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Bingo. The threat was not neutralized. She endangered every person on that street cop or no cop. She decided to turn her vehicle into an assault weapon and the rest is history. Really is terrible. But pretty cut and dry. Does that mean we will not see this challenged? Of course not.

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But that is also hindsight. This could have happened, that could have happened. But the only inquiry is what did the officer know in the moment? And how would a reasonable officer react knowing just that?

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IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.

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I think the arguement would be that once the officer was on the side of a car moving the opposite direction, the threat had stopped.

Of course, we see mag dumps all the time when suspects are armed or are assaulting a cop....fire away. Or firing over the hood like the ICE agents initial shots.

The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?

Im not excusing the crazy lib. But if the 3rd shot killed her, I dont think its as cut and dry as yall think.

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Yes it is. I posted a thread with all the case law.

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Thank God idiot Crockett chimed in......

🚨 JUST IN: Rep. Jasmine Crockett faces mass calls to RESIGN after she just called ICE "SLAVE PATROLS"

"Y'all never let the fact that I am black go! So, I'm gon' be clear 'bout one thing, I know my good black history! This looks like modern-day SLAVE PATROLS!"

RESIGN. pic.twitter.com/Tprr8nNX6s

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 16, 2026

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Ghetto Jazzy is the best Jazzy. Word.

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She's right.

Democrats use illegals as their slaves.
And if there's anything you learn from American history, it's that Democrats resort to violence when you take away their slaves.

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I would extend a little bit of grace and benefit of the doubt to any human in that situation who may take one extra shot in an event like that.

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Yeah, thats where a jury comes in to determine if the "extra shot" fits the letter of the law.

I just try to be consistent. The Mesa PD cop went too far shooting Daniel Shaver claiming he was "reaching for a gun". You probably didnt extend grace with those shots. Many also didnt extend grace to Byrd for shooting Babbot.

So thats my point. The left being totally irrational and incapable of objective reason is irrelevant.

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Yep, and this is why you could not pay me to be a cop in today's world. Rapid fire in a split second life or death situation and a bunch of liberals or soccer moms who have never even held a gun, but have always been told how evil guns (and ICE) are, determine your fate. Hard pass.

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Police will fire until the threat is stopped. If one shot does it, great. If it takes 500, so be it. It also doesn't matter if the first shot is a kill shot, the last shot, or one in between.

The agent had a second to make a decision, and wasn't going to count his shots just to make you or anyone else feel better.

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Every other officer who has made a legit mistake firing their weapon, could claim "split second decision", and that should certainly be factored in.

This topic isnt going away, so might as well acknowledge the side window shot could be a major issue for his defense arguement.

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If that becomes an issue in any trial, I would not be surprised if his defense claims that after she tried to run him over, he could only assume she was still a legitimate threat to other officers or civilians who could have been in the immediate area. Kind of like how you can shoot a suspect on foot if he is running away with a gun after committing a violent crime. Prosecution is going to get creative, so defense better start getting creative as well.

We will see. I hope it doesn't even get to the point where this cop's life hangs in the balance though.

Yep. Good find.

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Yep, and this is why you could not pay me to be a cop in today's world. Rapid fire in a split second life or death situation and a bunch of liberals or soccer moms who have never even held a gun, but have always been told how evil guns (and ICE) are, determine your fate. Hard pass.

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Better than six carrying you.

Enough of this *****footing around. Ask what would would Bull Connor do?

Why are Minneapolis Police calling in sick when they're not even doing anything?

UPDATE: Multiple sources confirming now this number has climbed to more than 100 Minneapolis police officers who have applied for the new paid leave program. https://t.co/qE1C10Kzsv

— Liz Collin (@lizcollin) January 16, 2026

Pension-motivated officers who know a lose-lose situation when they see one? Any cop still in that town knows the Chauvin verdict and will avoid confrontation accordingly.

If officer Phil Brailsford got acquitted for 2nd degree of Daniel Shaver, I dont see how this ICE agent could get convicted.

I dont even know how its gonna play out with state vs feds in even bringing charges. Lots of defense arguements made here, all much better than the Phil Brailsford's defense. But never know with the political aspect in this case. No one cared about Daniel Shaver, straight white male.....in this case, got a woke LGBT.

If state brings charges-

The court moves it to federal jurisdiction. The case is dismissed due to immunity

Got them / they!

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🚨 BREAKING: One of Minnesota’s most notorious Trantifa terrorists is rolling out to the Whipple ICE facility with a car stuffed full of umbrellas.

Their plan? Block pepper pellets, sprays, and shotguns.

