Minneapolis getting Hot? [Staff Warning. Take Note]

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TAMUallen
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Remember how even MSM was publishing claims against ICE about how they detained a 5 year old?

We have truth and we have false narratives

Yall tell me... who are the bad guys? Who are the good guys upholding laws?
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BigRobSA said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

B-1 83 said:

Satellite of Love said:

Ag4life80 said:

Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

Not this crap again......... How many do they still have in custody that did nothing? How many total arrests have been made? While it certainly isn't good, %$#@ happens and regular cops do it on occasion, too, so it's not the horrible ICE issue you'd like to make it.


There's an American man from Venezuela who was deported to El Salvador for having a tattoo that would like to have a word with you.

That's horrible, if true.

But that's 1. With as many deportations as we've had....that's actually impressive, for govt work.

How many happened under Obama's deportation whirlwinds?

I'm pretty sure A4C was referring to Abrego Garcia, the "Maryland Man" who has MS-13 tattoos. Maybe he'll have a margarita with you while he's having that word...
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jrdaustin said:

BigRobSA said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:

B-1 83 said:

Satellite of Love said:

Ag4life80 said:

Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

Not this crap again......... How many do they still have in custody that did nothing? How many total arrests have been made? While it certainly isn't good, %$#@ happens and regular cops do it on occasion, too, so it's not the horrible ICE issue you'd like to make it.


There's an American man from Venezuela who was deported to El Salvador for having a tattoo that would like to have a word with you.

That's horrible, if true.

But that's 1. With as many deportations as we've had....that's actually impressive, for govt work.

How many happened under Obama's deportation whirlwinds?

I'm pretty sure A4C was referring to Abrego Garcia, the "Maryland Man" who has MS-13 tattoos. Maybe he'll have a margarita with you while he's having that word...

Oh, that ****tard. Yeah, good riddance to a non-citizen tard.
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If only the shooting officer had slo-mo video from multiple angles and thousands of manhours to analyze it.

Let's just all agree that the next time this happens - and it will because of all the cheerleaders and vultures - the cop can call timeout and everyone will stop resisting and freeze until the threat can be properly analyzed.

What? Protestors can do that aleady? Quick! Someone tell them!
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Rapier108 said:

FarmerFran said:

BigRobSA said:

FarmerFran said:

samurai_science said:

A woman with no weapon was shot, yet you hibernated.

Jan 6th was more peaceful than the Democrat riots after Floyd that were called peaceful by Democrats.


So you agree that ice shooting Renee good in the face should be tried as murder?

She was shot breaking into a government building while a violent riot was happening

She had a 4500lb weapon that she attacked an agent with and got face-shot for her attempt.


He shot her once when he was in danger and then shot her twice through the window in the head and the chest when he wasn't in any danger

100% Irrelevant.

Nothing says officers are only allowed to fire a single shot.

They are trained to shoot until the threat is stopped.


Exactly and when he's no longer in front of the car and in a place where he can be harmed he's not in danger! Not that he ever was actually in danger in the first place

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aggiehawg said:

Frankly, I can't see s*** one way or another from those videos. No opinion on this right now.

Same.
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This is an Sig Sauer P320 Custom Works 9mm (read: not actually custom, just more expensive off the rack marketing term package).

The P320 is also known as "the gun that goes off randomly when you didn't pull the trigger". This one has included in the package an Sig Sauer enclosed red dot, which is cheap Chinese trash with a horrible reputation branded with the Sig name, and a threaded barrel. The owner did not purchase a weapon light.

This reads to me as a gun purchased recently by someone who knows nothing about guns, perhaps in the last few weeks. No one competent would purchase a $1000+ defective pistol with a trash red dot and a threaded barrel that makes it longer that they don't intend on using at all.

Also notice the magazine, sig Sauer metal double stack magazines wear down with use from the black finish to silver metal on areas with friction through physical motion. This is a brand new magazine. Likely one of the two that came with the overpriced gun package.

The pistol ammo also appears to be Sig Sauer branded Elite defense 9mm hollowpoints in either 115gr 124gr or 147gr.

TLDR: Whoever got shot bought an overpriced defective sig gun with sig red dot and sig ammo, all at once, and I conclude they're someone who knows nothing about guns. Fits commie street agitator profile well.
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sam callahan said:

If only the shooting officer had slo-mo video from multiple angles and thousands of manhours to analyze it.

Let's just all agree that the next time this happens - and it will because of all the cheerleaders and vultures - the cop can call timeout and everyone will stop resisting and freeze until the threat can be properly analyzed.

