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Let's see....

Obama spied on his campaign and launched a coup d' etat against the duly elected president of the US.

Trump posted a funny video that depicted the Obama's as Apes.

Yeah, one of these is truly terrible. The other was funny.
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Here are the facts of the case. In some ways, they're really quite simple.

The original tweet, including verbiage in the tweet was about the Dominion voting scandal and included a one minute and two second video.

The last three seconds of the video was the repulsive thing with the Obama's. And apparently that came from a longer video that showed many politicians in animal form, but that's not what the one he shared had, only the parts with the Obamas. Someone clearly put it on there. The question is who. This did not originate with the White House.

There's even about a half second of darkness at the end of the Dominion part before that starts. No logical person would've ever thought that Obama part would be there. And if they didn't watch it to the end, they wouldn't have seen it.

I foolishly joined a discussion yesterday that had already taken the narrative of how evil and horrible and racist Trump was. I know, my bad, I should not have done it. But when explained the facts of this specific share from Trump, of course that was not met well. And one person who is normally a very rational person, literally said this when I explained what had happened. "I don't give a rats ass about any of that. No politician should've ever sent that out." So the facts didn't matter. If you're not willing to look at the entire situation, you don't have an honest assessment of it. Just the narrative you choose to push.

So here's the problems. First, yes, and tweet and video about the 2020 Dominion computer scandal is something a politician, especially the one who was screwed over by it should share. That was then met with well sharing that to begin with was ridiculous because no cheating happened but that's a different road.

Second, the people that hate Trump and want to have a racist narrative don't care about the facts of how the video came to be shared on Trumps Truth Social, and they don't want to know. They just want to be mad. If that's the road they're taking there's nothing that can be said to convince them otherwise.

When I suggested that people actually watch the video in question, there were all sorts of excuses why they couldn't for most of them and they didn't want to because basically, they didn't want to see what actually happened. OK again if you're not willing to see what happened your narrative Isn't properly supported.

I have in the past put a few things on this site that I did not vet properly and I got egg on my face for it and I should have. I've always apologized and or deleted it and said I was wrong. And if someone who worked in the communications field for my entire career from everything, designing to writing to sending out social media information, etc, I can assure you it is much easier to make a mistake like that than people think especially with an illogical addition to a video.

One part of this is anything that is forwarded by the White House or Trump on Twitter or TruthSocial or wherever it's coming from must be vetted completely to the end. and again, as someone who has lived a few mistakes myself in my career, none that bad though, it certainly makes you not want to do it again if it's in your control. I have no idea how many people work in the White House or TruthSocial Communication departments.

And yes, Trump is very savvy with this stuff for the most part. He should look at it himself, but when you rely on your underlings to do it, that's part Of the situation as well. Ultimately, if it comes out from "him', he is responsible, no matter who did it. I've learned that hard lesson myself as well. But every politician, especially the president's office has their in terms that do this part of it. How many weird ass things did we see come out of the Biden administration. Just completely illogical information.

So that's it. This is what this particular incident was about, but those that want to keep being offended about it will and those who are past it and moving on will also. Can't we just all get along. Apparently not.
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japantiger said:

Let's see....

Obama spied on his campaign and launched a coup d' etat against the duly elected president of the US.

Trump posted a funny video that depicted the Obama's as Apes.

Yeah, one of these is truly terrible. The other was funny.

What's funny is he didn't even post it, had an intern post a video about the obvious corruption that took place during the 2020 election (81 million votes...yeah right), and when asked about it said the video clip was done in poor taste. I'm sure like the "fine people" hoax they will say he waited 24 hours to condemn it...burn him like a witch!!!
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Also, let's not forget the left has spent the last decade being blatantly and overtly racist and sexist against straight white men. Not only are we blaimed for literally every bad thing that has ever happened, but we are flagrantly being discriminated against in a large variety of professions.

