Hope they prosecute the lib idiots who invaded the church

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ExPeterKeating said:

Again, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO ANY OF THEM.


Unfortunately this is correct
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BusterAg said:

ExPeterKeating said:

As much as I hate those people invading a church, hear me when i tell you, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. There will be ZERO consequences. The DOJ will go on Fox News and ***** about it and then issue a strongly worded letter. NOTHING will happen. These anarchists fear nothing and no one in the current administration. We are STILL waiting for ONE arrest and conviction from all of the s##t over the last 10 years. NOTHING! The Trump administration is starting to look weak on matters like this. All talk. No action. Prove me wrong.

Bookmarked.

I give it a 50-50 chance that we see multiple arrests that result in at least some prison time. Especially the jerk that was cussing at kids.

This is the time when I wish that DeSantis was POTUS. He might be a dufus, but he is much better and fearless about wielding executive power.


I will take the under on this. Been a year and nothing is being done about all the criminal activity from the left.
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BusterAg said:

ExPeterKeating said:

As much as I hate those people invading a church, hear me when i tell you, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. There will be ZERO consequences. The DOJ will go on Fox News and ***** about it and then issue a strongly worded letter. NOTHING will happen. These anarchists fear nothing and no one in the current administration. We are STILL waiting for ONE arrest and conviction from all of the s##t over the last 10 years. NOTHING! The Trump administration is starting to look weak on matters like this. All talk. No action. Prove me wrong.

Bookmarked.

I give it a 50-50 chance that we see multiple arrests that result in at least some prison time. Especially the jerk that was cussing at kids.

This is the time when I wish that DeSantis was POTUS. He might be a dufus, but he is much better and fearless about wielding executive power.


This. So much this.
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Gilligan said:

BusterAg said:

ExPeterKeating said:

As much as I hate those people invading a church, hear me when i tell you, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. There will be ZERO consequences. The DOJ will go on Fox News and ***** about it and then issue a strongly worded letter. NOTHING will happen. These anarchists fear nothing and no one in the current administration. We are STILL waiting for ONE arrest and conviction from all of the s##t over the last 10 years. NOTHING! The Trump administration is starting to look weak on matters like this. All talk. No action. Prove me wrong.

Bookmarked.

I give it a 50-50 chance that we see multiple arrests that result in at least some prison time. Especially the jerk that was cussing at kids.

This is the time when I wish that DeSantis was POTUS. He might be a dufus, but he is much better and fearless about wielding executive power.


I will take the under on this. Been a year and nothing is being done about all the criminal activity from the left.

The difference between this instance and all of the other criminal activity is none of these protestors, with the exception of Lemon, are part of the Washington Elite.

Politicians and DC bureaucrats unfortunately have invincible armor that protects them from criminal prosecution.

These paid-for protestors? Not so much.

Defending the storming of a church is going to cost the Dems popularity with some important swing groups. It will be interesting to see if they decide to try and pay that price, and, if they do, if Trump presses forwards anyways.
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BusterAg said:

ExPeterKeating said:

As much as I hate those people invading a church, hear me when i tell you, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. There will be ZERO consequences. The DOJ will go on Fox News and ***** about it and then issue a strongly worded letter. NOTHING will happen. These anarchists fear nothing and no one in the current administration. We are STILL waiting for ONE arrest and conviction from all of the s##t over the last 10 years. NOTHING! The Trump administration is starting to look weak on matters like this. All talk. No action. Prove me wrong.

Bookmarked.

I give it a 50-50 chance that we see multiple arrests that result in at least some prison time. Especially the jerk that was cussing at kids.

This is the time when I wish that DeSantis was POTUS. He might be a dufus, but he is much better and fearless about wielding executive power.

50-50 is being generous.

As long as Bondi is AG, nothing will happen.
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DANManman said:

Sorry, but I got to speak up on this. "For there is no authority except from God" applies to ALL authorities, not just kings, not just at that time. Even Satan cannot do a single thing without God allowing it, so of course Biden et al. were all enabled by God. Remember, bad leaders (that were selected) were also indictments on the people they were subject to, like Saul when Israel denied God ruling them directly. Bad leaders endanger their subjects, but wicked people invite wicked rule, as well. And the rulers that were in place during Paul's time were most certainly wicked, so implying that Biden making it meaning that passage no longer applies doesn't logically follow. The church was being persecuted by the government at that time!



