Minneapolis getting Hot? [Staff Warning. Take Note]

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He can't keep getting away with this!
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Really sad that the socialist politicians and their Pravda media arm have programmed so many low IQ useful idiots to believe so many obvious lies.

You're not at war with the government. The federal government's efforts to detain and deport illegal criminals is not the same as Gestapo rounding up the Jews. They are not randomly apprehending anyone based on looks. They are not targeting citizens with no criminal history, but they will defend themselves. You are not going to be a hero for harassing and obstructing their operations to protect illegal alien criminals. You're a tool of the Marxists. You're called useful idiots for a reason. It's a Marxist tactic to manipulate people like you.
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Logos Stick said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Logos Stick said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Btw, here he is on the sidewalk with a PHONE on his hand when an ICE officer approaches him:



In a few Minutes you'll say he should be even be outside.


He assaulted an ICE officer, he violated 18 USC 111. Now he's dead because of it. Had he been somewhere else, allowing ICE to do their jobs, he would still be in the planet.


You are lying.


No, it's clear on the video. Here is a subject matter expert who defended numerous January 6th protestors who did the exact same thing and went to prison:



"The person shot was actually in the middle of the street directing cars to drive through the enforcement operation -- there were ICE Agents in the street. The guys actions were causing hazards for them.

The agent then pushes a lady down when she stumbles in the snow while going backwards.

The guy comes to the assistance, and the Agent then pushes him and he pushes back.

THAT is an 18 USC 111 violation."

You are wrong. The officer in the photo inserted himself into the cameraman's space. To claim that's assault is laughable. That is what you claimed as a violation of the law.
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Sea Speed said:



Please tell me you actually didn't fall for that.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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HouAg12 said:




Theres no where in that video of him putting his hands up
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If I see someone getting arrested or a traffic stop, I don't interfere. I am alive. Pretty simple. That and I don't try to run over LEOs.
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Logos Stick said:

Satellite of Love said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Btw, here he is on the sidewalk with a PHONE on his hand when an ICE officer approaches him:



In a few Minutes you'll say he should be even be outside.


A still shot is irrelevant. He is clearly in the middle of the street in the video.

In the street or not, the agent escalated the situation. He didn't approach them. They got in his face with zero deescalation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlxoj6/clear_proof_that_the_man_was_shoot_in_the_back/


This is a total bull**** post.


So is any post from that far left liberal hell hole Reddit. People who bring Reddit crap over here should never be taken seriously.
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

Aglaw97 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

ttu_85 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Latest reports are stating that the man was actually disarmed immediately.

What justification now?


Dont know I wasn't there and neither were you. I do know this if that dude hadn't strapped on a 9-mil and went looking for trouble in terrible weather in a volatile situation nobody would need to justify anything would they ?


Yeah, good thing we have cell phones right?


If you can't understand the point some of us are trying to make, innocent people will continue to die. It used to be a universal truth amongst EVERYONE that if a cop tells you to do something, do it eve if you are completely in the right. There's an old saying "you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride". Just shut up and do what cops ask and then fight your battle later. But if you go looking for trouble, which this guy was clearly, it very likely may find you even if it wasn't justified. Right now nobody has all the facts. But this guy clearly put himself in a position for a bad outcome.


These aren't cops. This is ICE. they have a totally separate set of rules, that you seem to be okay with.

Show us the law then that say they cant detain.
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Satellite of Love said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Btw, here he is on the sidewalk with a PHONE on his hand when an ICE officer approaches him:



In a few Minutes you'll say he should be even be outside.


A still shot is irrelevant. He is clearly in the middle of the street in the video.

In the street or not, the agent escalated the situation. He didn't approach them. They got in his face with zero deescalation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlxoj6/clear_proof_that_the_man_was_shoot_in_the_back/


Again you see it the way you want.

He and the two women are in the street impeding traffic (car driving around the guy), agent shoves the one women who had been at the car across the street seconds ago. Guy shoves agent in response to woman being shoved, pepper spray, wrestling ensues, gun seen, disarmed or not, I can't tell, agent fired.

