Minneapolis getting Hot? [Staff Warning. Take Note]

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nortex97 said:

Sorry if already posted:


Maybe this should be on a separate thread, as to funding for the riots/violence in MN? Jonny Sopotiuk is a Canadian (one of many) who seems to be heavily involved.


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Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.
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Rapier108 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Gaslight some more.

Notice how many of these 10-15+ year old accounts (most with usually around 50 posts) have appeared here since yesterday? Someone clearly has opened the sock drawer.


I'd posit the wives are going crazy watching CNN and the men of the house can only virtue signal for marital relations.
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B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Liberals will twist anything to incorrectly call conservatives hypocrites and fit whatever narrative they are trying to make. They are vile people.
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Username always appropriate.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

The Unforgiven said:

how do you do a background check on people coming from Somalia? They aren't known for keeping records, having great law enforcement and resources, and haven't produced anyone that has advanced civilization in ever. All they do is have wars and pirate ships.


They would have to build a reputation in a country that keeps records.


What if they don't want to do this and just come here anyway? What would we call these immigrants?

I have no problem with ICE stopping strangers at the border. What we need is a big wide open door that can be monitored and maybe ICE wouldn't have such a hard time keeping the border secure.

You have no idea what you're talking about; conflating the primary responsibilities of ICE with Border Patrol. As a legal immigrant to this country, your take on illegal immigration is farcical and not serious. Sit this one out and let the adults continue the conversation.
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MaxPower said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order
It's more nuanced than that. Putting 2A aside, anyone who actually conceal carries does so for self defense. A person concerned with self defense is concerned about their own safety (and those they care about). You know what those people do? Avoid the exact situation this person put himself in. While I have a permit and have carried in the past, if I were going to protest the law enforcement I would definitely not be carrying in that situation. What is your best case scenario? Going to shoot a cop or federal agent in self defense? So basically guaranteed long prison sentence. I think I will take my chances with not being armed if I think protesting is that important.


When I took my concealed carry course a long time ago our instructor emphasized a point. That is, when you are carrying, you have a special obligation to de-escalate conflicts. Harsh words can lead to a push or a shove and deadly consequences can result. Too bad Mr. Prettie didn't learn that lesson.
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Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

dmz233 said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

The Unforgiven said:

how do you do a background check on people coming from Somalia? They aren't known for keeping records, having great law enforcement and resources, and haven't produced anyone that has advanced civilization in ever. All they do is have wars and pirate ships.


They would have to build a reputation in a country that keeps records.


What if they don't want to do this and just come here anyway? What would we call these immigrants?

I have no problem with ICE stopping strangers at the border. What we need is a big wide open door that can be monitored and maybe ICE wouldn't have such a hard time keeping the border secure.


You didn't answer my question. I wonder why?

They would be illegal. What's your point?


That any process will result in illegals coming here because some countries simply don't have the means to document their citizens and their records. And it's often these are the most downtrodden societies, hence their people leaving.

So you have agreed these people would illegal and shouldn't be allowed here.

I agree. I also believe ICE shouldn't deport illegals who are already here and have demonstrated good citizenship.


They broke the law by being here illegally. Ergo they have not demonstrated good citizenship.


I think if the law is wrong or erroneous, breaking it doesn't make you a bad citizen. There are plenty of illegals who broke the law by crossing the border and have outstanding character. It doesn't define a person.

We would all do the same if given the opportunity.


What precisely is wrong or erroneous about borders and I'm
Immigration laws?

Are you one of those the world should just be one big "economic zone" people? At least you're honest and are saying immigration and borders are bunk not to be respected. Do you apply this belief consistently around the world? Or is it uniquely an American thing to have no immigration enforcement?
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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deddog said:

The Unforgiven said:

Sounds like you would make a good little Stalinist or Maoist.


You realize this poster is likely of Chinese origin right?

Not all Chinese fit that bill. I'm vehemently opposed to everything DarkBrandon is spewing (likely trolling or a bot)
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Taking the notion that Failure to ID is a capital offense in stride, was there a part of the video I didn't see where he was searched for his ID before he was shot? I really hope we're not suggesting the killing can go from justified to unjustified based on whether they were able to find the required ID on him after the fact.
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whether troll, bot, or actually ritaarded, it's not worth responding to that account. that goes for everyone; not just you.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

The Unforgiven said:

what would you tell Laken Riley?


I'D TELL HER I THINK ITS SAD THAT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HER MURDER IS BECAUSE OF THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERPETRATOR.


Applaud the death of an American citizen by an illegal alien. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
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bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Gaslight some more.

Notice how many of these 10-15+ year old accounts (most with usually around 50 posts) have appeared here since yesterday? Someone clearly has opened the sock drawer.


I'd posit the wives are going crazy watching CNN and the men of the house can only virtue signal for marital relations.


Many of them seem to have dusted off the old debate letter jacket, and take a side, even though they pulled the reasoning out of their ass just to hear themselves talk and or to try and piss posters here off. Been a long time since I've read stuff so ridiculous
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roycoy82 said:

What part is Whatever? The killing, the 2nd amendment trampling, the right to be out on the street, or just your lack of what seems to be common decency?