But faces on monkeys reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Mental gymnastics
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ShotOver said:

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ShotOver said:

Disgusting. Worse, there are people going to jump on here and either try to defend this or characterize negative responses as TDS. This egomaniac is an embarrassment to our country. He has no common sense.

um no Biden was an embarrassment to the county you have it wrong.

We are the laughing stock of the world. Biden had his issues, but it was infinitely less embarrassing than the ****show we have now.


People that support Trump always,…ALWAYS,…use "Biden" or "the previous administration " as some sort of justification for their argument or comeback to criticism of Trump. At what point in a Presidency do you stop blaming others and actually lead?

You are changing the subject.

The things that Trump has accomplished in the last year are staggering. One thing that I think is different this time around is he is focusing on his highest and best use-> making amazing deals on behalf of the US people.

Shining a light on USAID is the biggest move against DC corruption since Chester Arthur. NATO is stepping up to the plate. Denmark has promised to quit double dealing with China on Greenland. Panama is kicking a CCP owned company out of the Panama Canal ports. Illegal immigration is going in reverse. Iran's dictators are on shaky ground. Venezuela is on the road to recovery. Gas prices are back to normal. We are exporting energy again. The tariffs are working (or arguably so, you can make a case the other way, but you have different economists saying different things), food inflation is actually going in reverse for some items, and that's just to start.

All of these accomplishments are a separate issue from Trump's undisciplined communication style, which sucks, but you don't accomplish what you have above without leadership.
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SigAg6 said:

Mental gymnastics


Honest question, are you a straight white male?
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Stop engaging with a party who actually thinks having a "jackass" as their party symbol is a compliment, it's not. There is no "humility" from the left, zero.
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Silent For Too Long said:

SigAg6 said:

Mental gymnastics


Honest question, are you a straight white male?


I am, and it's mental gymnastics
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What is?
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The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
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GMaster0 said:

The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

Ding ding ding!!!
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GMaster0 said:

The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

Sounds like a democrats prayer to me.
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Just to point out, the Obamas deserved it as the most racially hypocritical and divisive couple in the history of the earth.

So let's go ahead and skip the intermediary steps.

And if you don't like what Trump did, impeach his ass and move on. Else, cry harder.
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The Fall Guy said:

coupland boy said:

Sid Farkas said:

The whole race baiting script needs a refresh...boooring.


I wish he hadn't fed that script steroids. And for what? Damage control for his administration in the foreseeable future?

I've been jousting with libs on social media, my acquaintances on facebook, and in personal conversation. The answer with them on any given issue is how bad Trump is....followed by epstein folowed by January 6. Sure, i never really get anywhere with those folks but there are a lot of conservatives who speak up, we make our points, and we mutually support each other.

I dont think some of you appreciate just how damaging that truly was yesterday. Here it doesn't matter. Post something that shows your commitment and get a bunch of stars. Just like the libs turning to bash Trump on any policy discussion some of you will ask if the next wackadoodle the dems will put up is any better. Not to me..not to damn near anyone on this forum. But enough to hurt the cause? Hell yes.


Thank you for the sanity post. Everyone and every race is racist at some points in their lives. Its a given. When in political office especially these days keep it in your mind. This has damaged the future especially at midterms. Doesn't matter the good Trump has done for foreign policy or the stock market. Yall can argue all you want here but not seeing it and pissing off your own base won't help.

just like the kill Tony joke on Puerto Rico was going to cost Trump the election.
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Straight white Christian conservative males are the most vilified group in existence. The radical left and minorities on the democrat victim plantation violently hate us, blame us for all of their shortcomings, want us dead, our way of life destroyed, and our children indoctrinated and raped. **** them crying about a meme, when they openly celebrate violence and murder against us and white people in general
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unimboti nkum said:

In a normal universe, this would be the end of someone's political career. In maga-land, it's just a Friday, and this will be defended to the death.
…,,,

May have been a screw up


ETA: this screw up was exposed on page 5 in this thread. Late again I am.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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The country was just getting past the woke **** and the toddler king has to step in **** and track this back in
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jamey said:

The country was just getting past the woke **** and the toddler king has to step in **** and track this back in

Guess facts don't actually matter to you.
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Racism died after we elected Obama twice for Pres.
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HoustonAggie11 said:

Racism died after we elected Obama twice for Pres.

