Vouchers: 42000 applied by yesterday

10,563 Views | 140 Replies | Last: 1 mo ago by techno-ag
Owlagdad
How long do you want to ignore this user?
And growing.
Probably would say most are parents of existing private schoolers who want their tax money to go their child's education.
Hope it works for them!
Tyler ISD Supt views it as competition! Maybe when viewed like that Public schools will get better!!
Queso1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Public school is about to get a lot worse.
They paid for their wars with your tax dollars and also with your untaxed dollars. Inflation is theft.
Silent For Too Long
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I disagree. They will be forced to adapt.

If they want to keep good students, maybe they should go back to kicking out the bad ones
Rocky Rider
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
But will they? Or will all the good teachers go to private schools that want to focus on reading, writing, and arithmetic thus relegating public schools to 2nd or 3rd tier status.
Silent For Too Long
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Some might. Some will adapt. The total market will have new data on what is working and what isn't.

All good things.
AW 1880
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I sit on a (not the) board for our school district. They are taking measures to be more competitive (e.g inexpensive but effective social media ads to attract students in nearby districts) and cost efficient (e.g., evaluating teacher performance and 'ROI' of non-teaching positions). I've been impressed how they are approaching it.
TA-OP
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.


Off the charts irony.

I'm Gipper
Old Army Ghost
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.
teachers want more pay and less work. They care only about themselves not our kids
Old Army has gone to hell.
doubledog
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I do not see a problem. If your student does not attend a private school now, then most likely they will be put on a waiting list, except for Kindergarten and even then there will be legacy enrollments.

What I do see will be new for-profit private schools popping up across the state.
Over_ed
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Rocky Rider said:

But will they? Or will all the good teachers go to private schools that want to focus on reading, writing, and arithmetic thus relegating public schools to 2nd or 3rd tier status.

Off the top of my head:

The "advantage" of public education for a teacher -- pension?, chance to move into administration for bigger bucks, low expectations for performance, help the underserved.

Advantages of private school - better kids, much better work environment, greater chance to be successful in kids outcomes, personal safety.

I can see an attraction to both. But, yes, good teachers will leave if there are more private school openings.

TRM
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

teachers want more pay and less work. They care only about themselves not our kids

I'll agree with this, but I think some the work is they don't want to do is the NCLB garbage.
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Queso1 said:

Public school is about to get a lot worse.

Are public schools socialist or capitalist?

Because if TrumpRx is socialism, then mandatory confiscation of wealth to fund public education regardless of whether you have a child in school or not feels a lot like socialism to me.

Let us know.
Ag87H2O
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

The teachers have had more than their share of input, and it has only gotten worse.

Heaven forbid the right demand some accountability, introduce a little competition, and that some of their money be used to give parents more opportunity for a choice in where they send their kids to school.
TXAG 05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Just want to know where I can get my voucher/refund for paying taxes and not having any kids.
Owlagdad
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Silent For Too Long said:

I disagree. They will be forced to adapt.

If they want to keep good students, maybe they should go back to kicking out the bad ones


That's all that is needed, wouldn't cost anything either. And whoever is kicked out is prevented from drawing welfare etc.
Guarantee you private schools don't put up with turds- well, they will for awhile if the parents have lots of bucks and influence. But will eventually get rid of them. Public schools don't have that luxury anymore.
Martin Cash
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TRM said:

Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

teachers want more pay and less work. They care only about themselves not our kids

I'll agree with this, but I think some the work is they don't want to do is the NCLB garbage.

Were you left behind?
Bird Poo
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Silent For Too Long said:

I disagree. They will be forced to adapt.

If they want to keep good students, maybe they should go back to kicking out the bad ones


Finally!!!!!

Some common sense.
GAC06
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
People are really pretending that low performing schools are the fault of teachers and administrators and not that they're comprised of low performing children from low performing parents?
SociallyConditionedAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
My educator wife's first job out of college was a teaching position at a private school. Most of the students were children of military families who didn't want their children in a public school and sacrificed to do so. The school was priced very economically because of it and the teachers were paid low wages. She made $18k in 2001 with no benefits but she absolutely loved it and learned a huge amount in her time there. People who have this idea that private schools are just for the upper class and are always expensive have no idea of the diversity available. The families, children, teachers, and staff all have a vested interest and care about the families and children.
samurai_science
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

We know money does not work, its proven. So what do the teachers need? 90% of them are not able to work in the private sector, its the reason they became teachers.



How about they better themselves.
samurai_science
How long do you want to ignore this user?
GAC06 said:

People are really pretending that low performing schools are the fault of teachers and administrators and not that they're comprised of low performing children from low performing parents?

Who cares, they will never get better so why waste resources on them?
Silent For Too Long
How long do you want to ignore this user?
GAC06 said:

People are really pretending that low performing schools are the fault of teachers and administrators and not that they're comprised of low performing children from low performing parents?


I think people are well aware of the challenges in certain school districts. That why I want good students a chance to get out and not be sucked into the black hole of low expectations.

I also hope the schools adapt around the children who can't leave. Enforced discipline. More trade school opportunities. Maybe better sex and drug education.

Instead of continuing this insane one size fits all inclusion bull**** progressives have been trying with for decades, let's let schools specialize.