Please watch the videos of what unfolded and please tell us what you see wrong with his actions.






LOL. Clueless post is clueless.
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Rubicante said:

Taking the notion that Failure to ID is a capital offense in stride, was there a part of the video I didn't see where he was searched for his ID before he was shot? I really hope we're not suggesting the killing can go from justified to unjustified based on whether they were able to find the required ID on him after the fact.


Just one more in the list of crimes your martyr committed before he ultimately Found Out. Had he not committed any of those felonies he would still be alive so please stop acting like we need to feel sympathy
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Owlagdad said:

bobbranco said:

Rapier108 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Gaslight some more.

Notice how many of these 10-15+ year old accounts (most with usually around 50 posts) have appeared here since yesterday? Someone clearly has opened the sock drawer.


I'd posit the wives are going crazy watching CNN and the men of the house can only virtue signal for marital relations.


Many of them seem to have dusted off the old debate letter jacket, and take a side, even though they pulled the reasoning out of their ass just to hear themselves talk and or to try and piss posters here off. Been a long time since I've read stuff so ridiculous


Nah. It's, 'See honey, I agree with you and posted that I agree with you on TexAgs."
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The 2A doesn't allow you to avoid local, state and federal laws. HTH
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BenFiasco14 said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

dmz233 said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

The Unforgiven said:

how do you do a background check on people coming from Somalia? They aren't known for keeping records, having great law enforcement and resources, and haven't produced anyone that has advanced civilization in ever. All they do is have wars and pirate ships.


They would have to build a reputation in a country that keeps records.


What if they don't want to do this and just come here anyway? What would we call these immigrants?

I have no problem with ICE stopping strangers at the border. What we need is a big wide open door that can be monitored and maybe ICE wouldn't have such a hard time keeping the border secure.


You didn't answer my question. I wonder why?

They would be illegal. What's your point?


That any process will result in illegals coming here because some countries simply don't have the means to document their citizens and their records. And it's often these are the most downtrodden societies, hence their people leaving.

So you have agreed these people would illegal and shouldn't be allowed here.

I agree. I also believe ICE shouldn't deport illegals who are already here and have demonstrated good citizenship.


They broke the law by being here illegally. Ergo they have not demonstrated good citizenship.


I think if the law is wrong or erroneous, breaking it doesn't make you a bad citizen. There are plenty of illegals who broke the law by crossing the border and have outstanding character. It doesn't define a person.

We would all do the same if given the opportunity.


What precisely is wrong or erroneous about borders and I'm
Immigration laws?

Are you one of those the world should just be one big "economic zone" people? At least you're honest and are saying immigration and borders are bunk not to be respected. Do you apply this belief consistently around the world? Or is it uniquely an American thing to have no immigration enforcement?


Something tells me he only cares that majority white countries have open borders.
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MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


Good as its gotten to be to be too much for Bovino to handle.
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MaxPower said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

It's more nuanced than that. Putting 2A aside, anyone who actually conceal carries does so for self defense. A person concerned with self defense is concerned about their own safety (and those they care about). You know what those people do? Avoid the exact situation this person put himself in. While I have a permit and have carried in the past, if I were going to protest the law enforcement I would definitely not be carrying in that situation. What is your best case scenario? Going to shoot a cop or federal agent in self defense? So basically guaranteed long prison sentence. I think I will take my chances with not being armed if I think protesting is that important.


THIS

Certainly he had a right to carry. I support that. 100% (well I don't know MN law but in general)

But he tripled down on stupid:
  • going to intentionally agitate a LE action (or gov agency action, whatever)
  • while armed
  • and not following instructions
Yet he still could have lived if he simply yielded, identified he was carrying with hands up and not resisting.

He chose poorly over and over again.

PLAY STUPID GAMES, WIN STUPID PRIZES


And the "it could have been you" stuff is BS. No it could not. Because I would never put myself in that situation. And if I found myself completely randomly in a situation and I happened to be armed. It still wouldn't end with me dead because I'm not a dumbass.

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Now i'm not just on the side of illegal immigration and child rape, but he is my martyr.

I wonder what other insights I'll find out from MAGA liberals today.
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B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.
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samurai_science said:




Reports are he scrubbed his social media before heading out with a pistol to resist and commit suicide by cop. Death for his Marxist cause was obviously his plan.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

Teslag said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

The Unforgiven said:

how do you do a background check on people coming from Somalia? They aren't known for keeping records, having great law enforcement and resources, and haven't produced anyone that has advanced civilization in ever. All they do is have wars and pirate ships.


They would have to build a reputation in a country that keeps records.


What if they don't want to do this and just come here anyway? What would we call these immigrants?

I have no problem with ICE stopping strangers at the border. What we need is a big wide open door that can be monitored and maybe ICE wouldn't have such a hard time keeping the border secure.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you with "Exhibit A" of how clueless most leftists are when it comes to Customs, Border Patrol, and ICE and what each one does. And to think, there are morons in Congress and on this very board that want to defund all of DHS.
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ETFan said:

B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

Apparently he was not carrying any ID (as required). How can any reasonable person think those agents just decided to shoot him with zero reason?
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ETFan said:

B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.