Dude's dead because he went into the street and helped the women obstruct the officers and even pushed one when they forced her to move (pushed her) when she wouldn't comply.

How many times could all three of those people just stayed on the sidewalk and filmed and yelled their protest? Instead they inserted themselves directly into a law enforcement action.
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Poster edited it because he believed Reddit without watching. So noble and brave of him.
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Belton Ag said:

schmendeler said:

This board would be praising the red coats and posting FAFO after the Boston massacre if it existed in 1770


You're completely full of crap and keep posting these false historical analogies. I would expect better from you.


Feel free to explain why the analogy is false. Be detailed.
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Satellite of Love said:

Logos Stick said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Logos Stick said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Btw, here he is on the sidewalk with a PHONE on his hand when an ICE officer approaches him:



In a few Minutes you'll say he should be even be outside.


He assaulted an ICE officer, he violated 18 USC 111. Now he's dead because of it. Had he been somewhere else, allowing ICE to do their jobs, he would still be in the planet.


You are lying.


No, it's clear on the video. Here is a subject matter expert who defended numerous January 6th protestors who did the exact same thing and went to prison:



"The person shot was actually in the middle of the street directing cars to drive through the enforcement operation -- there were ICE Agents in the street. The guys actions were causing hazards for them.

The agent then pushes a lady down when she stumbles in the snow while going backwards.

The guy comes to the assistance, and the Agent then pushes him and he pushes back.

THAT is an 18 USC 111 violation."

You are wrong. The officer in the photo inserted himself into the cameraman's space. To claim that's assault is laughable. That is what you claimed as a violation of the law.

Another "expert" on the law has entered.
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David_Puddy said:

Logos Stick said:

Satellite of Love said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Btw, here he is on the sidewalk with a PHONE on his hand when an ICE officer approaches him:



In a few Minutes you'll say he should be even be outside.


A still shot is irrelevant. He is clearly in the middle of the street in the video.

In the street or not, the agent escalated the situation. He didn't approach them. They got in his face with zero deescalation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlxoj6/clear_proof_that_the_man_was_shoot_in_the_back/


This is a total bull**** post.


So is any post from that far left liberal hell hole Reddit. People who bring Reddit crap over here should never be taken seriously.

I'm posting a link to where the video exists. People who are openly dismissing video evidence is dumber than a leftist.
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schmendeler said:

Belton Ag said:

schmendeler said:

This board would be praising the red coats and posting FAFO after the Boston massacre if it existed in 1770


You're completely full of crap and keep posting these false historical analogies. I would expect better from you.


Feel free to explain why the analogy is false. Be detailed.

Lets create a fictional hypothetical and try to win an argument.
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Satellite of Love said:

HumbleAg04 said:

If a good shoot, if a bad shoot, the fact remains that person was there due to false claims of ICE kidnapping people and being "evil."

Let them do the job. It is a job that needs doing. There isn't a country in the world that lets anyone come in and do whatever they want and stay there.

This chaos is manufactured by people to empower their lies and themselves. They want more deaths so they can grandstand on socials and hold more inflammatory press conferences.

This thread and overall situation makes it very obvious how so many "good" people ignored what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s.


Ps. The people "protesting" aren't the good guys.

Exactly, here's a federal plant agitator. Notice how the van pulls up and surrounds the knocked over guy and is escorted to the getaway van casually? How would they know to surround him versus others in the little group?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qfol1e/they_are_planting_people/

Please stop with reddit
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Satellite of Love said:

Logos Stick said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Logos Stick said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Btw, here he is on the sidewalk with a PHONE on his hand when an ICE officer approaches him:



In a few Minutes you'll say he should be even be outside.


He assaulted an ICE officer, he violated 18 USC 111. Now he's dead because of it. Had he been somewhere else, allowing ICE to do their jobs, he would still be in the planet.


You are lying.


No, it's clear on the video. Here is a subject matter expert who defended numerous January 6th protestors who did the exact same thing and went to prison:



"The person shot was actually in the middle of the street directing cars to drive through the enforcement operation -- there were ICE Agents in the street. The guys actions were causing hazards for them.

