samurai_science said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
samurai_science said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.
I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.
Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?
Stop lying, these are not American citizens being deported
Not true. ICE arrested and then deported Chanthila Souvannarath, to Laos. Souvannarath was born in a refugee camp in Thailand and entered the United States before his first birthday, receiving lawful permanent residence. He became a U.S. citizen as a minor when his father naturalized and gained sole custody of him, meeting all requirements for derivative citizenship under immigration law at the time.
Beyond that, detaining American Citizens without due process (probable cause) is violating their rights.
But there's recourse for that.
The potential for violating someone's constitutional rights cannot mean the wholesale enforcement of immigration law must be stopped.
If an american has their rights violated, theres proper recourse.
That said, ice is batting like 99.97%, which is likely the most successful action of any major federal department
Besides that not how due process, probable cause, and all that works anyway. If the detainment or arrest was invalid that is decided in court. What some message board poster from Reddit think is irrelevant.
Of course.
Point being- even if some american is taken in for being a suspected illegal, and that person thinks their rights have been violated, there already exist recourse to address this issue.
What these posters and their fellow leftist say is that because someone might be mistakenly arrested/detained, no one should be taken in because it might violate someone's rights.
Nevermind the literally endless lists of ways govt step on our rights that they completely ignore.
I've also yet to find a single reason any of them can articulate how its not the federal govts job to enforce federal law, or, how the actual morally correct position is the execution of those laws, not the ignoring of them.
Mostly, its you vant be illegal on stolen land as if that has any sort of meaning.