What? Protestors can do that aleady? Quick! Someone tell them!


Problem is that no investigation will happen and we all know it. Noem and Trump have sewn ridiculous levels of distrust over their mishandling.
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Quote:

He shot her once when he was in danger and then shot her twice through the window in the head and the chest when he wasn't in any danger

"Yeah, this ***** just tried to run me over, but I am safe so the situation is over."
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FarmerFran said:

Rapier108 said:

FarmerFran said:

BigRobSA said:

FarmerFran said:

samurai_science said:

A woman with no weapon was shot, yet you hibernated.

Jan 6th was more peaceful than the Democrat riots after Floyd that were called peaceful by Democrats.


So you agree that ice shooting Renee good in the face should be tried as murder?

She was shot breaking into a government building while a violent riot was happening

She had a 4500lb weapon that she attacked an agent with and got face-shot for her attempt.


He shot her once when he was in danger and then shot her twice through the window in the head and the chest when he wasn't in any danger

100% Irrelevant.

Nothing says officers are only allowed to fire a single shot.

They are trained to shoot until the threat is stopped.


Exactly and when he's no longer in front of the car and in a place where he can be harmed he's not in danger! Not that he ever was actually in danger in the first place




Are you still in school?
Rapier108
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FarmerFran said:

Rapier108 said:

FarmerFran said:

BigRobSA said:

FarmerFran said:

samurai_science said:

A woman with no weapon was shot, yet you hibernated.

Jan 6th was more peaceful than the Democrat riots after Floyd that were called peaceful by Democrats.


So you agree that ice shooting Renee good in the face should be tried as murder?

She was shot breaking into a government building while a violent riot was happening

She had a 4500lb weapon that she attacked an agent with and got face-shot for her attempt.


He shot her once when he was in danger and then shot her twice through the window in the head and the chest when he wasn't in any danger

100% Irrelevant.

Nothing says officers are only allowed to fire a single shot.

They are trained to shoot until the threat is stopped.


Exactly and when he's no longer in front of the car and in a place where he can be harmed he's not in danger! Not that he ever was actually in danger in the first place

Dude, really. You leftists twist everything around.

She was still a threat, pure and simple. A vehicle is considered a deadly weapon under every state and federal law.
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sam callahan
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Problem is that no investigation will happen and we all know it. Noem and Trump have sewn ridiculous levels of distrust over their mishandling.


Distrust with people who are going to hate them no matter what.
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Satellite of Love said:

Logos Stick said:

Satellite of Love said:

samurai_science said:

Satellite of Love said:

HumbleAg04 said:

If a good shoot, if a bad shoot, the fact remains that person was there due to false claims of ICE kidnapping people and being "evil."

Let them do the job. It is a job that needs doing. There isn't a country in the world that lets anyone come in and do whatever they want and stay there.

This chaos is manufactured by people to empower their lies and themselves. They want more deaths so they can grandstand on socials and hold more inflammatory press conferences.

This thread and overall situation makes it very obvious how so many "good" people ignored what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s.


Ps. The people "protesting" aren't the good guys.

Exactly, here's a federal plant agitator. Notice how the van pulls up and surrounds the knocked over guy and is escorted to the getaway van casually? How would they know to surround him versus others in the little group?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qfol1e/they_are_planting_people/

Please stop with reddit

You basically 'please don't show us videos that go against our biases!!!!'

I don't care what the threads say over there. I'm referencing the videos. Sorry that hurts your feelings.


Today i learned - from Satellite of Love - that an LEO can't invade your space while attempting to secure an area where rioters/protestors are engaged in interrupting LEA operations. If the LEO does, you are allowed to physically assault that officer.

Someone should inform the January 6th protestors because many were imprisoned for doing just that.

Where did you get your law degree?

LoL

Yea you don't get it. Instead of deescalating the situation, the agent used his body to start shoving the man around. The camera man didn't assault that agent. He did put his body in between the other officer and the person he knocked over. Then put his hand up, was sprayed with pepper spray and thrown to the ground. ICE further escalated the situation and ended up killing the man

Keep that unwavering support of those poorly trained agents. I'm sure Trump and those guys will send you a signed Christmas card this year.

The fact you don't see the difference between the public area in Minnesota versus a closed off Capitol building is telling.


He pushed back on the officer. That's a crime. You can spin it however you want, but that's what happened. He could have deescalated by immediately leaving the area, which was an active LEA scene/operation. That area, just like the January 6th incident, was effectively closed. Yet your boy was guiding vehicles thru that area, trying to get ICE officers harmed. Your boys actions led to his death.

