Why does any American by birth pay taxes when it's all stolen and given to foreigners

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BigRobSA
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Whoop2 said:

Biden not Trump caused this inflation and let a lot of people in sucking up welfare and pirating our country. It takes more that a year to fix what Dems did over 4 years

Trump started this inflationary spiral with his ridiculous reaction to COVID, Biden turned it to 11. That's on top of Trump's outright and overtly liberal spending policies as 45, and now 47.

Again, it's been more than just Biden (and Trump) getting us here. But those two are complicit in printing us into Bolivian.
Spergin
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Spergin
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Whoop2 said:

Biden not Trump caused this inflation and let a lot of people in sucking up welfare and pirating our country. It takes more that a year to fix what Dems did over 4 years


If you think the GOP is not also in on the fraud you're delusional. Not one arrest will be made. We'll have a bunch of hearing to listen to politicians bloviate and masturbate in front of cameras but it will get shelved immediately afterwards and nothing will happen to anyone.
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Compensation without taxation is our burden now
Spergin
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AggielandPoultry said:

Not to be (That Guy) but damn have you not seen how much money we give to Israel. Its insane and for what??


They are a foreign nation and like every foreign nation, is fleecing us for money. Their people don't integrate at all and continue supporting Israel first.

The only people who appear to integrate are Europeans, Koreans, Japanese, and Vietnamese. That's it.
Spergin
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TAMUallen said:

Compensation without taxation is our burden now


This is the real white man's burden.
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Spergin said:

TAMUallen said:

Compensation without taxation is our burden now


This is the real white man's burden.


I mean I feel like we are being appeased by restricting fat poor SNAP no longer wasting as much
JamesPShelley
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BigRobSA said:

Spergin said:

Miller is right. Our exploding national debt is almost certainly mostly because of fraud at this point.

Well, that, and other liberal idiocy like what Trump and Biden did over the last 5 + yrs causing all of the inflation.


Oh, for ****'s sake, quit being a follower. You guys, lol.
Ag with kids
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Spergin said:

We've all heard about the Somali daycares but this extends to virtually all industries.

Same situation in Ohio:



Trucking examples:



College loans:



SBA loans:



Gas Stations with SBA loans:



H1-Bs:



These scams have likely gone into the trillions at this point. The amount that has been stolen from American taxpayers is probably enough to pay our national debt. The entire 3rd world sees us as nothing but a place to fleece for money.

Our government is in on these scams yet if we don't pay taxes we get everything taken and go to prison. The entire system is setup to drain money from Americans and fund foreigners. This is way beyond taxation is theft territory, this is Americans literally being forced maliciously to fund their own demise and replacement.

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Why does any American by birth pay taxes when it's all stolen and given to foreigners

Well, the correct answer is that none of us wants to go to jail for tax evasion...
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Spergin said:

Rossticus said:

And I'll bet not a single individual associated with any of those accounts actually risks their ass by not paying their taxes. And then, when they get audited, are they still going to refuse or is everyone going to voluntarily accept the consequences when the IRS comes after them? I don't see the administration giving Americans a tax reprieve for 2025.


Most likely because unlike foreigners, Americans will lose everything and go to prison if they break the law where the government will use every available resource to drop the hammer on them.

If enough tax paying citizens go to jail, they're going to have a real problem with tax revenue the following year.

It's kind of like high prices being the solution to high prices.

The government can only put so many tax paying citizens in jail before they have a real revenue problem.
Ol Rock
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When will people be arrested?
ts5641
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Man, no wonder they stole a presidential election and literally tried at least twice to kill Trump. The ocean of dirty taxpayer money is beyond stunning!
Helicopter Ben
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Tom Fox said:

If you cut spending to the bone focused only on the core government functions at the nation's founding, it becomes very hard to siphon off so much money.

But when you have allowed the government sector to be like 1/3 of the gdp, what did you expect to happen?

Small government. No entitlements.

This is the answer. Any other "solution" will end up right back in the same situation. Govt should be so small and limited that we barely notice the taxes needed to fund it. I'm glad people are finally starting to notice just how absurd it's become. This has been going on for decades.
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Trump is too old. He isn't doing enough jailing, too much tweeting and boasting, not enough action. Even his MAGA supporters are angry now.
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One small data point .. the dude I bought a house from... Kept his trucking business address as our address... I sent numerous return to sender letters back to creditors, the secretary of state, etc. nobody seemed to give a f&&& his registered agent address was fraudulent. I had to fight the state for ten plus years before they finally fixed it on their website.
Spergin
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Ol Rock said:

When will people be arrested?


