Minneapolis getting Hot? [Staff Warning. Take Note]

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Teslag said:

WTF is a "military style pistol"?

1) Has to be tan or black

2) Must have at least 1 manufacturing or design issue so that users can blame the gun when they have an accidental discharge.


So pretty much no pink Glocks.
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New talking point downloaded.
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Ag87H2O said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"

This is what we call taking the fight to the enemy. Homan will get it done.




Doesn't sound like it.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"
Or, perhaps it's a simple answer to a targeted question seeking to find a ***** in the armor.

Seeing as it comes from Reuters, I have a pretty good idea which it is
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K2-HMFIC said:

Ag87H2O said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"

This is what we call taking the fight to the enemy. Homan will get it done.




Doesn't sound like it.


He spoke with 6, out of tens of thousands, who the F cares. The VOTERS are down with the deportations.
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6 whole sources?
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samurai_science said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Ag87H2O said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"

This is what we call taking the fight to the enemy. Homan will get it done.




Doesn't sound like it.


He spoke with 6, out of tens of thousands, who the F cares. The VOTERS are down with the deportations.



That doesn't look like it either…Trump's immigration approval numbers have cratered…


See this Rasmussen (!) Poll


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K2-HMFIC said:

samurai_science said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Ag87H2O said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"

This is what we call taking the fight to the enemy. Homan will get it done.




Doesn't sound like it.


He spoke with 6, out of tens of thousands, who the F cares. The VOTERS are down with the deportations.



That doesn't look like it either…Trump's immigration approval numbers have cratered…


See this Rasmussen (!) Poll




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Homan is going to Minnesota to get a handle on this. He was in direct conflict with Noem about how ICE was doing things.
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Charpie said:

Homan is going to Minnesota to get a handle on this. He was in direct conflict with Noem about how ICE was doing things.

There is nothing to get a handle on, Democrats need to enforce the law and quit funding the agitators.
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samurai_science said:




Your proving my point…his numbers have gone bad on immigration
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LEGAL vs ILLEGAL
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Tourism hasn't lined Jacob Frey's pockets like the massive theft and fraud schemes have. Frey and Walz need third workers to vote illegally and steal us blind so they can get their cut and have all this power.
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K2-HMFIC said:


Your proving my point…his numbers have gone bad on immigration

Nope,
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It does not matter, the deportations will continue. Its what the voters wanted and voted for
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Not surprised that Obama simps abound. Explains our former A&M president and the rot within the military.
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Walton is a radical Bernie bro. He's here with new talking points.

These people will stop at nothing to gain power. It doesn't matter how many Americans die, China Tim Walz and all these Marxists will make this as dangerous and violent as possible to keep illegals here. They want the votes Americans won't give them.
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MaxPower said:

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Hypocrisy of the highest order
It's more nuanced than that. Putting 2A aside, anyone who actually conceal carries does so for self defense. A person concerned with self defense is concerned about their own safety (and those they care about). You know what those people do? Avoid the exact situation this person put himself in. While I have a permit and have carried in the past, if I were going to protest the law enforcement I would definitely not be carrying in that situation. What is your best case scenario? Going to shoot a cop or federal agent in self defense? So basically guaranteed long prison sentence. I think I will take my chances with not being armed if I think protesting is that important.


What many may be overlooking is that these protestors on the left don't anticipate confronting solely Law Enforcement, but also counter protestors on the right who have consistently shown up to protests armed, particularly in open carry states. Context matters as we evaluate these incidents, and before we come to conclusions we should consider all relevant aspects.

If we consider that those on the left have been exposed to images of those on the right attending these demonstrations armed, and they wish to be equally heeled in order to avoid intimidation from counter protesters who are armed, ie non law enforcement, it becomes a little more challenging to conclude that the only reason Pretti was armed was because he wanted trouble with LEOs.

I agree it's stupid to take a weapon into confrontation with a cop, and I certainly wouldn't trust a P320 as my carry, but I've reviewed the videos and haven't seen Pretti actively resisting the agents, and at this point think we had a volatile situation where a negligent discharge likely contributed to his being killed.

That being said, if self-defense is a priority, and one expects to encounter not only LEOs, but also counter protesters who might be armed, I can understand why the guy was carrying.
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I know that I shouldn't, but I sometimes chuckle when I hear them yelling 'medic'. Other posts on Twitter say she was hit in the hand with a non-lethal round.

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jteAg said:

B-1 83 said:

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B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

Apparently he was not carrying any ID (as required). How can any reasonable person think those agents just decided to shoot him with zero reason?


please, all on here saying he had no ID...after watching the video's, when was he ASKED to produce an ID?, was it before he went to help the woman pushed down by it ICE officer, was it while he was being maced, was it while he had 6 ICE officers on top of him, hitting him with some kind of metal object, was it after the dude takes his weapon, was it before he was shot 10 times... when???

Nobody is saying that he was killed or arrested for not showing his ID. They are pushing back against the "innocent law abiding gun owner killed by vicious out of control ICE fascists narrative" by pointing out that he was not law abiding because he was not carrying ID as required by MN law for licensed carry. Not carrying ID is a common antifa tactic to make it harder for law enforcement to determine who they are dealing with when detaining or arresting somebody. It has been established that he was out there as part of an extremely organized group attempting to disrupt ICE operations, which is a felony. While it appears that it was a tragic situation in which the ND of his gun after it was taken away from him that triggered the shooting, he put himself in that position by breaking the law and interfering with ICE carrying out otherwise lawful operations in Minneapolis.