I have no pity and shed no tears for him, or those like you who support people like him. The lawlessness on your side is driving this country into the dirt. Protecting illegals and Somali scum who are ripping off taxpayers. Disgusting!
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FarmerFran said:

Rapier108 said:

100% Irrelevant.

Nothing says officers are only allowed to fire a single shot.

They are trained to shoot until the threat is stopped.


Exactly and when he's no longer in front of the car and in a place where he can be harmed he's not in danger! Not that he ever was actually in danger in the first place



Oh, good Lord.... Let me hit you with a Honda Pilot like she did. We'll see if you believe this idiotic tripe of "not actually in danger". Dafuq?!
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FarmerFran said:

sam callahan said:

If only the shooting officer had slo-mo video from multiple angles and thousands of manhours to analyze it.

Let's just all agree that the next time this happens - and it will because of all the cheerleaders and vultures - the cop can call timeout and everyone will stop resisting and freeze until the threat can be properly analyzed.

What? Protestors can do that aleady? Quick! Someone tell them!


Problem is that no investigation will happen and we all know it. Noem and Trump have sewn ridiculous levels of distrust over their mishandling.


Please just stop

This is happening because Democrat leaders and their MSM allies are sewing lies and propaganda to their idiot base. Telling them to actively interfere in law enforcement and that they can't arrest you and if you kill a ICE agent it's no worse than killing a Nazi on a WW2 video game

They WANT chaos and death
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Who?mikejones! said:

FarmerFran said:

BigRobSA said:

FarmerFran said:

samurai_science said:

A woman with no weapon was shot, yet you hibernated.

Jan 6th was more peaceful than the Democrat riots after Floyd that were called peaceful by Democrats.


So you agree that ice shooting Renee good in the face should be tried as murder?

She was shot breaking into a government building while a violent riot was happening

She had a 4500lb weapon that she attacked an agent with and got face-shot for her attempt.


He shot her once when he was in danger and then shot her twice through the window in the head and the chest when he wasn't in any danger


This is why were screwed


I blame Hollywood in general and Marvel in particular.
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Miller and bovino claiming he was out to assassinate and massacre law enforcement...

Ok.

So the federal government wants violence, clearly. No attempt to fact find first.
BigRobSA
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Squadron7 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

FarmerFran said:

BigRobSA said:

FarmerFran said:

samurai_science said:

A woman with no weapon was shot, yet you hibernated.

Jan 6th was more peaceful than the Democrat riots after Floyd that were called peaceful by Democrats.


So you agree that ice shooting Renee good in the face should be tried as murder?

She was shot breaking into a government building while a violent riot was happening

She had a 4500lb weapon that she attacked an agent with and got face-shot for her attempt.


He shot her once when he was in danger and then shot her twice through the window in the head and the chest when he wasn't in any danger


This is why were screwed


I blame Hollywood in general and Marvel in particular.

Nah, this is 100% on socialized/public schools. It's the known result of idiotic systems.
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ETFan said:

Miller and bovino claiming he was out to assassinate and massacre law enforcement...

Ok.

So the federal government wants violence, clearly. No attempt to fact find first.


You'll disappear and never speak of it again if facts emerge that verify those claims
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ETFan said:

Miller and bovino claiming he was out to assassinate and massacre law enforcement...

Ok.

So the federal government wants violence, clearly. No attempt to fact find first.


This coming from the party of "ZOMG ICE are NAZIS!!! Get in their face! Disrupt their activity! Get violent! They can't stop you! Doxx them and attack their families! They're not real cops! It's basically the Holocaust!"

Please just stop pretending to be the victims here
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Rapier108 said:

Sea Speed said:



Please tell me you actually didn't fall for that.


IDK maybe it's actually this guy.

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I admittedly have not read through the majority of this thread but has anyone suggested the first shot may have been an accidental discharge? Poor trigger control on a cold day- I know my fingers ain't working right outside today.
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95% of the world's problems come from miscommunication. When you're interacting with law enforcement, do everything you can to minimize the potential for miscommunication. That's just good risk management. As I told my son, in a traffic stop, whether you think you should have been stopped or not, hands on the wheel and turn the interior lights on if at night, and then don't move until the officer is at your window and can clearly see what you're doing.

This guy didn't do that. Who knows what happened? I can think of 100 possible reasons for why this might have gone sideways, but the guy miscommunicated his intent by not instantly submitting to LEO. Assuming the guy in gray was running off with the gun, did the other officers know that? Seems unreasonable to think they did in the heat of the struggle. Did the guy in gray shout, "I've got the gun!" But some agent, in the heat of the struggle just heard "gun," and fired in response?