That's fine if you believe that. To me it's silly.

Not saying it didn't happen (ie Saul). However, the mainstream interpretation is that monarchy was a concession to human weakness as the Israeli people were rejecting God as their King. Therefore no political system is ideal or inherently "divine".

Is God responsible for every action you make, good and bad, or does free will only apply some times?

An average person in Mesopotamia had no say in their king. Probably never even saw him.

88 million people voted for Biden. Free will…

I love Trump but I am in no way thinking God looked at Trump and thought "that's my guy."

You one of these guys?


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Don is quite the hypocrite.

He's a well known groper of white men in Montauk.
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CrackerJackAg said:

Logos Stick said:

CrackerJackAg said:

El Chupacabra said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

As a Christian, I'm disappointed the church isn't a crime scene with lots of chalk.

I believe that terrorists should suffer swift, aggressive consequences that ends their ability to terrorize ever again.

Christians, the right, conservatives have turned the other cheek for too long, and now it is out of control. These terrorists aren't far from chaining doors shut and lighting buildings on fire.


So not Christianity. Nothing in the Gospels tells of turning The Jews or Roman's into chalk lines


So per your interpretation, hiring an off duty armed cop to protect the worship service and potentially kill a gunman is not Christianity. We should simply let the gunman come in and kill everyone?!


That would be an extreme understanding today.

However, not out of line of early Christian followers during the pre-Nicene. It would have been the prevailing ideal at the time.

I don't believe this is the case for me. I think there is an obvious case for defending the lives of your family and friends.

IN THIS CASE NO WAS ONE PHYSICALLY HARMED.

You are creating false scenarios to justify the ends you desire.






The United States is not the Roman Empire. Giving up your rights as some sort of Christian principle is certainly a take.

In my opinion this view reflects a misunderstanding of the Bible as a whole and how to view scripture with an understanding of the implications of historical context.
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heavens11 said:

CrackerJackAg said:

Logos Stick said:

CrackerJackAg said:

El Chupacabra said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

As a Christian, I'm disappointed the church isn't a crime scene with lots of chalk.

I believe that terrorists should suffer swift, aggressive consequences that ends their ability to terrorize ever again.

Christians, the right, conservatives have turned the other cheek for too long, and now it is out of control. These terrorists aren't far from chaining doors shut and lighting buildings on fire.


So not Christianity. Nothing in the Gospels tells of turning The Jews or Roman's into chalk lines


So per your interpretation, hiring an off duty armed cop to protect the worship service and potentially kill a gunman is not Christianity. We should simply let the gunman come in and kill everyone?!


That would be an extreme understanding today.

However, not out of line of early Christian followers during the pre-Nicene. It would have been the prevailing ideal at the time.

I don't believe this is the case for me. I think there is an obvious case for defending the lives of your family and friends.

IN THIS CASE NO WAS ONE PHYSICALLY HARMED.

You are creating false scenarios to justify the ends you desire.






The United States is not the Roman Empire. Giving up your rights as some sort of Christian principle is certainly a take.

In my opinion this view reflects a misunderstanding of the Bible as a whole and how to view scripture with an understanding of the implications of historical context.


How so? I stated that in Pre-Nicene age many viewed it that way.

I stated I do not see it that way.

Were the pre-nicene people historically out of touch with a Bible that did not exist or an I out of touch with the Bible for agreeing with you?

I really didn't understand your statement in general. That may be on me.

Could you explain your position?
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I guess the DOJ is still ""looking into it"?
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CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

The evil and vile nature of the modern left is turning me more and more into this type of Christian...



Force and brutality is all they will understand. These people want gay p0rn in your child's school library. They support chopping the breasts off of confused 13 y/o girls...every single one of their senators wants boilogical males in our daughter's sports/showers/locker rooms.
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They don't believe in God nor care, thus their appetite for mocking Christians and no regard for any church. When you realize the left is evil and war is coming, you'll be ready.
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1981 Monte Carlo said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

The evil and vile nature of the modern left is turning me more and more into this type of Christian...



