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CanyonAg77 said:

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I will tell you with experience that red topped "Round Up" sucks ass.

Well, as I explained, it is not Roundup. It's other chemicals under the Roundup name.

Not aimed at you, but people need to read the label.

It's as if Coca-Cola starting putting lemonade in Coke cans and still putting "Coke" on the label


You are correct here, as I did not know it had changed. Only reason I bought the red topped was because I could not find the purple topped Super Concentrate version (higher % Glyphosate). Wasted $$ on a couple bottles and then read the label. And I'm a weed killer label reader now, cause if it doesn't have Glyphosate, I won't waste my $$$.

There's always Diesel.

ETA: back in the 70s and 80s, we'd pour our used oil from changes around the culverts in the ditches so we did not have to weedeat them. Cut way down on theF-ing skeeters when it rained as well.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Teslag said:

CanyonAg77 said:

Roundup does not cause cancer.

It is absolutely necessary to US Agriculture.

I don't really give a crap what RFK "ran on"

The lawsuits against Monsanto are not scientifically based


Amen, and it's good to hear that coming from an American Farmer.

There is absolutely nothing unsafe with glyphosate used as recommended. It's complete liberal hippie granola dumbassery to think otherwise.


You either want to have a solid food supply or you don't.

Roundup gives us that.

EOT.
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That's why I was born with 12 toes you jerk! My nickname was Pinky for 18 years because of you!
Old Sarge
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Nice to meet you, Pinky.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Wearer of the Ring said:

Canyon ... I was referring to this study:

https://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Article/2026/02/08/florida-glyphosate-bread-tests-put-food-safety-rules-to-test/


Seems as though the active ingredient made it all the way into the flour stage.

Having followed your posts for years I know you know more about farming than I know about anything. How does that happen? Is it supposed to "wear off" after x number of days? Or is applied in such small amounts that its not a danger? Maybe you can explain this to a self confessed igmo.


Every product used in agriculture has many years of research put in to establishing safe levels of exposure. The epa sets these levels, and every product has approved labeled rates and timings meant to keep residue under those levels. I used to do this type of research on experimental chemicals. FYI there are also safe levels for things like fungus and insect parts… but that's a different story.

The levels detected in that study are 180 parts per billion. That is like 180 seconds out of 31 years. That is well below the established level that the EPA considered safe. And the EPA would ban it on the spot if it showed up at unsafe levels.

I did the math and at that level you would need to eat about 600000 pounds of bread in 24 hours to get to harmful levels of glyphosate exposure.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Maroon Elephant said:

What I've read before is that he surfactant ingredient in Roundup is more acutely toxic than glyphosate itself and the combination of the two is even more toxic. Maybe that's a myth and I've been duped. Still never gonna use it around my house. BTW, I'm no hippie, far from it.


American agriculture depends on Roundup. The poster above was absolutely correct about $30 bread without it.

I buy bread from a glyphosate free bakery and it's $6-$8 a loaf. Sure, more expensive than the bread that doesn't go bad for a month, but I'm happy to pay a bit of a premium to ensure I get good bread.

FWIW, I don't buy the bread specifically because it's glyphosate free. Although, I do appreciate that aspect of it.
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MavsAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Maroon Elephant said:

What I've read before is that he surfactant ingredient in Roundup is more acutely toxic than glyphosate itself and the combination of the two is even more toxic. Maybe that's a myth and I've been duped. Still never gonna use it around my house. BTW, I'm no hippie, far from it.


American agriculture depends on Roundup. The poster above was absolutely correct about $30 bread without it.

I buy bread from a glyphosate free bakery and it's $6-$8 a loaf. Sure, more expensive than the bread that doesn't go bad for a month, but I'm happy to pay a bit of a premium to ensure I get good bread.

FWIW, I don't buy the bread specifically because it's glyphosate free. Although, I do appreciate that aspect of it.


If you think that price is indicative of what bread would cost in a roundup free US, you are wrong.

