Minneapolis getting Hot? [Staff Warning. Take Note]

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Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.

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B-1 83 said:

Burdizzo said:

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Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

Apparently he was not carrying any ID (as required). How can any reasonable person think those agents just decided to shoot him with zero reason?



Don't need ID to vote

Don't need ID when carrying a firearm.

This is encouraging anarchy with the end game of institutionalizing authoritarianism. These people are baiting the police into making them look bad so that they can install a new form of government.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Minnesota law require it as part of concealed carry? If so, why did he not do it?


Based on what I've read, they are being told to not carry ID by the organizers of the riots. That way, if arrested by ICE, they are less likely to be found after released. They can use facial rec but its more time consuming and difficult and less likely to happen.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Regarding Pretti, I think this sums up his weekend succinctly.




Maybe I haven't seen it, but after the past 2 weeks there is a Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm meme opportunity .
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safety guy said:

docb said:

I'm not advocating illegals by any means but I'm just wondering how many pointing fingers in this thread actually have an illegal or two on the crew mowing their yard. We'll never know but I bet the answer is yes. Unless all of these legal Texas Mexicans just don't speak English. I think it would be hilarious if a lot of these fat ass home owners actually had to mow their own lawn.


Two separate issues. Of course, there are illegals all over the place and many are productive. The problem is that the previous administration allowed for the border to be so wide open, no telling who came thru. So we need a correction of that as that is the issue. But the ultimate answer is true immigration reform, something that we just have been unable to do.

I do my own yard work and can pour concrete in a pinch. I can also wash dishes.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

jteAg said:

please, all on here saying he had no ID...after watching the video's, when was he ASKED to produce an ID?, was it before he went to help the woman pushed down by it ICE officer, was it while he was being maced, was it while he had 6 ICE officers on top of him, hitting him with some kind of metal object, was it after the dude takes his weapon, was it before he was shot 10 times... when???

While I think it's an ancillary discussion point, the point I believe they are making is that if this is true (we really don't know it for a fact yet) it just shows he is making a number of questionable decisions along the path to his death.

Hes a paid agitator, and this entire situation is created by Democrats. Hes also out trying to disrupt the deportations of illegals who have assaulted, raped, and murdered Americans. F HIM


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B-1 83 said:

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Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

Apparently he was not carrying any ID (as required). How can any reasonable person think those agents just decided to shoot him with zero reason?



Don't need ID to vote

Don't need ID when carrying a firearm.

This is encouraging anarchy with the end game of institutionalizing authoritarianism. These people are baiting the police into making them look bad so that they can install a new form of government.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Minnesota law require it as part of concealed carry? If so, why did he not do it?



Based on the internet chatter, I understand Minnesota has the requirement when carrying. Point being, it disrupts the leftist narrative to point out that he was breaking that law. The other point being is that it is ironic that, according to them, you don't need an ID to exercise your right to representation (voting), but the state is also imposing an ID requirement to exercise your rights under the Second Amendment. They are curiously silent on that.
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Deerdude said:

ICE should be bouncing around more frequently I think. Keep the traveling hordes of protesters on the move. If nothing else the additional transportation costs should be hurting the financiers of this opposition.

Stay put until they have forced the cock roaches out where they can be arrested and sent to prison
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.



That would be awesome.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

The only thing that concerns me about immigration policy is if it makes America better or worse. I believe the it makes our country better. If you can find me data that suggests immigration makes our country more dangerous or worse economically, I will gladly change my position.

What part of millions of illegals causing housing prices to skyrocket, depressing wages for Americans who can't really afford to see their wages drop, overburdening both our healthcare and educational systems, and increased crime are the ones you support?
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Look here at the pics of pretti yelling at law enforcement before the incident. At this point he should have told the agent he had a gun. He had an interaction with them before things went out of control. He had a responsibility to tell the agent right there.

But he was too busy trying to be a tough guy and intimidate the agent.

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"
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SIAP but this tweet breaks down the time leading up to Pretti's death and the organization that he was participating in. Both the text and video of high quality and important to see to understand what is actually occurring in the form of an actual insurgency

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policywonk98 said:

RangerRick9211 said:

The Unforgiven said:

do you know what had happened the hour before that video of the altercation? Do you wonder why the protestors aren't showing any video before that time? Selective editing to make their side look better.