Force and brutality is all they will understand. These people want gay p0rn in your child's school library. They support chopping the breasts off of confused 13 y/o girls...every single one of their senators wants boilogical males in our daughter's sports/showers/locker rooms.


Yeah, I get that. If you go on Crusade try not to set the world back 500 years sacking Constantinople this time.

I refused to put my kid in Catholic school last year because they are "The Crusaders" and he was going into fourth grade and would have been a Fourth Crusader.

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Let us know when Don Lemon is arrested
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CrackerJackAg said:

1981 Monte Carlo said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

The evil and vile nature of the modern left is turning me more and more into this type of Christian...



Force and brutality is all they will understand. These people want gay p0rn in your child's school library. They support chopping the breasts off of confused 13 y/o girls...every single one of their senators wants boilogical males in our daughter's sports/showers/locker rooms.


Yeah, I get that. If you go on Crusade try not to set the world back 500 years sacking Constantinople this time.

I refused to put my kid in Catholic school last year because they are "The Crusaders" and he was going into fourth grade and would have been a Fourth Crusader.



Both my kids graduated from Catholic school and they were the Crusaders. Good luck with the private school that allows boys in girls sports.
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4stringAg said:

Don Lemon claiming the churchgoers are white supremacists and using his gay black man status will claim he's the persecuted one.


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The church protestors are yelling and screaming at a press conference today. They are demanding the church pastor step down and ICE be prosecuted for murder of Renee Good.

ETA: Don Lemon is an independent journalist and showed up not knowing what was happening or where.
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CrackerJackAg said:

AggiePetro07 said:

CrackerJackAg said:

DannyDuberstein said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.


Being Christian doesn't mean you have to be a limp-wristed victim. This was threatening behavior that interfered with people's inalienable rights. It should be prosecuted.


That's your opinion. Not prosecuting doesn't makes you a limp wasted victim. Christ could have overcome his persecutors. He chose not to.

If you think they should prosecute or call in the military that is your opinion and I'm sure you have your justification. (Not assigning that to you but just echoing similar sentiments in this thread)

I don't think Christ taught us to seek justice. That's my opinion.


Wrong. He taught us to not seek vengeance.

Justice? Absolutely.


ALL forms of justice Christ spoke about were spiritual and not worldly. Some use the Parable of the Persistent Widow as justification for this point but that is not generally how it is taken and out of context with ALL of the other teachings of Christ.

Your statement is unequivocally false and cannot be backed up by scripture. Unless it's a "what the scripture says to me" type interpretation.

I'm going to delete my initial snarky response because I want to try and give you the benefit of the doubt. Are you trying to come across as arrogant and condescending?

Temporal justice is wrong because you think Christ only taught on eternal justice?

"Christ is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature..." Hebrews 1:3.

Justice is essential to God's nature and is foundational to his moral will. Therefore, it is essential and foundational to the character of Christ.

Psalms 89:14: "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne; steadfast love and faithfulness go before you."

Isaiah 1:17: "learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause."

Micah 6:8: "He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?"

Proverbs 31:8-9 Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.

For Christ to teach something antithetical to the Father's Scripture makes Hebrews 1 false (and many other scriptures detailing the perfect nature of Christ).

Is it against Christ's teachings to put murderers on trial? Rapists? Thieves? What about caring for those who are abused or subjugated? Is it wrong to seek justice on behalf of someone who is being wronged? Is it wrong to stop a child from being beaten? Is it wrong to speak out on the enslaving of a people? What about the mass execution of a people because of the color of their skin or the religious affiliations?

Surely you don't agree with that?

All of those things are forms of temporal justice.

If it's not wrong to seek justice, then according to your definition Christ would be wrong (and thus sinful) since he doesn't speak of temporal justice at all.