The absolute scale of US agriculture and how important roundup is…that boutique **** is a drop in the bucket.
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SunrayAg said:

Wearer of the Ring said:

Canyon ... I was referring to this study:

https://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Article/2026/02/08/florida-glyphosate-bread-tests-put-food-safety-rules-to-test/


Seems as though the active ingredient made it all the way into the flour stage.

Having followed your posts for years I know you know more about farming than I know about anything. How does that happen? Is it supposed to "wear off" after x number of days? Or is applied in such small amounts that its not a danger? Maybe you can explain this to a self confessed igmo.


Every product used in agriculture has many years of research put in to establishing safe levels of exposure. The epa sets these levels, and every product has approved labeled rates and timings meant to keep residue under those levels. I used to do this type of research on experimental chemicals. BYE there are also safe levels for things like fungus and insect parts… but that's a different story.

The levels detected in that study are 180 parts per billion. That is like 180 seconds out of 31 years. That is well below the established level that the EPA considered safe. And the EPA would ban it on the spot if it showed up at unsafe levels.

Wait, so now we believe the government when they say something is safe?
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Glyphosate is safe and effective.
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Wearer of the Ring said:

Canyon ... I was referring to this study:

https://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Article/2026/02/08/florida-glyphosate-bread-tests-put-food-safety-rules-to-test/


Seems as though the active ingredient made it all the way into the flour stage.

Having followed your posts for years I know you know more about farming than I know about anything. How does that happen? Is it supposed to "wear off" after x number of days? Or is applied in such small amounts that its not a danger? Maybe you can explain this to a self confessed igmo.


I'm just going to put some perspective on that article you linked.

The data for glyphosate in bread came from 8 samples tested by the Florida Department of Health.

The analytical methods used to quantify glyphosate are not simple or straightforward. It's a challenging analysis to do. That's not to say the Florida Department of Health isn't capable of making this measurement, but there is absolutely nothing in the article to indicate they used the correct methods. And they only analyzed 8 samples.

Also, the article states that the highest amount of glyphosate measured was about 190 parts per billion. This is could be getting close to the limit of quantification, depending on the test method used. Meaning - this result may not be reliable given the limitations of the analytical method. Contamination also becomes a real issue at low levels.

The article states that the EPA tolerance for glyphosate is 30 parts per million (equivalent to 30000 parts per billion). The amount measured in the testing is 150 times below that limit.

According to the article, the limit in the EU is 700 parts per billion. The UK, Australia, and New Zealand have a limit of 5000 parts per billion.

So, what the lab measured is well below any maximum residual level.

Yet, the Florida State Surgeon General was quoted in the article as saying "Our testing found high levels of glyphosate in some popular bread brands".

Talk about fear mongering at its finest. I don't know what agenda the State of Florida has here, but their "experts" clearly don't understand what "high levels" mean in this context.

The First Lady of Florida was quoted as saying these are "troubling levels of glyphosate", which is flat out wrong based on international standards.

The Food Babe, the ultimate fear-mongering idiot influencer is also quoted. Don't get me started on her.

I get that not everyone can understand chemistry and analytical methods, but allowing people in positions of authority to make statements like this that are NOT supported by the data (and provide no information to even validate the data) is everything that is wrong with science in this country.

People like to say they don't believe the scientists - and there are some bad ones out there - but the people spreading misinformation are by and large those who either 1) have no credible knowledge in the area or 2) purposefully want to spread misinformation.

Don't listen to these people. Talk to friends and family who have real expertise in this area. If you are skeptical about climate change, be skeptical about chemistry fear, and look for credible articles that refute the fear mongering. Or read some journal articles and use your own logic abilities to see if the conclusions being spread are even supported by the data.

Quit giving value to nebulous and unregulated marketing terms like "clean", "green", and "non-toxic". Don't jump to the conclusion that, just because something is labeled as "organic" or "non-GMO", it's healthier or safer.