Ugh, samsies?

Go on. Link the facts then. The hour before. Link it.


The protestors are the ones present and interfering with law enforcement with their camera phones out. That's the point. Ask the people organizing these paid interference groups to post up all their video footage for us to take a look at instead of just the 1-2 minutes of video that shows law enforcement reacting to the interference.

It's not the law enforcement showing up to a protest, it's the other way around. The paid interference groups masquerading as protestors are showing up to law enforcement activities. Apparently they are showing up to diners, gas stations, churches, and hotels suspected of serving paying customers and parishioners these paid interference groups believe are associated with law enforcement personnel doing their jobs. It's not law enforcement creating the chaos, it's the people organizing these interference groups.


Clarification.

The sanctuary city, non-existent local police presence, and possible local law enforcement enabling rioters against federal police officers cannot be ignored.
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2000AgPhD said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

The only thing that concerns me about immigration policy is if it makes America better or worse. I believe the it makes our country better. If you can find me data that suggests immigration makes our country more dangerous or worse economically, I will gladly change my position.

What part of millions of illegals causing housing prices to skyrocket, depressing wages for Americans who can't really afford to see their wages drop, overburdening both our healthcare and educational systems, and increased crime are the ones you support?


He's deliberately conflating illegal immigration with legal immigration. It's dishonest.

Legal immigration which allows for law abiding, hard working people to join our country is a good thing.
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ETFan said:

B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

It wasn't murder. He resisted arrest and tried to fight off the ICE agents instead of complying. It was a volatile situation and he decided to escalate it by getting into a physical confrontation, knowing he had a loaded gun on his person.

Never put law enforcement into a position where they have to make a snap judgement, especially when they are already in a difficult situation themselves. It's a recipe for bad things to happen. There were a hundred ways this whole thing would not have happened, but this guy made his choices and created the perfect storm that ended up taking him to his grave.
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Someone should ask that idiot jacob frey what tourism numbers to MSP look like now and the near future.

What a **** hole.
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Look at the pics in this tweet. Pretti was face to face yelling at the agent and trying to be a tough guy. He was having an interaction with an agent. At this time he should have told the agent he was carrying. That is his responsibility while carrying.

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chase128 said:

2000AgPhD said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

The only thing that concerns me about immigration policy is if it makes America better or worse. I believe the it makes our country better. If you can find me data that suggests immigration makes our country more dangerous or worse economically, I will gladly change my position.

What part of millions of illegals causing housing prices to skyrocket, depressing wages for Americans who can't really afford to see their wages drop, overburdening both our healthcare and educational systems, and increased crime are the ones you support?


He's deliberately conflating illegal immigration with legal immigration. It's dishonest.

Legal immigration which allows for law abiding, hard working people to join our country is a good thing.

Correct. He's a known communist who is pro-open borders. He's been asked numerous times to answer the simple question if he thinks illegals should be deported and never answers.

He's the biggest troll on this board, currently.
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jteAg said:

please, all on here saying he had no ID...after watching the video's, when was he ASKED to produce an ID?, was it before he went to help the woman pushed down by it ICE officer, was it while he was being maced, was it while he had 6 ICE officers on top of him, hitting him with some kind of metal object, was it after the dude takes his weapon, was it before he was shot 10 times... when???


All concealed carry license holders are instructed to notify police that they carry. It's a life saver.

Pretti did not follow normal protocol, acted the fool, and suffered the consequences.
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The Unforgiven said:

Look here at the pics of pretti yelling at law enforcement before the incident. At this point he should have told the agent he had a gun. He had an interaction with them before things went out of control. He had a responsibility to tell the agent right there.

But he was too busy trying to be a tough guy and intimidate the agent.



This is the photo I was referencing in my post way back, if you open it up and look at the specific photo, I believe it is very apparent that Pretti is being the aggressor here. Look at the stance he has, LEO has his hand out holding him back, Pretti's stance is pressing forward. LEO stance is more defensive.