Even the most theologically liberal "Christians" would argue that some form of temporal justice is biblically defensible (ex: social justice), because nearly every theologian has recognized the implicit and explicit commands of Christ with respect to the social order and intrapersonal reconciliation. In other words, temporal justice cannot be ignored within the moral framework of Christianity because Christ's commands were not just about what happens after we die, but how we are to live life. Ephesians 2:10, John 13:34-35, for example. That must come from a pursuit of Justice considering the genesis of this disorder and brokenness is sin, or injustice...the violating of God's moral law.

Christ came to fulfill the Law, and did so perfectly. He didn't come to abolish it. To come and not speak of temporal justice would be to ignore one of the main facets of the Mosaic Law which he necessarily had to fulfill. The Law was given in part to establish social order, interpersonal peace and good governance and was a system of justice.

With the law we know how to imitate God's character and live within his will, and anything contrary to it must be corrected. To believe that Christ 100% ignored the aspects of temporal justice is to believe that he ignored the significant parts of scripture that deal with temporal justice. That scripture came from God the Father (2 Timothy 3:16-17) and changes who we are here on earth.

Christ 100% spoke of eternal justice, you are right there. But he also commanded us to love one another by following his example while this side of heaven. To ignore the calling that comes from being a Christian to do right and love others is to ignore the reality that our Christian life doesn't begin when we get to heaven.

Ultimately Christ came to do the will of God the Father and told his followers to do the same.
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I just hope God allow Don Lemon to fully experience the maximum effect of FAFO.

If so, it I might take it as a sign from God to start attending church.
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aggiehawg said:

El Chupacabra said:

richardag said:

captkirk said:



Insanity.




The democrat terrorist is saying 'come and get me'. He knows nothing will happen to him.

Has already admitted to multiple counts of violating the Travel Act. Pile on the charges.

ETA: And yes those are federal.

There is a Federal Detention center in Miami. Maybe the Feds would consider opening one in Nome Alaska.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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aggiehawg said:

4stringAg said:

Don Lemon claiming the churchgoers are white supremacists and using his gay black man status will claim he's the persecuted one.

Like most of those churchgoers even know who he was, much less that he was gay. He was fired for low ratings, after all.

Well stated. Would love to hear that testimony in a court of law, imagine one of the members of that church making that statement.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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austinAG90 said:

CrackerJackAg said:

1981 Monte Carlo said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

The evil and vile nature of the modern left is turning me more and more into this type of Christian...



Force and brutality is all they will understand. These people want gay p0rn in your child's school library. They support chopping the breasts off of confused 13 y/o girls...every single one of their senators wants boilogical males in our daughter's sports/showers/locker rooms.


Yeah, I get that. If you go on Crusade try not to set the world back 500 years sacking Constantinople this time.

I refused to put my kid in Catholic school last year because they are "The Crusaders" and he was going into fourth grade and would have been a Fourth Crusader.



Both my kids graduated from Catholic school and they were the Crusaders. Good luck with the private school that allows boys in girls sports.


That's a really weird thing to say. Are you unwell?

My kids homeschool and one will probably to Catholic School next year.

Are trannies on your mind all the time no matter what you read?
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AggiePetro07 said:

CrackerJackAg said:

AggiePetro07 said:

CrackerJackAg said:

DannyDuberstein said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.


Being Christian doesn't mean you have to be a limp-wristed victim. This was threatening behavior that interfered with people's inalienable rights. It should be prosecuted.


That's your opinion. Not prosecuting doesn't makes you a limp wasted victim. Christ could have overcome his persecutors. He chose not to.

If you think they should prosecute or call in the military that is your opinion and I'm sure you have your justification. (Not assigning that to you but just echoing similar sentiments in this thread)

I don't think Christ taught us to seek justice. That's my opinion.


Wrong. He taught us to not seek vengeance.

Justice? Absolutely.


ALL forms of justice Christ spoke about were spiritual and not worldly. Some use the Parable of the Persistent Widow as justification for this point but that is not generally how it is taken and out of context with ALL of the other teachings of Christ.

Your statement is unequivocally false and cannot be backed up by scripture. Unless it's a "what the scripture says to me" type interpretation.

I'm going to delete my initial snarky response because I want to try and give you the benefit of the doubt. Are you trying to come across as arrogant and condescending?

