Why does any American by birth pay taxes when it's all stolen and given to foreigners

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10:41a
We've all heard about the Somali daycares but this extends to virtually all industries.

Same situation in Ohio:



Trucking examples:



College loans:



SBA loans:



Gas Stations with SBA loans:



H1-Bs:



These scams have likely gone into the trillions at this point. The amount that has been stolen from American taxpayers is probably enough to pay our national debt. The entire 3rd world sees us as nothing but a place to fleece for money.

Our government is in on these scams yet if we don't pay taxes we get everything taken and go to prison. The entire system is setup to drain money from Americans and fund foreigners. This is way beyond taxation is theft territory, this is Americans literally being forced maliciously to fund their own demise and replacement.
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10:46a


Miller is right. Our exploding national debt is almost certainly mostly because of fraud at this point.
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In reply to Spergin • 10:52a
Spergin said:
Miller is right. Our exploding national debt is almost certainly mostly because of fraud at this point.

Well, that, and other liberal idiocy like what Trump and Biden did over the last 5 + yrs causing all of the inflation.
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In reply to BigRobSA • 11:01a
BigRobSA said:
Spergin said:
Miller is right. Our exploding national debt is almost certainly mostly because of fraud at this point.

Well, that, and other liberal idiocy like what Trump and Biden did over the last 5 + yrs causing all of the inflation.


This fraud likely dwarfs all of that. We're talking many trillions stolen here.
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J. Walter Weatherman
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11:03a
Want everyone to stop paying taxes? You first.
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Dan Scott
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11:05a
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I don't know how many government employees there are or what they do, but allocate a decent chunk to fraud prevention would be a nice start.
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 11:10a
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Want everyone to stop paying taxes? You first.


I wouldn't mind putting tens of thousands of dollars extra back into my pocket each year. But, alas, we all know how that'll end up. Not worth the inevitable outcome just to make a point that won't achieve any results.
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In reply to Spergin • 11:12a
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I would ask what are you going to do about it and why haven't you already done it?

They all know this has been happening and they're just rattling their sabers because the people are now learning about it. They'll deport 20 people out of the 20-million involved and they'll recapture $10-million of the $10-trillion stolen.

Then they'll all sit around and laugh, and start it all over again because we the people don't have the will to do anything about it.
You may not be a moron, but some people think you are.
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 11:13a
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Want everyone to stop paying taxes? You first.




It may very well happen. I've seen huge accounts posting similar things.







The idea is exploding on X.
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11:13a
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The answer to your question -- prison probably sucks.
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In reply to Dan Scott • 11:14a
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I don't know how many government employees there are or what they do, but allocate a decent chunk to fraud prevention would be a nice start.


Everyone knows absolutely nothing will happen beyond a few hearings where some jackasses get to grandstand.
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11:15a
Watched a really good documentary on the NY City Mob from the 1950s to the 1990s. You know one theme that was consistent during that 40 years of Mob history?

If you stopped paying them their ****ing money, you were met with an immediate, violent and very effective outcome.

The US federal government, and the politicians who own it, makes the NY Mob of that era look like a troop of Brownie Scouts selling homemade Rice Krispie Treats.

Pay them their ****ing money
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In reply to Spergin • 11:18a
And I'll bet not a single individual associated with any of those accounts actually risks their ass by not paying their taxes. And then, when they get audited, are they still going to refuse or is everyone going to voluntarily accept the consequences when the IRS comes after them? I don't see the administration giving Americans a tax reprieve for 2025.
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11:19a
Unfortunately, this pretty much cements that any meaningful "tax strike" is not happening.




Tragically, no one in our government, including the man at the top, really give a crap about regular Americans getting absolutely bent over.

I'm Gipper
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In reply to Spergin • 11:23a
Spergin said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Want everyone to stop paying taxes? You first.




It may very well happen. I've seen huge accounts posting similar things.







The idea is exploding on X.


Good luck, I'm sure it'll work out great.
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DamnGood86 said:
Spergin said:


I would ask what are you going to do about it and why haven't you already done it?

They all know this has been happening and they're just rattling their sabers because the people are now learning about it. They'll deport 20 people out of the 20-million involved and they'll recapture $10-million of the $10-trillion stolen.

Then they'll all sit around and laugh, and start it all over again because we the people don't have the will to do anything about it.

1000% correct.
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11:23a
Can a president blanket pardon for tax charges? That would be a hell of a platform to run on.

