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Gaeilge said:

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BREAKING:

Suicide drones are attacking a U.S. military base in Erbil, Iraq.

Fighter jets are flying over Iraq, trying to shoot down the drones which have reportedly been launched from Iran. pic.twitter.com/RY6hi3TKso

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) May 6, 2026

Game on?

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That should put an end to the cease fire...

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The negotiation is close, so the hardliners are trying to ruin it.

Don't fall for it while we're at the goalline.

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I'm willing to bet Trump and his advisers know more than we do.

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I hope and pray this is right, because the delay tactics by Iran are frustrating. Just bomb all the radicals into oblivion until the only ones left to negotiate are the politicians who are reasonable and don't want nukes. They could go back to having a free and prosperous country if they will do that.

Only way to outright win is to invade. Trump wont do it. So cut the best declare vuctory and move on. Iran has been set back some. We can do it again next year.....lol

[Take the political commentary to a different thread -- Staff]

MORE INFO: WSJ: Washington has presented Tehran with an updated nuclear proposal.

If accepted, both sides would enter a 30 day negotiation phase focused on final technical details.

Key U.S. demands include:

• Iran formally declaring it is not pursuing a nuclear weapon

•… https://t.co/WQr9ZXWy00

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) May 7, 2026

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I can guarantee you Trump isn't giving them any money like Obama.

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How can you possibly make that guarantee, given previous reports of frozen assets to be released? I also haven't seen anything stating we've stopped sending the Taliban cash either, so I have very little faith that our tax dollars are not going to Iran at some point.

🚨Satellites have detected a massive oil spill spreading across a vast area of the Persian Gulf around Iran's Kharg Island.

Synthetic aperture radar imagery shows a large surface slick emanating from the waters around Kharg Island, Iran's primary crude oil export terminal… pic.twitter.com/OcxVKCAYkQ

— Jack Prandelli (@jackprandelli) May 7, 2026

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Yes they're very good at what they do. And they haven't been sitting on their hands for the last few weeks. You can bet they have something cooking.

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Judging from my research, those pots have been simmering on the stove a long time.

I'm sure our CIA field agents are good. But I have doubts they are as patient as Mossad agents.

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CIA is the best in the world at electronic methods

but the Mossad is the best in the world at human agents on the ground in Iran

because they have been recruiting members of the IRGC and enforcement agencies for twenty years

and because there are many Israelis who were born in Iran

or their parents and grandparents were born in Iran so they can pass as legitimate Iranians walking around the streets of Teheran

Or both

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Rockdoc said:

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I'm willing to bet Trump and his advisers know more than we do.

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I hope and pray this is right, because the delay tactics by Iran are frustrating. Just bomb all the radicals into oblivion until the only ones left to negotiate are the politicians who are reasonable and don't want nukes. They could go back to having a free and prosperous country if they will do that.

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You can't just bomb people and hope their replacements are any better. In most cases the lower levels of organizations ARE EVEN MORE RADICAL, because they have no experience in dealing with the realities of governing/leadership and the moderation that requires.

Not to mention most of the people you want to bomb are spread out now all across the huge country, and hiding among civilians.

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Keep killing them until Muslim terrorist behavior is eliminated.

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Hmmm, probably going to need to kill hundreds of thousands if not millions. I'm sure you have some ideas on how to get that done, because bombs aren't going to cut it.

That's why you keep them hemmed in and under blockade until they capitulate to satisfactory terms.

The ones in power want to stay there because it is their best chance to remain protected from their own populace. If their economy continues to collapse due to no state oil revenues, and their military and police and administrators go unpaid and cannot purchase basic goods, and start to suffer and become more unruly, that's when the Iranian leadeship will be forced to make the hard choices. Capitulation or counter-revolution byban angry and bitter population.

We can sit back and wait. Time is on our side, ultimately. We're not the ones with triple digit inflation, running out of gasoline, water, and eventually food, and with most of the rest of the eorld getting more and more angry at harassment of strait traffic.

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Tailgate88 said:

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Rockdoc said:

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I'm willing to bet Trump and his advisers know more than we do.