Again ... who was murdered? And who murdered him? And why is that person now allowed due process before being called a murderer?

I know you are all about due process for Americans ...
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B-1 83 said:

ETFan said:

B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

Apparently he was not carrying any ID (as required). How can any reasonable person think those agents just decided to shoot him with zero reason?



The same poster you are responding keeps using the term "murder" when no one has even been charged with a crime. He's not reasonable.
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ETFan said:

B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.


Don't interfere with federal officers. It's pretty simple.

This guy made the decision to be a professional instigator. His choice, his loss
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Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order
You keep posting articles that aren't news. They are biased commentary that is factually incorrect.

Let me help you with some basic facts. The 2A gives you the right to legally carry. It does not make every instance in which you carry legal.

You well know that this has been discussed ad nauseum on this very forum, that Pretti's lack of having ID on his person and failure to notify law enforcement that he was armed while he interfered with their legal actions took him out of legal protections of the 2A.

Biased gaslighting by your favorite NBC activist notwithstanding. Try harder.
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Danny Vermin said:

I'm not sure which page it was posted on this thread but we got one.




She has been eating those MN National Guard donuts.
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BlackLab said:




Staff, delete or revise if necessary but it seemed important to share Eric Schwalm's tweet since it would be lost in the shuffle as he's replying to a tweet we've seen numerous times

Quote:

As a former Special Forces Warrant Officer with multiple rotations running counterinsurgency opsboth hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from sympathetic populationsI've seen organized resistance up close. From Anbar to Helmand, the pattern is familiar: spotters, cutouts, dead drops (or modern equivalents), disciplined comms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly.

What's unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn't "protest." It's low-level insurgency infrastructure, built by people who've clearly studied the playbook.

Signal groups at 1,000-member cap per zone. Dedicated roles: mobile chasers, plate checkers logging vehicle data into shared databases, 24/7 dispatch nodes vectoring assets, SALUTE-style reporting (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, Equipment) on suspected federal vehicles. Daily chat rotations and timed deletions to frustrate forensic recovery. Vetting processes for new joiners. Mutual aid from sympathetic locals (teachers providing cover, possible PD tip-offs on license plate lookups). Home-base coordination points. Rapid escalation from observation to physical obstructionor worse.

This isn't spontaneous outrage. This is C2 (command and control) with redundancy, OPSEC hygiene, and task organization that would make a SF team sergeant nod in recognition. Replace "ICE agents" with "occupying coalition forces" and the structure maps almost 1:1 to early-stage urban cells we hunted in the mid-2000s.

The most sobering part? It's domestic. Funded, trained (somewhere), and directed by people who live in the same country they're trying to paralyze law enforcement in. When your own citizens build and operate this level of parallel intelligence and rapid-response network against federal officerscomplete with doxxing, vehicle pursuits, and harassment that's already turned lethalyou're no longer dealing with civil disobedience. You're facing a distributed resistance that's learned the lessons of successful insurgencies: stay below the kinetic threshold most of the time, force over-reaction when possible, maintain popular support through narrative, and never present a single center of gravity.

I spent years training partner forces to dismantle exactly this kind of apparatus. Now pieces of it are standing up in American cities, enabled by elements of local government and civil society. That should keep every thinking American awake at night.

Not because I want escalation. But because history shows these things don't de-escalate on their own once the infrastructure exists and the cadre believe they're winning the information war.

We either recognize what we're actually looking ator we pretend it's still just "activism" until the structures harden and spread.

Your call, America. But from where I sit, this isn't January 2026 politics anymore.
It's phase one of something we've spent decades trying to keep off our own soil.
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akm91 said:

deddog said:

The Unforgiven said:

Sounds like you would make a good little Stalinist or Maoist.


You realize this poster is likely of Chinese origin right?

Not all Chinese fit that bill. I'm vehemently opposed to everything DarkBrandon is spewing (likely trolling or a bot)

Ha. You want to find the most ardent opponents of socialism/communism: Its those that once lived existed under it.

Literately every nation that has tried this crap put 90% of the population in poverty, tyranny, then serfdom. That remaining 10% became the plantation owners. Just ask Stalin, Mao the those other collectivist mass murders that currently reside in hell.

Absolutely amazing how anyone can buy into this garbage in 1990 or 2000, or 2010, or 2020 hell even 2090. The historical record is crystal clear. You have to be a total moron to buy into this envy driven insanity. And its clear this nation has lot of morons. Many of which are clustered in universities. Now isn't that the most insane paradox in the last 500 years?

"Educated" idiots that place long discredited idealism over human nature, history, and economics. The disconnect simply defies logic and history. IT truly is some sort of moral or mental disease that defies explanation.

Personally I have ZERO tolerance to anyone that believes this filth much less tries to force it on others. Just unreal what's happening in this country.
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I'm not advocating illegals by any means but I'm just wondering how many pointing fingers in this thread actually have an illegal or two on the crew mowing their yard. We'll never know but I bet the answer is yes. Unless all of these legal Texas Mexicans just don't speak English. I think it would be hilarious if a lot of these fat ass home owners actually had to mow their own lawn.
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