Force congress to pass balanced budget bill
Force congress to lass No federal tax dollars in any way for illegals or children of illegals

Without that, don't pay taxes and as president "I will pardon you".
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In reply to Rossticus • 11:32a
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And I'll bet not a single individual associated with any of those accounts actually risks their ass by not paying their taxes. And then, when they get audited, are they still going to refuse or is everyone going to voluntarily accept the consequences when the IRS comes after them? I don't see the administration giving Americans a tax reprieve for 2025.


Most likely because unlike foreigners, Americans will lose everything and go to prison if they break the law where the government will use every available resource to drop the hammer on them.
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In reply to Spergin • 11:35a
Spergin said:
BigRobSA said:
Spergin said:
Miller is right. Our exploding national debt is almost certainly mostly because of fraud at this point.

Well, that, and other liberal idiocy like what Trump and Biden did over the last 5 + yrs causing all of the inflation.


This fraud likely dwarfs all of that. We're talking many trillions stolen here.
LOL

Their idiocy cost us several trillion dollars in just a few years.

Yeah this fraud is ridiculous, but pails in comparison to other, equally political, stuff, like the Trump/Biden inflation and Obamacare, etc.
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11:36a
Because Dems and Repubs can both gain political power on someone else's dime.

We sold all our high paying jobs to Indians and we sold all our daycare jobs to Somalians.

After some years, there will be no USA.
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11:43a
If you cut spending to the bone focused only on the core government functions at the nation's founding, it becomes very hard to siphon off so much money.

But when you have allowed the government sector to be like 1/3 of the gdp, what did you expect to happen?

Small government. No entitlements.
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In reply to Over_ed • 11:46a
Over_ed said:
The answer to your question -- prison probably sucks.


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11:50a
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If the rules were changed so that everyone had to pay their federal income tax at once with money withdrawn from their bank accounts, most people would care more about issues like this.

Much of the country pays little to no income tax, and what they do pay is withheld from their payroll checks. It's a perfect setup for our federal government to pilfer our economy.
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In reply to Scotty Appleton • 11:53a
Scotty Appleton said:
Can a president blanket pardon for tax charges? That would be a hell of a platform to run on.

Force congress to pass balanced budget bill
Force congress to lass No federal tax dollars in any way for illegals or children of illegals

Without that, don't pay taxes and as president "I will pardon you".

I would be all for a President doing this, though the establishment corrupt Congress would impeach them in a heart beat.
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A strike won't fix it but violence will, but Americans aren't ready yet. They still have too much to lose.
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The Dem base thinks the existence of rich people is worse than the theft of taxpayer funds.
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In reply to Spergin • 12:52p
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Spergin said:


Miller is right. Our exploding national debt is almost certainly mostly because of fraud at this point.

Correct. National Debt is a requirement and is not an accident.

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Conservatives are the problem. They control the house yet refuse to shutoff the money. POWER OF THE PURSE. GOP opens the purse like a cheap *****.
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 1:05p
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Conservatives are the problem. They control the house yet refuse to shutoff the money. POWER OF THE PURSE. GOP opens the purse like a cheap *****.


There's your first mistake. They're neither Conservatives, nor conservative.
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They should create a special government group to investigate spending, eliminate fraud and waste, and improve overall efficiency.
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True. They're AIPAC shills. Like Massie said. They have to ask their aipac rep before they do anything. We're a vassal state hollowed out.
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And if Knee Pads had won, this would have just gone on as business as usual with the average American getting destroyed in favor of money shipped to other countries (EU, Ukraine, albino gay frog studies in Uganda, etc), illegal immigrants, and NGOs, who just launder the $ for special interests and politicians (FJB and his whole ugly clan and all similar ilk).

The time for what our forefathers did is a long way in the rear-view mirror.
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The federal government spends trillions of $$ of your taxpayer $$$ on things they have no right, responsibility, or constitutional authority to do so. Hundreds of programs deemed "legal" and enshrined as precedent as it's a nice idea are unconstitutional, period.

The government we have today is what the Civil War was truly fought about/for/against.
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Not to be (That Guy) but damn have you not seen how much money we give to Israel. Its insane and for what??
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In reply to BigRobSA • 1:35p
Biden not Trump caused this inflation and let a lot of people in sucking up welfare and pirating our country. It takes more that a year to fix what Dems did over 4 years
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