They won't and everyone knows it.
mandevilleag
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torrid said:

They should create a special government group to investigate spending, eliminate fraud and waste, and improve overall efficiency.

I didn't see the sarcasm face, so I'll respond. There is already a Government Accountability Office. It's a congressional office, not executive. They do a heck of a lot of investigating, some it pretty good. Unfortunately, not much ever really happens with their findings and recommendations.
J. Walter Weatherman
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4 said:

Spergin said:

Rossticus said:

And I'll bet not a single individual associated with any of those accounts actually risks their ass by not paying their taxes. And then, when they get audited, are they still going to refuse or is everyone going to voluntarily accept the consequences when the IRS comes after them? I don't see the administration giving Americans a tax reprieve for 2025.


Most likely because unlike foreigners, Americans will lose everything and go to prison if they break the law where the government will use every available resource to drop the hammer on them.

If enough tax paying citizens go to jail, they're going to have a real problem with tax revenue the following year.

It's kind of like high prices being the solution to high prices.

The government can only put so many tax paying citizens in jail before they have a real revenue problem.


That number is exponentially higher than the actual number of people willing to blow up their lives and go to jail. And guaranteed none of those clout chasing x accounts are even thinking about actually not paying.
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I'm just jealous and angry I'm too stupid to commit legal fraud and get away with it.

YouBet
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We are going to get more of our money stolen for them as the raping of America continues:

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When Congress returns next week, lawmakers will have less than a month to pass the remaining nine appropriations bills funding federal agencies in fiscal year 2026.

Already, however, there are signs of further delay, with two Republican senators pledging to vote against the bill for Labor and Health and Human Services due to its inclusion of $5.69 billion for refugee assistance services.

The amount is less than the $6.3 billion that HHS's Administration of Children and Families, which runs various refugee and asylee support programs, received in fiscal years 2024 and 2025.

But it is still three times higher than funding levels prior to Joe Biden's presidency, leading U.S. Sens. Mike Lee, R-Utah, and Rand Paul, R-Ky., to vocally oppose the Labor-HHS funding bill.

Congressionally-appropriated funding for REA programs which provide medical, employment, childcare and cash assistance to eligible refugees amounted to $1.91 billion in fiscal year 2021
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Spergin
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Yep
BQ2017
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Because what are you gonna do about it? You're going to sit down, shut your mouth, and pay up
Tom Fox
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BQ2017 said:

Because what are you gonna do about it? You're going to sit down, shut your mouth, and pay up


There is always the choice to cheat too. For many it would be simple and hard to catch but they don't because they are not crooks.

But if the money is going to be stolen to fund fraud, maybe the calculus changes for some.
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dds08
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Roth IRAs are a tax haven.

It's not much, but it's a start.
agracer
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Your missing the part where a lot of the money goes right back to the politicians who pass these laws.
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Spergin said:

Ol Rock said:

When will people be arrested?


They won't and everyone knows it.


As a friend put it

This is the problem with prosecution. Some nobody gets 10 years in jail, which is a better life than they ever had back home, and their entire extended family is set for life in their home country. Every immigrant in the world makes that trade, over and over again.

How could the situation be worse? It could be worse if we spend millions of dollars building cases against useless third worlders, pay for their public defense as well, people claim it as a victory, then they get out in a few years on probation and just go back to Somalia. That being the worst outcome possible, which means it's the one that's going to happen…"how could we possibly spend more taxpayer money on this?"
Pinochet
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mandevilleag said:

torrid said:

They should create a special government group to investigate spending, eliminate fraud and waste, and improve overall efficiency.

I didn't see the sarcasm face, so I'll respond. There is already a Government Accountability Office. It's a congressional office, not executive. They do a heck of a lot of investigating, some it pretty good. Unfortunately, not much ever really happens with their findings and recommendations.

But what we really need is a department in the executive that works to make it more efficient. Not sure what to call it, but it should be a cheeky acronym and we should get a really rich guy who runs a company to run this new department. They'll probably get pushback and I'm sure Congress won't actually make any of their changes permanent though.
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