At this point, none of us knows. But the only thing that matters legally is when the guy was non-compliant, did the officers act reasonably? Whether they had the right to engage in the first place is a completely different issue and not something that guy should have tried to litigate then. Again, poor risk management.

I don't believe Renee Good was trying to hit the officer that shot her, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say the officer could have interpreted it that way in the heat of the moment, from his viewpoint. Again, miscommunication of intent and poor risk management.
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ETFan said:

Miller and bovino claiming he was out to assassinate and massacre law enforcement...

Ok.

So the federal government wants violence, clearly. No attempt to fact find first.


Go to the court house if you want to protest. Interfering with law enforcement operations is illegal.

That is what Walz should tell those people. Stay away from ICE operations. Stop harassing them. Stop interfering.

He doesn't do that because he wants people killed so this thing gets escalated.
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TshirtVulture said:

I admittedly have not read through the majority of this thread but has anyone suggested the first shot may have been an accidental discharge? Poor trigger control on a cold day- I know my fingers ain't working right outside today.

Yes, that's come up.
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TAMUallen said:

ETFan said:

Miller and bovino claiming he was out to assassinate and massacre law enforcement...

Ok.

So the federal government wants violence, clearly. No attempt to fact find first.


You'll disappear and never speak of it again if facts emerge that verify those claims


What a weird argument. So they are lying, but if it turns out to be true I'm an idiot... or something.


Ok.
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one thing that might be possible is that if the deceased's gun had been taken away by one agent, other's didn't realize it. You do hear someone scream GUN.
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It would be different if the "protesters" interfering with ICE officers doing their job were breaking the law. Oh wait, they are committing a FELONY. If the dog **** local police would do their job, nobody would be getting shot
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Sea Speed said:

Rapier108 said:

Sea Speed said:



Please tell me you actually didn't fall for that.


IDK maybe it's actually this guy.




I have it on good authority the shooter was Tim Walz in a mask. Hey lefties, go hunt that guy down and do what you say you want to do to ICE agents.
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The video of the lady in pink is out. A bunch of people were going right up to ICE blowing whistles in their face and the guy was trying to get people in cars to start blocking ICE. They told him to move and he didn't so they pushed him out of the middle of the street. He resisted so they hit him with peperspray, he kept resisting and pulled a guy where he was able to get off a shot. Sounds like ICE responded with a half dozen of their own killing him.

Suicide by cop. Broke several laws and resisted
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Logos Stick said:

ETFan said:

Miller and bovino claiming he was out to assassinate and massacre law enforcement...

Ok.

So the federal government wants violence, clearly. No attempt to fact find first.


Go to the court house if you want to protest. Interfering with law enforcement operations is illegal.

That is what Walz should tell those people. Stay away from ICE operations. Stop harassing them. Stop interfering.

He doesn't do that because he wants people killed so this thing gets escalated.


No thanks, that's bootlicking bull****
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FarmerFran said:

sam callahan said:

If only the shooting officer had slo-mo video from multiple angles and thousands of manhours to analyze it.

Let's just all agree that the next time this happens - and it will because of all the cheerleaders and vultures - the cop can call timeout and everyone will stop resisting and freeze until the threat can be properly analyzed.

What? Protestors can do that aleady? Quick! Someone tell them!


Problem is that no investigation will happen and we all know it. Noem and Trump have sewn ridiculous levels of distrust over their mishandling.


You trust Frey and Waltz?
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The Unforgiven said:

one thing that might be possible is that if the deceased's gun had been taken away by one agent, other's didn't realize it. You do hear someone scream GUN.


possible? Sure


One thing is definite: If he wasn't out there, for no valid reason, "protesting" he'd be alive right now, ready to handle the next 12 he had to work. Or going to HyVee for their yummy chinese food.
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For the poster who didn't believe ICE was arresting US citizens. Here's another one:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-u-s-citizen-says-ice-forced-open-the-door-to-his-minnesota-home-and-removed-him-in-his-underwear-after-a-warrantless-search

This was the shirtless guy in blue shorts in Minneapolis. Is a US citizen. ICE busted down his door, no warrant. They refused to wait for his daughter to get his ID. Took him to the middle of nowhere for a picture, then returned him home after realizing he is a US citizen. No apology or anything.

I'm sure glad they captured this ::checks notes:: dangerous US citizens?
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