This advice goes for glyphosate, microplastics, PFAS, "endocrine disrupting chemicals", heavy metals, and anything else that the media is trying to fear monger about.
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shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.
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Why are there so many grown me, Aggies no less, that are complete *******?
Wearer of the Ring
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Thnx Sunray.

I can eat that much bread easy.

JK

Thnx for insights.
I feel so much better since about 11 a.m. CT on 20 Jan. 2025
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TXTransplant said:

Wearer of the Ring said:

Canyon ... I was referring to this study:

https://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Article/2026/02/08/florida-glyphosate-bread-tests-put-food-safety-rules-to-test/


Seems as though the active ingredient made it all the way into the flour stage.

Having followed your posts for years I know you know more about farming than I know about anything. How does that happen? Is it supposed to "wear off" after x number of days? Or is applied in such small amounts that its not a danger? Maybe you can explain this to a self confessed igmo.


I'm just going to put some perspective on that article you linked.

The data for glyphosate in bread came from 8 samples tested by the Florida Department of Health.

The analytical methods used to quantify glyphosate are not simple or straightforward. It's a challenging analysis to do. That's not to say the Florida Department of Health isn't capable of making this measurement, but there is absolutely nothing in the article to indicate they used the correct methods. And they only analyzed 8 samples.

Also, the article states that the highest amount of glyphosate measured was about 190 parts per billion. This is could be getting close to the limit of quantification, depending on the test method used. Meaning - this result may not be reliable given the limitations of the analytical method. Contamination also becomes a real issue at low levels.

The article states that the EPA tolerance for glyphosate is 30 parts per million (equivalent to 30000 parts per billion). The amount measured in the testing is 150 times below that limit.

According to the article, the limit in the EU is 700 parts per billion. The UK, Australia, and New Zealand have a limit of 5000 parts per billion.

So, what the lab measured is well below any maximum residual level.

Yet, the Florida State Surgeon General was quoted in the article as saying "Our testing found high levels of glyphosate in some popular bread brands".

Talk about fear mongering at its finest. I don't know what agenda the State of Florida has here, but their "experts" clearly don't understand what "high levels" mean in this context.

The First Lady of Florida was quoted as saying these are "troubling levels of glyphosate", which is flat out wrong based on international standards.

The Food Babe, the ultimate fear-mongering idiot influencer is also quoted. Don't get me started on her.

I get that not everyone can understand chemistry and analytical methods, but allowing people in positions of authority to make statements like this that are NOT supported by the data (and provide no information to even validate the data) is everything that is wrong with science in this country.

People like to say they don't believe the scientists - and there are some bad ones out there - but the people spreading misinformation are by and large those who either 1) have no credible knowledge in the area or 2) purposefully want to spread misinformation.

Don't listen to these people. Talk to friends and family who have real expertise in this area. If you are skeptical about climate change, be skeptical about chemistry fear, and look for credible articles that refute the fear mongering. Or read some journal articles and use your own logic abilities to see if the conclusions being spread are even supported by the data.

Quit giving value to nebulous and unregulated marketing terms like "clean", "green", and "non-toxic". Don't jump to the conclusion that, just because something is labeled as "organic" or "non-GMO", it's healthier or safer.

This advice goes for glyphosate, microplastics, PFAS, "endocrine disrupting chemicals", heavy metals, and anything else that the media is trying to fear monger about.
our queen

Excellent write up.
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MavsAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Maroon Elephant said:

What I've read before is that he surfactant ingredient in Roundup is more acutely toxic than glyphosate itself and the combination of the two is even more toxic. Maybe that's a myth and I've been duped. Still never gonna use it around my house. BTW, I'm no hippie, far from it.


American agriculture depends on Roundup. The poster above was absolutely correct about $30 bread without it.

I buy bread from a glyphosate free bakery and it's $6-$8 a loaf. Sure, more expensive than the bread that doesn't go bad for a month, but I'm happy to pay a bit of a premium to ensure I get good bread.

FWIW, I don't buy the bread specifically because it's glyphosate free. Although, I do appreciate that aspect of it.


