Keyno said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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The longer I live, the more I realize "radical islam" is an op.

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And you're able to live longer because some people choose to fight this "op", worldwide, preventing it from coming to, and ruining, our great nation.

Islam, radical or not, proves daily to be a religion not of peace, but subjugation via violence. Look at the beheadings, the stonings, and other murderous activities. And that's just Muslim on Muslim violence, not even their actions versus Israelis or other non-Muslims.

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I support outlawing islam. Is that "conservative"?

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Religiously? Yes.

Politically? No.




But I'll allow it. :-)

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I am deferring to you as the board's most "conservative" poster. Can we outlaw it. Or are we doomed to just complain about it on message boards while doing endless foreign war.

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No, that isn't a politically conservative stance. Freedom is key. Even religious freedom. Even if that religion is full of violent morons and weirdos.

If you give the govt the ability to "ban" a certain religion, just because, that opens the door to future idiocy against other religions, for whatever reason.

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Yeah, thats why "conservatism" is defunct. We have a problem that everyone is mad about about .Banning it would fix it. But banning it is not "conservative" so we cant do it

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Not Constitutional, either. That darned Constitution gets in the way of lots of people's fun

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When our Founders drafted the Constitution, they were definitely taking into account unlimited immigration and islam

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Irrelevant. Are you an originalist, or not? You're using the same argument leftists use against ARs.

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No I'm not. I am saying islam should be outlawed in the US. You apparently disagree

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I'm saying the First Amendment, like it or not, protects it. You don't agree with the First Amendment?


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Islam is not mentioned as an exception. It was written that way for a reason.

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Hence my earlier comment which you either did not understand or just disregarded. The Founders did not write in "freedom of religion" for islam. They were English protestants who warred with muslims and hated their King. They literally owned slaves. So yea no, the Founders were not allowing islam in the US

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Probably didn't want those Jews in her either….or Buddhists….or Hindus……. Hell, while you're at it, let's not the F16 home run and boot those pesky Catholics while we're at it.

i have ZERO love for Islam, but that's a slippery slope you're on that goes against everything our forefathers stood for.

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I am sorry it makes you uncomfortable. The Founders literally said only free white landowners can vote. It's a messy situation if you are sensitive but also trying to quote the Constitution at me

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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That's not what we do or should do.

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That's fair. I guess we are doomed to complain on message boards instead of fixing problems.

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Well, you could actually win with ideas instead of using government violence. Be smarter than the other side.

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Violence? What is this? Islam should be banned. If you disagree, that's your prerogative.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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That's not what we do or should do.

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That's fair. I guess we are doomed to complain on message boards instead of fixing problems.

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Well, you could actually win with ideas instead of using government violence. Be smarter than the other side.

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Violence? What is this? Islam should be banned. If you disagree, that's your prerogative.

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The only way to ban a religion in any country is to use violence to eradicate and then keep it out.

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Ah, more personal attacks.

We have at least 10 that post on F16, and probably a few more on TA.

And yes, Islamists and totalitarian "christian" theocracts are simply opposite sides of the same evil coin. The world would be better off without any of them.

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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That's not what we do or should do.

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That's fair. I guess we are doomed to complain on message boards instead of fixing problems.

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Well, you could actually win with ideas instead of using government violence. Be smarter than the other side.

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Violence? What is this? Islam should be banned. If you disagree, that's your prerogative.

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The only way to ban a religion in any country is to use violence to eradicate and then keep it out.

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That's correct. The government can use violence to enforce laws.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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That's not what we do or should do.

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That's fair. I guess we are doomed to complain on message boards instead of fixing problems.

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Well, you could actually win with ideas instead of using government violence. Be smarter than the other side.

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Violence? What is this? Islam should be banned. If you disagree, that's your prerogative.

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The only way to ban a religion in any country is to use violence to eradicate and then keep it out.

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That's correct. The government can use violence to enforce laws.

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Usually we dislike it when the government is used to violent someone's rights. Maybe you are just the same as the Muslims.

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Rapier108 said:

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Ah, more personal attacks.

We have at least 10 that post on F16, and probably a few more on TA.

And yes, Islamists and totalitarian "christian" theocracts are simply opposite sides of the same evil coin. The world would be better off without any of them.

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Rapier108 said:

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Ah, more personal attacks.

We have at least 10 that post on F16, and probably a few more on TA.

And yes, Islamists and totalitarian "christian" theocracts are simply opposite sides of the same evil coin. The world would be better off without any of them.

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I've never attacked you until this moronic post. Pay attention to posting history. This coming from you is a shock. Dont go Tucker on us.

So do tell who are these "Christian Theocrats you are so afraid of. You do know there is a BIG difference between Christianity and Islam, right ?

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BigRobSA said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Ah, more personal attacks.

We have at least 10 that post on F16, and probably a few more on TA.

And yes, Islamists and totalitarian "christian" theocracts are simply opposite sides of the same evil coin. The world would be better off without any of them.

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I've never attacked you until this moronic post. Pay attention to posting history. This coming from you is a shock. Dont go Tucker on us.

So do tell who are these "Christian Theocrats you are so afraid of. You do know there is a BIG difference between Christianity and Islam, right ?

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More like Catholic theocrat. I know one changes his handle often. Can't remember the more recent names, but was one, he was from S. Africa IIRC, that posted a lot and still does, from time to time.

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Keyno said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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That's not what we do or should do.

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That's fair. I guess we are doomed to complain on message boards instead of fixing problems.

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Well, you could actually win with ideas instead of using government violence. Be smarter than the other side.

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Violence? What is this? Islam should be banned. If you disagree, that's your prerogative.

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The only way to ban a religion in any country is to use violence to eradicate and then keep it out.

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That's correct. The government can use violence to enforce laws.

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Usually we dislike it when the government is used to violent someone's rights. Maybe you are just the same as the Muslims.

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Yeah. I'm literally saying we should ban Islam in the US. But I'm "the same as Muslims". This is why I say "conservatism" is defunct.

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