Temporal justice is wrong because you think Christ only taught on eternal justice?

"Christ is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature..." Hebrews 1:3.

Justice is essential to God's nature and is foundational to his moral will. Therefore, it is essential and foundational to the character of Christ.

Psalms 89:14: "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne; steadfast love and faithfulness go before you."

Isaiah 1:17: "learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause."

Micah 6:8: "He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?"

Proverbs 31:8-9 Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.

For Christ to teach something antithetical to the Father's Scripture makes Hebrews 1 false (and many other scriptures detailing the perfect nature of Christ).

Is it against Christ's teachings to put murderers on trial? Rapists? Thieves? What about caring for those who are abused or subjugated? Is it wrong to seek justice on behalf of someone who is being wronged? Is it wrong to stop a child from being beaten? Is it wrong to speak out on the enslaving of a people? What about the mass execution of a people because of the color of their skin or the religious affiliations?

Surely you don't agree with that?

All of those things are forms of temporal justice.

If it's not wrong to seek justice, then according to your definition Christ would be wrong (and thus sinful) since he doesn't speak of temporal justice at all.

Even the most theologically liberal "Christians" would argue that some form of temporal justice is biblically defensible (ex: social justice), because nearly every theologian has recognized the implicit and explicit commands of Christ with respect to the social order and intrapersonal reconciliation. In other words, temporal justice cannot be ignored within the moral framework of Christianity because Christ's commands were not just about what happens after we die, but how we are to live life. Ephesians 2:10, John 13:34-35, for example. That must come from a pursuit of Justice considering the genesis of this disorder and brokenness is sin, or injustice...the violating of God's moral law.

Christ came to fulfill the Law, and did so perfectly. He didn't come to abolish it. To come and not speak of temporal justice would be to ignore one of the main facets of the Mosaic Law which he necessarily had to fulfill. The Law was given in part to establish social order, interpersonal peace and good governance and was a system of justice.

With the law we know how to imitate God's character and live within his will, and anything contrary to it must be corrected. To believe that Christ 100% ignored the aspects of temporal justice is to believe that he ignored the significant parts of scripture that deal with temporal justice. That scripture came from God the Father (2 Timothy 3:16-17) and changes who we are here on earth.

Christ 100% spoke of eternal justice, you are right there. But he also commanded us to love one another by following his example while this side of heaven. To ignore the calling that comes from being a Christian to do right and love others is to ignore the reality that our Christian life doesn't begin when we get to heaven.

Ultimately Christ came to do the will of God the Father and told his followers to do the same.


I don't try to come across arrogant and condescending. I think it's just my nature.

I don't think it's on either of our interest to argue. That and this is not the point of this thread.

Have a great day.
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CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.


The number 1 place for mass shootings... churches. Yeah, let's just give them a free pass.....what could possibly happen next time.
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japantiger said:

CrackerJackAg said:

As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.


The number 1 place for mass shootings... churches. Yeah, let's just give them a free pass.....what could possibly happen next time.
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Welcome to yesterdays conversation.

Its always cool when someone doesn't read a thread and then replies to the beginning of the thread before taking the time to read it and realize his statement has already been made, responded to and discussed.
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bobbranco said:

Don is quite the hypocrite.

He's a well known groper of white men in Montauk.

Its worse than that, he rubs his dick cheese-smelling fingers under peoples noses, allegedly.
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Come on, man. Not everyone wants to read that.
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Pam Bondi finally delivered

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That's not Don lemon
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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They need to roll up that white dude with the beard that was screaming at the kids and throw his ass away. He admitted to being a professional agitator during a speech to one of the mobs. Throw the book at him and learn who is pulling the strings.

His name is William Kelly
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BadMoonRisin said:

They need to roll up that white dude with the beard that was screaming at the kids and throw his ass away. He admitted to being a professional agitator during a speech to one of the mobs. Throw the book at him and learn who is pulling the strings.

His name is William Kelly

Notice who was right behind him, she was just arrested




He talks tough until arrested, here he is crying like a baby as he's arrested in 2023

"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Too bad he filmed himself doing all of the things he is claiming that he did not do for internet likes and clout.
 
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