The agent then pushes a lady down when she stumbles in the snow while going backwards.

The guy comes to the assistance, and the Agent then pushes him and he pushes back.

THAT is an 18 USC 111 violation."

You are wrong. The officer in the photo inserted himself into the cameraman's space. To claim that's assault is laughable. That is what you claimed as a violation of the law.


You obviously don't understand what occured and the law.
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backintexas2013 said:

Poster edited it because he believed Reddit without watching. So noble and brave of him.

Yup, and this is exactly the reason why the media is so successful feeding blatant lies and bull**** to their useful idiots.
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Boiling Denim said:

jrdaustin said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

jrdaustin said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Ag87H2O said:

AGinHI said:

The Unforgiven said:

So more info has come out now. He has carrying two additional mags and had no ID on him. That dude planning on shooting a lot. And if he got caught make it harder for law enforcement to ID him.

Well...How would you respond to violent, masked, untrained Gestapo?

It's a recipe for disaster.

Well ... Maybe don't be there to antagonize the law enforcement in the first place. Maybe don't carry a loaded gun and then start a physical altercation with them.

And they aren't violent, they're responding in kind to and armed individual who did not follow their orders and started a physical altercation.

And they aren't Gestapo. That's the kind of inflammatory rhetoric that enrages/emboldens the weak minded and provokes these incidents.

The only recipe for disaster is the left wing nutjobs out there protesting federal agents that are doing their jobs, and the Democrat leaders encouraging and enabling bad things to happen.


This is just Unamerican. No it's not. It's called enforcing the law.

They are exactly like the gestapo. They interrogate people without any sort of cause but their race. Based on what you're saying? FYI, they're doing TARGETED enforcement. That means they know who they're going after before they engage. Big difference than simple racial profiling.

They assault people who protest. No, they respond to individuals who are actively interefering in law enfocement operations. Big difference.

They use excessive force instead of deescalating. Don't even know where to start with this other to say you're living in fantasyland.

To still have this logic you either lack empathy, are brainwashed, or just don't believe in the Constitution. I agree with this statement, but I believe it applies to you.




You have to be willfully ignorant to actually believe what you're saying. Just in a complete dreamworld. Not even worth debating.

Maybe go to China or Russia and then what you are saying is true.

You're so sure, aren't you? I can give you 100% benefit of the doubt and the 72 hour rule, and we'll see what this guy did to find himself surrounded by the LEO's.

If he was just standing there on the sidewalk and was acosted and manhandled for just saying words, you win.

If, however, we find that he actively physically engaged - while armed - and then pulled his weapon while engaged, I win.

And if I win, you admit your whole Gestapo BS is just that. Are you man enough to take that bet?


https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/THKXCV0dFV

You lose buddy



Seeing as you're applying the 20 minute rule to come to your conclusions, I'll refrain from commenting on your reddit submission.
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These idiots are encouraged to show up and disrupt federally lawful enforcement while making law enforcement fear for their safety. Gov and Mayor are 100-% responsible for sending morons to do their dirty work. What did that guy think might happen when he showed up and impeded law enforcement while carrying a gun? Tragic but he played stupid games. There will be others.
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Walz is lying and fanning the flames:

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samurai_science said:

Satellite of Love said:

HumbleAg04 said:

If a good shoot, if a bad shoot, the fact remains that person was there due to false claims of ICE kidnapping people and being "evil."

Let them do the job. It is a job that needs doing. There isn't a country in the world that lets anyone come in and do whatever they want and stay there.

This chaos is manufactured by people to empower their lies and themselves. They want more deaths so they can grandstand on socials and hold more inflammatory press conferences.

This thread and overall situation makes it very obvious how so many "good" people ignored what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s.


Ps. The people "protesting" aren't the good guys.

Exactly, here's a federal plant agitator. Notice how the van pulls up and surrounds the knocked over guy and is escorted to the getaway van casually? How would they know to surround him versus others in the little group?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qfol1e/they_are_planting_people/

Please stop with reddit

You basically 'please don't show us videos that go against our biases!!!!'