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I hope and pray this is right, because the delay tactics by Iran are frustrating. Just bomb all the radicals into oblivion until the only ones left to negotiate are the politicians who are reasonable and don't want nukes. They could go back to having a free and prosperous country if they will do that.

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You can't just bomb people and hope their replacements are any better. In most cases the lower levels of organizations ARE EVEN MORE RADICAL, because they have no experience in dealing with the realities of governing/leadership and the moderation that requires.

Not to mention most of the people you want to bomb are spread out now all across the huge country, and hiding among civilians.

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that's just wrong.

it's like saying "we can't kill Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, Himmler because the younger guys are more fanatical"

but there was a REASON that those guys were in control in the first place.

Israel eliminated Hassan Nasrallah in Beirut, and his three replacements are nowhere near as good as he was at being an arch terrorist leader.

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You are forcing this to get off-topic but I feel like I must respond.

Yes there are several documented instances where Hitler remarked there were junior people he thought were TOO radical.

you can't bomb thoughts out of people

Full metal jacket line: "...our job is to arrange the meeting."

The U.S. and Iran are moving toward a temporary deal to halt fighting, though major disputes remain unresolved. Tehran is reviewing a one-page proposal focused on ending the war, reopening the Strait of Hormuz, and starting 30 days of broader negotiations.

The draft avoids key… pic.twitter.com/rt9TAnGT6O

— Clash Report (@clashreport) May 7, 2026

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I think if bomb placement is correct, then you certainly can remove thoughts from people,

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No doubt.

Plus the "bad" thoughts in Iran are limited to about 10% of the population at best. I am not sure if any of the Khomenis enjoyed popular support amongst the people of Iran.

Deerdude said:

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I think if bomb placement is correct, then you certainly can remove thoughts from people,

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Drop enough bombs and you can certainly discourage the survivors from acting on those thoughts

Well I was leaning toward removal of thinkers of those thoughts.

Deerdude said:

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Well I was leaning toward removal of thinkers of those thoughts.

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Get er done.

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Deerdude said:

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I think if bomb placement is correct, then you certainly can remove thoughts from people,

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Drop enough bombs and you can certainly discourage the survivors from acting on those thoughts

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Or maybe if we bomb the country too much and blow up their current quality of life more Iranians will sympathize with the radicals and only embolden their support.

We have seen this movie before.

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agent-maroon said:

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Deerdude said:

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I think if bomb placement is correct, then you certainly can remove thoughts from people,

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Drop enough bombs and you can certainly discourage the survivors from acting on those thoughts

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Or maybe if we bomb the country too much and blow up their current quality of life more Iranians will sympathize with the radicals and only embolden their support.

We have seen this movie before.

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Oh come on.

Agador Spartacus said:

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txags92 said:

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Gaeilge said:

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BREAKING:

Suicide drones are attacking a U.S. military base in Erbil, Iraq.

Fighter jets are flying over Iraq, trying to shoot down the drones which have reportedly been launched from Iran. pic.twitter.com/RY6hi3TKso

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) May 6, 2026

Game on?

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That should put an end to the cease fire...

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The negotiation is close, so the hardliners are trying to ruin it.

Don't fall for it while we're at the goalline.

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I hope they reject the current offer and we go back in and bomb remaining military assets and infrastructure

Israel is not happy about making a deal, I wouldn't be either, we have them by the balls. Israel probably has all the leaders locations as well

With us having the blockade and an open lane for shipping, I just do not understand the rush to make a deal, a deal that might as well be written on toilet paper. Oil prices will fall with that open lane, giving even more reason on not making a deal

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Synthetic aperture radar imagery shows a large surface slick emanating from the waters around Kharg Island, Iran's primary crude oil export terminal responsible for roughly 90% of the country's oil exports.

At the time of detection, multiple tankers were simultaneously loading at the Kharg Island terminal.

It is not yet clear whether the spill originated from a loading operation, a vessel, subsea infrastructure, or the terminal itself.

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My guess is the supertankers were not checked out before they were towed to Kharg. They are leaking.

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Either that or the Iranians believe that dumping the oil in the gulf is a better option than shutting in the wells and destroying their future production.

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easily predicted outcome