OK, I have to ask. Do they grow their own wheat? Do they test every bag of flour? How do they prove to be glyphosate free? Or is it just marketing?
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I agree the Roundup lawsuit was junk and not based on independent science. Clever plaintiffs attorneys have been wrapping emotion into lawsuits for decades and landing favorable judgments in spite of the science.

We used glyphosate by the 55 gallon drum and sprayed from helicopters across millions of acres of forestland to control vegetation that competed with the cash crop. I've also applied it personally for decades with no issues. The key is to follow the label requirements for application.

Good to see common sense leading the way.
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Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.
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shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.
you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

So interesting seeing people defend chemicals and stuff when it aligns with their interests or political views, but against it when it doesn't. Instead of focusing of what the evidence shows or doesn't show (or calling for more studies).

Glyphosate has been studied to death and is safe.
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You could have saved a lot of time by saying it was a movie no one has seen.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Roundup does not cause cancer.

It is absolutely necessary to US Agriculture.

I don't really give a crap what RFK "ran on"

The lawsuits against Monsanto are not scientifically based



Yes! Thank you!
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Wearer of the Ring said:

Canyon ... I was referring to this study:


Others have already mentioned the flawed study and the incredibly small amounts found.

I'm a little surprised that any glyphosate shows up in bread. First, there is no GMO wheat, so you can't apply it when wheat is actively growing. Some will use roundup as a harvest aid. If there's too many weeds at harvest, they kill weeds a week or more before the combine to dry the weeds out.

Wheat is no longer actively growing at that point, so it can't translocate. And the seed is in a husk that gets removed at harvest. Roundup readily attaches to dust and gets inactivated, so none of it should still be "active".

Then it gets processed into flour and baked. I have a hard time imagining it still being intact at that point.

Even if it was, what do you think happens to i when it hits your stomach acid?
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CanyonAg77 said:

bigtruckguy3500 said:

So interesting seeing people defend chemicals and stuff when it aligns with their interests or political views, but against it when it doesn't. Instead of focusing of what the evidence shows or doesn't show (or calling for more studies).

Glyphosate has been studied to death and is safe.

I'm just saying what I see. There are plenty of chemicals and environmental contaminants and stuff that haven't been studied extensively that people are saying are safe because the "other guys" say it's dangerous, and vice versa.
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Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.


Oh, good As a "Reagan Republican " that should change his mind.
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Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.

you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.

To what degree RFK believes what he says remains to be seen. He's very anti-science and believes a whole lot of hogwash and has done untold damage to science, medicine and health.

And the ONE time that Trump shuts him down is to increase Roundup. Everything else, Trump lets him run over and destroy.
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shiftyandquick said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.

you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.

To what degree RFK believes what he says remains to be seen. He's very anti-science and believes a whole lot of hogwash and has done untold damage to science, medicine and health.

And the ONE time that Trump shuts him down is to increase Roundup. Everything else, Trump lets him run over and destroy.
like what - be specific
bigtruckguy3500
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Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.

you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.

To what degree RFK believes what he says remains to be seen. He's very anti-science and believes a whole lot of hogwash and has done untold damage to science, medicine and health.

And the ONE time that Trump shuts him down is to increase Roundup. Everything else, Trump lets him run over and destroy.

like what - be specific

Does this count?
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.

you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.

To what degree RFK believes what he says remains to be seen. He's very anti-science and believes a whole lot of hogwash and has done untold damage to science, medicine and health.

And the ONE time that Trump shuts him down is to increase Roundup. Everything else, Trump lets him run over and destroy.

like what - be specific

Does this count?
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html
statistically irrelevant measles cases? What is your point?
CanyonAg77
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Is RFK against measles vaccination?
shiftyandquick
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Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.

you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.

To what degree RFK believes what he says remains to be seen. He's very anti-science and believes a whole lot of hogwash and has done untold damage to science, medicine and health.