Racism in Texas died when the Comptroller struck all the HUB nonsense. I've lost out on millions for speaking English, having a dong, liking women and being white.

Now I can compete with lesbian Somalians and open my own learning centers.
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HoustonAggie11 said:

Racism died after we elected Obama twice for Pres.

It should have, but the Race Baiter-In-Chief set race relations in this country back 60 years.
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One of the problems of the left is they will fall for literally anything.
I hate tu. It's in my blood.
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MagnumLoad said:

One of the problems of the left is they will fall for literally anything.

It's because they don't stand for anything.

Aaron Tippin told us all this years ago.

The concept on this song is simply not comprehendible by DemLibs.

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flown-the-coop said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

Racism died after we elected Obama twice for Pres.

Racism in Texas died when the Comptroller struck all the HUB nonsense. I've lost out on millions for speaking English, having a dong, liking women and being white.

Now I can compete with lesbian Somalians and open my own learning centers.


*Learing...
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Spellcheck caught it.

Which makes you wonder why the sine companee did t ketch it.
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Trump and his racism is spreading. WE MUST STOP THIS!!!
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We will have to call the ground covering lilyturf vs its more common name.

This whe hit reminds me of back in my corp days working for global company out of the UK, my boss was over and we were having a team dinner and discussing Sarbanes-Oxley (fun times). He said compliance testing was so simple a monkey could do it. My black employee was not amused.

This resulted in many meeting with US HR that eventually went to London where the complaint was laughed at and closed.

America is the laughing stock of the world because people give a **** about this and not because it happened.
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Ag87H2O said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

Racism died after we elected Obama twice for Pres.

It should have, but the Race Baiter-In-Chief set race relations in this country back 60 years.
if anything, obama getting elected twice sent the 20% of the country still on the trump bandwagon into a racist psychosis, of which this little stunt is just the latest example
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Old McDonald said:

Ag87H2O said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

Racism died after we elected Obama twice for Pres.

It should have, but the Race Baiter-In-Chief set race relations in this country back 60 years.
if anything, obama getting elected twice sent the 20% of the country still on the trump bandwagon into a racist psychosis, of which this little stunt is just the latest example

Biden saying he will pick his VP and SCOTUS justices based on color of skin (not even race mind you, just color) and whether they currently possess or acknowledge a *****.

Those are actual acts of race and sex discrimination regarding the most important nominees in our Country.

And you libs scream "muh DEI" whilst carrying out discrimination that would make the KKK envious.
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Old McDonald said:

Ag87H2O said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

Racism died after we elected Obama twice for Pres.

It should have, but the Race Baiter-In-Chief set race relations in this country back 60 years.

if anything, obama getting elected twice sent the 20% of the country still on the trump bandwagon into a racist psychosis, of which this little stunt is just the latest example

lets get real you and your ilk would still say tRump iS rACIT....regardless of whether this happened or not, its pretty tiresome after the first 4 years.
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Quote:

if anything, obama getting elected twice sent the 20% of the country still on the trump bandwagon into a racist psychosis, of which this little stunt is just the latest example

Surely you do not believe that.
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aggiehawg said:

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if anything, obama getting elected twice sent the 20% of the country still on the trump bandwagon into a racist psychosis, of which this little stunt is just the latest example

Surely you do not believe that.

He does, or thinks he does. He spends his waking hours dreaming up this liberal garbage.
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I think it's bizarre how deep TDS runs.

Now I know I through the term around if you don't line up behind Trump, and maybe I should tone it down, because there really is a derangement some people have regarding Trump.

To spin up like this over an inadvertent fragment of a video posted at the end of an intended video and to use that as proof Trump and MAGA are racist… that's insane.

Then they turn right around and ignore actual racism. It's what makes reconciliation with the left currently impossible.
 
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