I don't care what the threads say over there. I'm referencing the videos. Sorry that hurts your feelings.
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WCrew04 said:

Immigration may be a federal responsibility, but enforcement still has to be competent, restrained, and accountable, and flooding communities with force while civilians get hurt does the opposite of maintaining order. Enforcing the law does not require intimidation or chaos, and when it produces fear and violence, that reflects failure in leadership and execution, not moral authority.

Did you honestly think this drivel was some sort of a coherent point? None of this nonsense would be happening if idiots weren't protesting and interfering with legal ICE operations. The only "failure of leadership" falls squarely on the various levels of government in Minnesota. Strange that this isn't really happening in places other than Portland and Minneapolis, isn't it?
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schmendeler said:

Belton Ag said:

schmendeler said:

This board would be praising the red coats and posting FAFO after the Boston massacre if it existed in 1770


You're completely full of crap and keep posting these false historical analogies. I would expect better from you.


Feel free to explain why the analogy is false. Be detailed.


Ugh, something about taxation without representation.


Here, federal laws were enacted by our representatives and singed into law by a president who was elected and now are being enforced by a president who most considered won a mandate on thsi very issue.
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Satellite of Love said:

samurai_science said:

Satellite of Love said:

HumbleAg04 said:

If a good shoot, if a bad shoot, the fact remains that person was there due to false claims of ICE kidnapping people and being "evil."

Let them do the job. It is a job that needs doing. There isn't a country in the world that lets anyone come in and do whatever they want and stay there.

This chaos is manufactured by people to empower their lies and themselves. They want more deaths so they can grandstand on socials and hold more inflammatory press conferences.

This thread and overall situation makes it very obvious how so many "good" people ignored what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s.


Ps. The people "protesting" aren't the good guys.

Exactly, here's a federal plant agitator. Notice how the van pulls up and surrounds the knocked over guy and is escorted to the getaway van casually? How would they know to surround him versus others in the little group?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qfol1e/they_are_planting_people/

Please stop with reddit

You basically 'please don't show us videos that go against our biases!!!!'

I don't care what the threads say over there. I'm referencing the videos. Sorry that hurts your feelings.

I have seen the videos and think its a good shoot, try again. Please stop with reddit, its cringe.
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sam callahan said:

Quote:

If you can't legally carry around law enforcement without being killed, do you really have second amendment rights?


I legally carry all the time and I have zero fear of getting shot by a cop.


Yep! I carry everywhere and haven't once had the urge to bow up on law enforcement. I've been pulled over a few times while carrying and still miraculously wasn't shot for have a gun in my vehicle. Why? BECAUSE I COMPLY!! It's not that ****ing hard.
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Civilians getting hurt isn't limited to protesters or criminals, and basic rights don't disappear because someone is exercising them in a way you dislike. A system that only works safely if everyone stays silent and compliant is not a sign of strong law enforcement, it's a sign of something broken.
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jdwAg20/91 said:

sam callahan said:

Quote:

If you can't legally carry around law enforcement without being killed, do you really have second amendment rights?


I legally carry all the time and I have zero fear of getting shot by a cop.


Yep! I carry everywhere and haven't once had the urge to bow up on law enforcement. I've been pulled over a few times while carrying and still miraculously wasn't shot for have a gun in my vehicle. Why? BECAUSE I COMPLY!! It's not that ****ing hard.

These progressives are being paid to do this.
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Logos Stick said:

Walz is lying and fanning the flames:



He's pushing the useful idiots to go all out, and leave ICE/DHS/BP with no other option than to use lethal force.

He knows there are enough useful idiots out there who would do it; and he doesn't care if they die.
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Aggie4Christ09 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

2008and1 said:

Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


This isn't tianemen square. There is zero justification for this.


Another one with ALL the facts! Go on: walk us through all her actions before the camera starts rolling


I could tell you the sky is blue and if anyone with Trump said it was brown, you'd fight that it's brown until the day you die.

There's no point.

So leave already, you won't be missed.
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Satellite of Love said:

samurai_science said:

Satellite of Love said:

HumbleAg04 said:

If a good shoot, if a bad shoot, the fact remains that person was there due to false claims of ICE kidnapping people and being "evil."