This did escalate the situation because LEO had already interacted with him when we was inserting himself into their investigation. If you have a beef with how ICE handled it, address this photo honestly. I would bet the ICE officer had his eye on him and then he's in the street and getting involved in the future melee.

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TAMUallen said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.




including military...

Homan will flood the zone.
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No one should have to work to survive. Your right to life should not depend solely on your ability to produce capital.
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ETFan said:

B-1 83 said:

Aggie4Christ09 said:



Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

How long had he been there harassing officers? Had he been asked to ID himself before the video you saw? Did he have other confrontations with agents earlier that day?

Or are you assuming he had just arrived to the party, walked up to help an innocent lady, then was murdered in cold blood within 30 seconds of his arrival?

My bet is he had been there for some time, had been threatening, had been stirring the pot, finally pushed things too far, received pepper spray, fought back, was being detained, somehow someone's gun went off on accident, and after that first accidental shot, the officers started shooting him, assuming he was a threat due to how he had been acting and fighting them (and knowing he had been armed).

I've watched the video multiple times at multiple angles. There is a lot going on there that is hard to see. Yes, he had been disarmed about 1-2 seconds before that first shot, but in the heat of the moment, with everyone fighting and trying to get him down, I guarantee you not half of the officers saw and knew that another officer had disarmed him. They were in a struggle, heard a shot, then reacted. It's clear that there is a pause between the first shot and the following repeated shots once officers reacted and unholstered their weapons.

This was all accidental, and occurred 100% due to the actions of the guy you're trying to martyr. 1) don't show up and harass agents, 2) if you protest, actually protest peacefully, 3) don't bring a gun unless you intent to use it, 4) once things start to turn bad, don't struggle, don't reach for your weapon, don't fight back, don't resist arrest unless you intend to fight or kill your way out of the situation you're in.
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WTF is a "military style pistol"?
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K2-HMFIC said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Burdizzo said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump is sending Tom Homan to Minnesota to manage ICE.

Get your popcorn ready.


From a pragmatic perspective, I like Homan. From a PR perspective, I see nothing positive coming from this. This is just more gasoline on the fire.

He needs to wear the medal Barack put on him like Flavor Flav. Street and Dem cred.






This is what we call a "Vote of Confidence"

This is what we call taking the fight to the enemy. Homan will get it done.
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What is a "military style pistol"?
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Exactly the same thing as a "military-style rifle" - nonsense said by fear-mongering tyrants who think the 2A has any semblance of an asterisk included with it.
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I think the poster there was mocking the "vote of confidence". Maybe not, but that's how I perceive it.

He wants Noem and Trump to fail.

Trump has who he wants in the 2.0 admin. He's not changing a horse plus he knows he is pardoning all these cats regardless, so who cares who they piss off along the way.

This is the war Dems asked for, begged for, tried to kill Trump for. Time to give it to them.
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WaltonAg18 said:

Exactly the same thing as a "military-style rifle" - nonsense said by fear-mongering tyrants who think the 2A has any semblance of an asterisk included with it.

Figured it was something prone to jamming or misfire if it was standard military issue.
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Homan coming to lead operations on the ground in Minn.....Antifa about to FAFO....

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flown-the-coop said:

WaltonAg18 said:

Exactly the same thing as a "military-style rifle" - nonsense said by fear-mongering tyrants who think the 2A has any semblance of an asterisk included with it.

Figured it was something prone to jamming or misfire if it was standard military issue.

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flown-the-coop said:

What is a "military style pistol"?

If you don't need to load the powder, wadding, and ball into the barrel and fires only a single shot (great for duels), it's one of them military style pistols the founding fathers never intended anyone but special forces to own.
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NBC News? Are they in the Signal chats, too? What does the CCP think about the second amendment?
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Wow check out this dude's sig. No one should have to work to survive. Your right to life should not depend solely on your ability to produce capital.

"No one should have to work to survive" WTF! Tells you all you need to know.
True commies have entered the chat.

Note: I am simply posting whats on his handle. And it is relevant to the thread displaying the mentality and politics of posters.
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