Also, let's go back to treating public education as a privilege instead of an entitlement.
AozorAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

Public schools are where they are because we've been letting them decide what's best for themselves. Time to give them some competition. Destroy the cartel.
TA-OP
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Silent For Too Long said:

GAC06 said:

People are really pretending that low performing schools are the fault of teachers and administrators and not that they're comprised of low performing children from low performing parents?


I think people are well aware of the challenges in certain school districts. That why I want good students a chance to get out and not be sucked into the black hole of low expectations.

I also hope the schools adapt around the children who can't leave. Enforced discipline. More trade school opportunities. Maybe better sex and drug education.

Instead of continuing this insane one size fits all inclusion bull**** progressives have been trying with for decades, let's let schools specialize.

Also, let's go back to treating public education as a privilege instead of an entitlement.
Most of you must not live in Texas where public school is mandated by the state Constitution. Like the previous post… it's liberal's fault for not specializing schools? What? The state has been under GOP control for how long? And yet, the TEA still controls what must be taught.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
GAC06 said:

People are really pretending that low performing schools are the fault of teachers and administrators and not that they're comprised of low performing children from low performing parents?



Both are to blame!

I'm Gipper
Squadron7
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The kids have all the power in the schools now. And they know it.

richardag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

teachers want more pay and less work. They care only about themselves not our kids

Teachers are underpaid for the effect they have on society.
Problem is the administrative bureaucracy has grown exponentially, sucking up resources to shuffle papers to meet other bureaucracy's idiotic demands.
Our youngest daughter is a special needs teacher and the amount of work she does is horrendous.She does it because it is rewarding to see children grow and parents see that growth. The parents let her know how much it positively affected their child.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
58-7
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

teachers want more pay and less work. They care only about themselves not our kids

What a lazy comment. You describe maybe 10-15% of the teachers I worked with in my 36 yrs in education in Texas (and we worked hard to invite that percentage to other careers outside of education). The vast majority of educators are conscientious, hard workers, and love children….and deserve support. If that was your experience as a student I hate that for you. If that is your experience as an adult you have many options for your kids.
flown-the-coop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TA-OP said:

Silent For Too Long said:

GAC06 said:

People are really pretending that low performing schools are the fault of teachers and administrators and not that they're comprised of low performing children from low performing parents?


I think people are well aware of the challenges in certain school districts. That why I want good students a chance to get out and not be sucked into the black hole of low expectations.

I also hope the schools adapt around the children who can't leave. Enforced discipline. More trade school opportunities. Maybe better sex and drug education.

Instead of continuing this insane one size fits all inclusion bull**** progressives have been trying with for decades, let's let schools specialize.

Also, let's go back to treating public education as a privilege instead of an entitlement.
Most of you must not live in Texas where public school is mandated by the state Constitution. Like the previous post… it's liberal's fault for not specializing schools? What? The state has been under GOP control for how long? And yet, the TEA still controls what must be taught.


You kidding with this crappola? All the school districts that have been taken over or closed down by the state have been in liberal hellholes. Houston, Beaumont, FW, La Marque.

Failing schools correlate to liberal run municipalities at nearly a 100% rate.

Next just trot out Randi Weingartner to explain everything to us like we have amnesia.
samurai_science
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Heaven forbid the right ask the teachers what they need to be successful. Daddy government knows best in these parts, though.

teachers want more pay and less work. They care only about themselves not our kids

More pay does not work, its well studied and has been tried in Democrat urban areas. You could pay the teachers 250k a year and it would make NO DIFFERENCE.


But you are right, most of them can't cut it in the private sector.
Silent For Too Long
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TA-OP said:

Silent For Too Long said:

GAC06 said:

People are really pretending that low performing schools are the fault of teachers and administrators and not that they're comprised of low performing children from low performing parents?


I think people are well aware of the challenges in certain school districts. That why I want good students a chance to get out and not be sucked into the black hole of low expectations.

I also hope the schools adapt around the children who can't leave. Enforced discipline. More trade school opportunities. Maybe better sex and drug education.

Instead of continuing this insane one size fits all inclusion bull**** progressives have been trying with for decades, let's let schools specialize.

Also, let's go back to treating public education as a privilege instead of an entitlement.
Most of you must not live in Texas where public school is mandated by the state Constitution. Like the previous post… it's liberal's fault for not specializing schools? What? The state has been under GOP control for how long? And yet, the TEA still controls what must be taught.


I was a certified teacher in Texas. I'm well aware of how pedagogy has been overwhelmingly controlled by progressives for decades.

The GOP has had their blunders in education as well. NCLB being one of them. However the lions share of blame falls on the insane pedagogical training on the left. The people who tried to get rid of phonics and replace it with dog **** like site reading. The people who got rid of special needs and GT classes and replaced it with inclusion.

School choice is what we need to rectify the situation.
pdc093
How long do you want to ignore this user?
'....and growing'

Here's ONE example of WHY....


AND they will get class 'credit'
Jarrin Jay
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Both my boys are in private school and we will realize exactly $0.00 from this program.

The absolute first measure should have been if you are private or home schooling that should exempt you from ISD taxes until the kids are 18+.

Many public schools are an absolute S show - way too much virtue / social / political BS and messaging, too much waste of taxpayer $$, not enough focus on basic education, responsible use of taxpayer $, etc.
TheMasterplan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Let's ask the clients. The taxpayers.

Public schools are government. So are you asking to eliminate public schools?
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.