Let them do the job. It is a job that needs doing. There isn't a country in the world that lets anyone come in and do whatever they want and stay there.

This chaos is manufactured by people to empower their lies and themselves. They want more deaths so they can grandstand on socials and hold more inflammatory press conferences.

This thread and overall situation makes it very obvious how so many "good" people ignored what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s.


Ps. The people "protesting" aren't the good guys.

Exactly, here's a federal plant agitator. Notice how the van pulls up and surrounds the knocked over guy and is escorted to the getaway van casually? How would they know to surround him versus others in the little group?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qfol1e/they_are_planting_people/

Please stop with reddit

You basically 'please don't show us videos that go against our biases!!!!'

I don't care what the threads say over there. I'm referencing the videos. Sorry that hurts your feelings.

Your video provides no credibility to any of your arguments. LOL.
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schmendeler said:

The apologists here acknowledge that we have a constitutional right to protest, right?

Protests by their nature are disruptive. Disruption isn't cause to initiate violence at citizens. If you must remain quiet and meek to be kept from state violence, you have no right to protest.

Actually, the ACLU disagrees with you. Perhaps you are mistaking a street takeover for an actual protest:

Quote:

Your rights
  • Your rights are strongest in what are known as "traditional public forums," such as streets, sidewalks, and parks. You also likely have the right to speak out on other public property, like plazas in front of government buildings, as long as you are not blocking access to the government building or interfering with other purposes the property was designed for.
  • Private property owners can set rules for speech on their property. The government may not restrict your speech if it is taking place on your own property or with the consent of the property owner.
  • Counterprotesters also have free speech rights. Police must treat protesters and counterprotesters equally. Police are permitted to keep antagonistic groups separated but should allow them to be within sight and sound of one another.
  • When you are lawfully present in any public space, you have the right to photograph anything in plain view, including federal buildings and the police. On private property, the owner may set rules related to photography or video.
  • You don't need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don't obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. If you don't have a permit, police officers can ask you to move to the side of a street or sidewalk to let others pass or for safety reasons.
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights

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WCrew04 said:

Civilians getting hurt isn't limited to protesters or criminals, and basic rights don't disappear because someone is exercising them in a way you dislike. A system that only works safely if everyone stays silent and compliant is not a sign of strong law enforcement, it's a sign of something broken.


I believe you are using ai for your responses.

You dont have to stay silent. Few say that.

But theres a pretty big line at obstruction
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WCrew04 said:

Civilians getting hurt isn't limited to protesters or criminals, and basic rights don't disappear because someone is exercising them in a way you dislike. A system that only works safely if everyone stays silent and compliant is not a sign of strong law enforcement, it's a sign of something broken.

Local law enforcement being told to Stand Down by Demcorats in these cities is the sign that something is broken.
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Satellite of Love said:

HumbleAg04 said:

If a good shoot, if a bad shoot, the fact remains that person was there due to false claims of ICE kidnapping people and being "evil."

Let them do the job. It is a job that needs doing. There isn't a country in the world that lets anyone come in and do whatever they want and stay there.

This chaos is manufactured by people to empower their lies and themselves. They want more deaths so they can grandstand on socials and hold more inflammatory press conferences.

This thread and overall situation makes it very obvious how so many "good" people ignored what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s.


Ps. The people "protesting" aren't the good guys.

Exactly, here's a federal plant agitator. Notice how the van pulls up and surrounds the knocked over guy and is escorted to the getaway van casually? How would they know to surround him versus others in the little group?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qfol1e/they_are_planting_people/

Seems irrelevant in the video you posted but my guess is you're just looking for things to confirm a bias you already have. Were the "plants" instigating things like the guy put in the middle of the capitol crowd on January 6? Or were people trying to chase him down after they had already decided to commit some crimes against people they thought didn't look right?

Further to the point, are you admitting what that mob was doing was wrong, but that they wouldn't have done it if not for the "plant"? Inability to employ logic sometimes points to lower intelligence. You may want to do some self reflection to decide if you're really being honest with yourself and everyone around you.
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