And the ONE time that Trump shuts him down is to increase Roundup. Everything else, Trump lets him run over and destroy.

like what - be specific

I've got things to do tonight, so can't respond in detail. Just do a few google searches and look at some sites that aren't MAGA. You'll find a lot of information.
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Ragoo said:

bigtruckguy3500 said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.

you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.

To what degree RFK believes what he says remains to be seen. He's very anti-science and believes a whole lot of hogwash and has done untold damage to science, medicine and health.

And the ONE time that Trump shuts him down is to increase Roundup. Everything else, Trump lets him run over and destroy.

like what - be specific

Does this count?
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

statistically irrelevant measles cases? What is your point?

convincing people to stop vaccinating their children? Leading to outbreaks that cost 100's of thousands of dollars (or more) in hospitalizations, 3 deaths last year (70 deaths in Samoa), and the potential for more disease outbreaks of other types, or sequelae from preventable illness? You wanted an example. I gave one.

In 2017 it cost almost a million dollars to keep an unvaccinated 6 year old alive when he got tetanus. I saw an unvaccinated child get hospitalized for 3 days recently due to febrile seizures from rotavirus infection. I've seen quite a few hospitalized for other vaccine preventable illnesses (pneumonia, RSV (new vaccine), meningitis, the flu, etc.). Some may seem statistically insignificant. But added together, they have a real effect on healthcare cost and utilization of resources.
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yeah; domestic production of roundup is needed for national security. therefore RFK jr is a hypocrite. hence, we should bring back this guy, right commies?




at least Joe Biden and this guy knew we needed to source more plexiglass from China to eradicate the deadly covid 19 disease before opening schools back up.
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shiftyandquick said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Ragoo said:

shiftyandquick said:

Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

ETFan said:

It's almost like they don't have a single principled bone in their body and just follow the money no matter what. Crazy stuff.

Not being partisan. Both sides are trash.

The White House told RFK to shut his pie hole about Roundup and get in line.

And that's what RFK has done. He's gotten in line.

Now you know why RFK is always wearing jeans. He's afraid of taking it in the shorts yet again.



hey there my liberal friend....

Roundup was introduced in the early 70s and was well established during the 1980s/90s when Reagan/Bush were Prez.

You will note that I have made no comment about roundup's safety.

I am noting that RFK ran on shutting down roundup, and just now endorsed increasing roundup because Trump told him to.

That's all I am saying.

you mean trump told him to stop being a ***** and instead use his brain. Neat.

To what degree RFK believes what he says remains to be seen. He's very anti-science and believes a whole lot of hogwash and has done untold damage to science, medicine and health.

And the ONE time that Trump shuts him down is to increase Roundup. Everything else, Trump lets him run over and destroy.

like what - be specific

I've got things to do tonight, so can't respond in detail. Just do a few google searches and look at some sites that aren't MAGA. You'll find a lot of information.
no. I'm not doing the research for you.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Is RFK against measles vaccination?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak
" In June 2019, American anti-vaccination activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. visited Samoa to meet with local anti-vaccination activists including Taylor Winterstein and Edwin Tamanese, whom he called a "medical freedom hero". Kennedy also discussed vaccines with then-Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak#cite_note-28][28][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak#cite_note-29][29][/url] and campaigned against the vaccine on social media.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak#cite_note-30][30][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak#cite_note-31][31][/url]"

He has repeatedly made misleading statements suggesting that there are alternatives to vaccination that are just as good, or that the vaccine loses efficacy after a few years, or that vaccinated mothers don't provide any immunity or protection to their kids. But he has also stated, after a lot of public pressure, that the vaccine is the best way to prevent it.
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oh no said:

yeah; domestic production of roundup is needed for national security. therefore RFK jr is a hypocrite. hence, we should bring back this guy, right commies?




at least Joe Biden and this guy knew we needed to source more plexiglass from China to eradicate the deadly covid 19 disease before opening schools back up.

Both sides can be wrong, you know? Stop thinking in binary. Doesn't matter who you vote for, politicians work for the people. Make them work for us, not for special interest.
 
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