Bring the water cannons let’s see how those umbrellas hold up. pic.twitter.com/ZWfSnOfxzt

— Kim "Katie" USA (@KimKatieUSA) January 16, 2026

Where do the anarchists get money for umbrellas? Stop the funding.

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Same place they get camping tents for Columbia U.

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The walls are closing in!

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey are under federal investigation, two U.S. officials told WCCO on Friday afternoon. They are being investigated by the DOJ for allegedly obstructing law enforcement activities.
https://t.co/Vg4Y8naQDO

— WCCO | CBS News Minnesota (@WCCO) January 16, 2026

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And if they're indicted, it will be exactly what the Democrats want because it gives them more ammo of the "Trump is a dictator/authoritarian/Hitler" mantra because they know the idiot masses will eat it up.

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IIRC the SCOTUS has ruled previously that if the first shot a cop takes to neutralize a threat is justified, then subsequent shots are automatically deemed justified as long as the threat has not already been neutralized or otherwise stopped.

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I think the arguement would be that once the officer was on the side of a car moving the opposite direction, the threat had stopped.

Of course, we see mag dumps all the time when suspects are armed or are assaulting a cop....fire away. Or firing over the hood like the ICE agents initial shots.

The only time I have ever seen a cop fire at a fleeing car is if they had already been shot at. Does anyone have another example?

Im not excusing the crazy lib. But if the 3rd shot killed her, I dont think its as cut and dry as yall think.

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Who do you think is going to be investigating this? It's not going to be state of MN detectives or prosecutors. It'll be feds from trumps DOJ

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🚨#BREAKING: According to The Daily Beast, ICE federal agents had visited a Mexican restaurant as regular customers before later returning to detain three members of the restaurant’s staff

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) January 16, 2026

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I guess the Mexican food sucked?

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Seems moot since they aren't arresting peaceful protestors.

BREAKING: Judge enters TRO blocking feds from interfering with or arresting peaceful protesters in Minnesota. Judge Kate Menendez, Biden appointee. Order: https://t.co/FAvCOWRGGU pic.twitter.com/xAicwkrQoX

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) January 17, 2026

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They already redefined "peacefully" (during the summer of st Floyd protests) so they think this applies to all the protestors. Peacefully breaking into a car and stealing a gun

Edit: appreciate your updates

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If they're physically harassing ICE or blocking ingress and egress with cars then they aren't peaceful protesters. They're criminals.

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100%. But they (and the judges) unfortunately think otherwise. They recently had a video of a TDS lady forcibly forcing someone saying repeatedly "we are peaceful we are peaceful". These people (including the judges) have no sense of logic or reason.

Not much sports on tonight. Anything interesting worth watching on the /16 ???

does anyone outside of the media and pollical junkies care about any of this? I don't Renne Good FAFO move on.

Nearly all of what the "protestors" have been detained/arrested for has been "obstructive", which is not covered by that ruling.

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Can we all admit what this is about? It's not about saving illegals. It's all about our stupid census laws. For some reason, illegals count towards representation in congress. The democrats flooded the country under Biden and put them in blue states to bolster their numbers. That's why they are fighting like hell.

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Yep. Rand Paul on JRE pointed this out. If there was an offer to the people that have been here illegally for years that they could stay without fear of deportation, but they could never become citizens with voting rights, most would be ok with it. Many Rs probably would too. The Rs that would not would probably be against it simply because they would be rightfully skeptical of the "never become citizens with voting rights" part. Some Rs (probably a minority) justifiably and understandably would be against it on principle. Who would overwhelmingly be against it? Dem politicians. It's about votes and power. All actions by commies/socialists always about power and control.

Edit: and specifically to your point about the census (a little different than my response) It's ridiculous that they count towards the census. But that's what it is about too.

Remember the so-called woman that was drugged out of the car claiming she was autistic and had a brain injury and was trying to get to the doctor well the New York Post has identified her.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/14/us-news/woman-dragged-from-car-by-ice-in-minnesota-idd-as-lgbt-and-racial-justice-activist/#

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If state brings charges-

The court moves it to federal jurisdiction. The case is dismissed due to immunity

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Seems moot since they aren't arresting peaceful protestors.

BREAKING: Judge enters TRO blocking feds from interfering with or arresting peaceful protesters in Minnesota. Judge Kate Menendez, Biden appointee. Order: https://t.co/FAvCOWRGGU pic.twitter.com/xAicwkrQoX

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) January 17, 2026

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They already redefined "peacefully" (during the summer of st Floyd protests) so they think this applies to all the protestors. Peacefully breaking into a car and stealing a gun

Edit: appreciate your updates

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Fiery but peaceful protesters...

Who's going to enforce the TRO? MPD? Good luck with that, Judge.