You can now go back to pretending to not understand minor details about the story so as not to have to confront the central reality that if he and Renee Good had stayed home or gone to work instead of trying to get in the middle of a legal law enforcement operation, they would both be alive right now.
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K2-HMFIC said:

samurai_science said:




Your proving my point…his numbers have gone bad on immigration

What a poorly worded question as it is ambiguous as to whether it is referring to legal or illegal immigration. Who writes questions such as this one?
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Dumbasses took to heart "Go play in traffic."
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Thankfully, Pretti only got himself killed. Maybe the violent protestors will reconsider their poor choices.
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K2-HMFIC said:

samurai_science said:




Your proving my point…his numbers have gone bad on immigration

Now go show the poll numbers about deporting illegal immigrants and you will see the difference between opinions about immigrants vs opinions about illegal immigrants.
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aggiehawg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

samurai_science said:




Your proving my point…his numbers have gone bad on immigration

What a poorly worded question as it is ambiguous as to whether it is referring to legal or illegal immigration. Who writes questions such as this one?

It's done on purpose to produce the results they want. Notice they didn't ask "are you in favor of deporting illegal aliens who have committed crimes in either this country or their country of origin?"
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MemphisAg1 said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

They need to manage the narrative to separate it into at least a couple issues.

1. The shooting -- acknowledge an investigation is underway, as is the case for any shooting. They won't pre-judge the outcome until all of the facts have been collected and considered. They'll report the findings after it's been fully pressure-tested. Internet and X sound bites won't be the measuring stick. Thoughtful, objective consideration will be the path.

2. Federal law enforcement -- they need to vigorously remind the public they are in MN -- and all other US states -- to enforce federal immigration law and won't slow down one bit. They also need to call out the clear incitement by the Governor and mayor to whip extreme leftists into a rage that just makes the situation much worse. They should also acknowledge that US citizens have the right to protest peacefully, but interfering with federal agents in the execution of their job is a crime and will be dealt with accordingly.


This is a great post. I applaud this. Thank you.

I would add that the general public watching this should also refrain from passing judgement and furthering reckless rhetoric. It's best to rest assured that another investigation will reveal any wrongdoing. It is also advisable to acknowledge that something more sinister is going on with the organized effort to antagonize and interfere with the federal agencies' work. I hope well meaning Americans see this and keep a clear object view.
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Totally Agree!

It's not that he had a firearm at a "protest", it's not that he had multiple magazines, those details aren't the issue. The issue is, he was not there to peacefully "protest", we see that objectively in his actions in the videos. He obstructed, interfered with, and fought with Federal agents.

The details about the firearm and magazines are details that support the objective fact, he was there to break the law by interfering with Federal agents doing their job, he was armed while committing crimes, and while committing crimes of obstructing and fighting with Federal agents he had the forethought to make himself capable of committing grave bodily harm and possible death to Federal agents, and others, while committing crimes.

The 2A does not include being armed while committing crimes, nor do 2A advocates defend being armed while committing crimes. The first mistake by the man was when he made the choice to commit crimes rather than remain at a safe distance and ONLY peacefully protest. Had he chosen to only peacefully protest he would still be alive, being armed and the quantity of magazines is secondary and irrelevant.
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aggiehawg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

samurai_science said:




Your proving my point…his numbers have gone bad on immigration

What a poorly worded question as it is ambiguous as to whether it is referring to legal or illegal immigration. Who writes questions such as this one?

As a former political data analyst, including polling data. People that want their poll to have a particular result to drive a mass media narrative will write questions like this. Push polling is a practice adopted from business marketing gurus by the political polling class for the purpose of mass manipulation. No real data scientist trying to find out what people really believe would ever allow a question like this to be used.

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StandUpforAmerica said:

I know that I shouldn't, but I sometimes chuckle when I hear them yelling 'medic'. Other posts on Twitter say she was hit in the hand with a non-lethal round.



I would give her five good reasons, no 3 good reasons, wait, 1 good reason why not to pick up a flash bang before it goes off.

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K2-HMFIC said:

samurai_science said:




Your proving my point…his numbers have gone bad on immigration

So I guess you are all in on the short term propaganda gains made by the demrats, I mean socialist.. Dont worry 3rd worlders are going to continue doing 3rd world things -- such as mass Somali fraud.. But thats ok with the left, its why Biden let them in in mass.

If Trump is smart he and his allies simply have to remind idiots with bad memories how we got here. With the lib tards opening the flood gates while a lot of America were locked down.

To anyone with a brain it should be easy to counter.
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Yep, these polls are written by hacks and have no interest to know how people really feel about the crack down on illegal immigration.

It is not a coincidence that dems continually conflate illegal and legal immigration policy under the term immigration policy.
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jrdaustin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"
Or, perhaps it's a simple answer to a targeted question seeking to find a ***** in the armor.

Seeing as it comes from Reuters, I have a pretty good idea which it is



Wasn't there a Reuters reporter found within one of the Signal chats?!
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You're dealing with hard core brainwashed leftists. They're only gonna believe what they're told to believe. They can't open their eyes or think for themselves.
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