words, this isn't much of a point. Certainly not a "good point," as you allege.

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I've addressed this a few times. I'm not sure you understand the damage that onlyfans does to both men and also women. In this country, America.

Tucker's paid pro-Islamic spin is obviously working on some of yall if he's got you talking about Only Fans instead of recent radical violence.

The Israeli lobby is probably way too powerful in our government but he is so unserious now with his over the top blame game it is leading to his forever undoing.

Why can't he just be legitimately truthful and look at all sides.

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That's a weak strawman.

I'm not saying any porn or other previous versions of cultural decay are good and onlyfans is bad. I'm saying only fans is another form of making the masses ignorant, amoral or immoral and lazy.

Do you think the 1700s version of an American would let in these Muslims in and allow the threat to our country and our culture? If not, why?

Because they were active in there communities, generally moral, God fearing people (however flawed) and well educated.

Our masses are not. Why?
Because they waste their time in amoral and immoral things and live in complaceny and apathy.

Onlyfans and other things are massive contributors to that cultural decay.

I dont know what is so hard to understand about this logic.

If you want to defend our cultural flaws and shortcomings make a point and not a strawman. I'm trying to look at how we could allow these things to happen to our country and I see the cultural problems.


Furthermore, I think the average American would be shocked how many people are addicted to porn and how many hours a day are being spent on video games and fantasy online environments. I don't for a second believe it's a small number.

But, even if it is a small number, our voting turnout is so low, a small number of people changing habits in this country could produce massive outcomes in elections and therefore policy.

***edited to refute the "small number of people" argument.

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I agree with you re OnlyFans. Also - OnlyFans is affecting Americans everywhere. Radical Islam is concentrated or sporadic. Both are threats for different reasons.

Tuckers point could technically be correct but it's subjective. I listened to the clip and came away thinking his overall point is, why are we able to do things like * (ETA) quickly send missles to strike targets in Nigeria yet refuse to do anything to clean up our own house?

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Here's the problem...Israel (America's closest and most important ally) uses money and blackmail to influence our political system, giving everyone from Qatar Carlson, Candice Owens, MTG to Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib an opening to foment anti semitism...

I realize fighting anti semitism is a forever whack a mole game, but Israel could do themselves a favor by neutering AIPAC, ADL etc

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blame the Jews for people blaming the Jews

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I agree with you re OnlyFans. Also - OnlyFans is affecting Americans everywhere. Radical Islam is concentrated or sporadic. Both are threats for different reasons.

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Got news for ya, trashy ho's have always been around, you nerds just may not have known how to find them before. But they don't organize terror plots or spend millions to influence American political dialogue.

It's utterly insane that yall are buying into the false moral equivalency, and for anyone to pretend that Israel is the only foreign government spending money to influence our national dialogue. This thread is evidence that the propaganda is working on some people who consider themselves patriots.

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I agree with you re OnlyFans. Also - OnlyFans is affecting Americans everywhere. Radical Islam is concentrated or sporadic. Both are threats for different reasons.

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Got news for ya, trashy ho's have always been around, you nerds just may not have known how to find them before. But they don't organize terror plots or spend millions to influence American political dialogue.

It's utterly insane that yall are buying into the false moral equivalency, and for anyone to pretend that Israel is the only foreign government spending money to influence our national dialogue. This thread is evidence that the propaganda is working on some people who consider themselves patriots.

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It's not a moral equivalency. No one said that except you. This whole "yeah I can find trashy hoes and you can't" shtick is a terrible argument. As a country, do we want our women to be selling their bodies? Do you want that for your wife, your daughter, your niece, your neighbor? Do you realize that these acts corrupt the spirit and the morals of both the women who do them and the men that consume them? There are orders of magnitude more of your countrymen wasting away with this degeneracy than there are "radical muslim extremists" in this country

I'm done with Tucker. I don't know what is wrong with him, but he isn't worth listening to anymore.

It is pretty amazing how far Tucker has fallen. He is not the type of person I typically pay close attention to at this point, but then I feel like I almost sort of need to at times, because he has such had a huge following, and still yields influence.

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Then why the hell do you keep bringing it up?

You're just repeating an old Islamicist talking point.

Your incel rants aren't working.

One year ago, Tucker Carlson and Douglas Macgregor claimed the U.S. was at its “weakest point” to face Iran and that Israel would face “24/7 missile strikes.”

The U.S. and Israel smoked Iran. Stop trusting the Muslim Brotherhood propagandists.

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— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) December 27, 2025

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It's not a moral equivalency.

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Then why the hell do you keep bringing it up?

You're just repeating an old Islamicist talking point.

Your incel rants aren't working.

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Because it's the point Tucker made in the OP. It's literally the subject of this thread

Tucker is obviously being paid to make that point. Are you? Or are you that gullible?

I mean, radical islam crashed 4 planes, took down 2 towers full of people, and partially destroyed the Pentagon. But yeah, this is all some Jew conspiracy