PaulsBunions said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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You can have round up

Or you can eat

But not both

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People weren't eating before 1974?

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We had other herbicides, and they were used. Round up was better, so that's what we went to

Which is a good thing. We have 130 million more people than we did back then

Round up ain't gonna hurt you. Eat your damn meat or no pudding for you

Captain Pablo said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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You can have round up

Or you can eat

But not both

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People weren't eating before 1974?

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We had other herbicides, and they were used. Round up was better, so that's what we went to

Which is a good thing. We have 130 million more people than we did back then

Round up ain't gonna hurt you. Eat your damn meat or no pudding for you

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Cool, if its so safe they shouldn't be immune from lawsuit then.

A lawsuit doesn't mean there is substance or cause to the claim.

"First kill all the lawyers"

shiftyandquick said:

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RFK ran on stopping Roundup. RFK just endorsed increasing Roundup.

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Corporations.

What else did you expect? They must have paid off the administration. That is the American way.

goags2 said:

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A lawsuit doesn't mean there is substance or cause to the claim.

"First kill all the lawyers"

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Sure, let the court decide if there were damages or not. We don't need daddy government to step in and provide immunity to a foreign corporation in a civil dispute between the two parties.

PaulsBunions said:

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B-1 83 said:

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Here's the complete list of peer reviewed definitive studies proving glyphosate causes cancer:



It remains the most studied herbicide in history and is simply not sprayed on but.a tiny fraction of food crops in amounts detectable in ppB.

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A chemical so safe you shouldn't even be allowed to prove your case in court in a suit against Bayer!

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The original civil suit against Monsanto was a circus with an idiotic jury barren of anyone with a scientific background, dubious evidence, and questionable rulings by the judge against the defense.

CrackerJackAg said:

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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You can have round up

Or you can eat

But not both

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People weren't eating before 1974?

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The "we need roundup" people are stupid.

Other countries don't use it.

Wheat here is ***** Farmers are not ultra smart scientists. They just do what they are told to do and that's about it. Each farmer isn't out there innovating.

The whole "farmers know" is dumb.

That's right up there with my plumber telling me about "the science"

Farmers are pro roundup because it makes their life easier.

I don't care if the price of wheat doubled.

I don't care about poor people that eat trash food and DoorDash complaining about costs.

I don't care about the farmer.

It's not my job to do any of those things.

All of my food is imported from out of country every chance I get and wheat is never USA grown poison.

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No idea where you get your info but Glyphosate (trade name roundup) is a global commodity and since coming off patent China is the worlds largest producer and user.


Without glyphosate or a similar herbicide you can not feed 6BB people

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Don't care…. Eat that **** all you want. I'm not going to. You know what I know for a fact it's better for your health?

Regular ass unmodified wheat without chemicals.

I don't need a paper to tell me that.

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"Unmodified wheat"…………. Please educate us all with you knowledge of "Modified wheat". By saying "without chemicals", I have to assume all of your food is organic.

I am always amazed at the tiny hills people choose to stand their ground. Even if insignificantly small.

For though's who think us farmers should not be using round up/glyphosate, what chemicals do you deem acceptable for us to use?

Iowafarmkid said:

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For though's who think us farmers should not be using round up/glyphosate, what chemicals do you deem acceptable for us to use?

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The certified organic stuff from China… tea tree oil, works wanders.

100% glyphosate free too I bet!

I think they call it something different over there.

Round up isn't what it used to be

Care to explain?

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We have a big network here: Maybe someone got sick or personally knows someone who got sick from Roundup weed killer. No bot stories, just regular 10 finger and toes, former students from Texas A&M with a story.

The townspeople are getting fed up with the boy who cried wolf.

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One of my aerospace classmates' father died of cancer caused by Roundup while I was in school. I don't think he was following manufacturer instructions when he routinely reached into the sprayer tanks bare handed to clear screens.

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Well if that's the case it was nice knowing yall. 48 years old, started running a sprayer at 17 just as RR crops became popular. I've spilled on my clothes and splashed on my skin more glyphosate than most people will ever see in a lifetime.

By label, required PPE for glyphosate usage is long sleeved shirt, pants, shoes, and socks. Chemical resistant gloves are not required.

On another note, when did everyone become so scared of everything? PFAS, Glyphosate, Seed oils…. My grandfather ate "clean" homecooked, local, fresh food his entire life. Fresh milk and butter from his own cows and food from my grandmothers garden, beef and pork from animals he raised. He died of a heart attack at 53 years old in 1978……We are living longer than humans at any previous point in time. From a pure mathematical estimate, complications from obesity will probably kill most of us before chemicals ever get a chance. Relax, eat what you want in moderation, get an annual physical, exercise and enjoy your family.

Are you not just mortified by microplastics and forever chemicals? I can barely sleep.

Iowafarmkid said:

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Care to explain?

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Doesn't seem to work as well as it used to. I remember it was one application and weeds were gone. Now it just seems to yellow the weeds a bit and they come back.

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Iowafarmkid said:

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Care to explain?

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Doesn't seem to work as well as it used to. I remember it was one application and weeds were gone. Now it just seems to yellow the weeds a bit and they come back.

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Industrial Round Up is still the bomb. The stuff they sell in Home Depot not so much.

docb said:

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Iowafarmkid said:

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Care to explain?

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Doesn't seem to work as well as it used to. I remember it was one application and weeds were gone. Now it just seems to yellow the weeds a bit and they come back.

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This can be true, after repeated use in an area you will eventually kill out the most susceptible populations and what is eventually left exhibits some tolerance, if not complete resistance to a herbicide. This is a normal process/problem with popular widely used herbicides. Rotating products with different modes of action is the only way to slow this process.

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Are you not just mortified by microplastics and forever chemicals? I can barely sleep.

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Nah the only things that keep me awake at night are where are the trout going to be and where in the world is my wife going to want to go on vacation next. (Please God not India)

Iowafarmkid said:

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For though's who think us farmers should not be using round up/glyphosate, what chemicals do you deem acceptable for us to use?

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What are organic farms using?

I'm asking because of experience. In the late 90s early 2000s I developed debilitating joint and back pain. I was diagnosed with autoimmune disease and all signs pointed to ankylosing spondylitis. Here's the thing, upon the advice of a very smart doctor I eliminated gluten from my diet. My pain disappeared in 2 weeks. I would test by eating a rather large amount of wheat, in three days the body pain was back. I tested for gluten allergies and celiac… negative. Settled upon a "gluten sensitivity" as the cause and I've been great ever since.

Thing is, recently, I have tried cooking with organic wheat flour…and I'm fine. I believe I was just being poisoned over time by the chemicals. If you are struggling with autoimmune joint pain…try eliminating wheat and see how you feel. My $.02 that has saved me tons of money that I don't have to pay to take humira or cimzia.

Less than 3% of wheat in the U.S. is sprayed with glyphosate as a desiccant and other herbicides used in wheat are used before you get into the reproductive stages so they never come in contact with the seed head. I don't raise wheat so I can't tell you everything about it. On corn, I have to have my herbicides on or before the v8 growth stage (roughly knee to thigh high) otherwise you can actually hurt the yield of the corn by applying to late. Soybeans are the same way and once you get to the r1 growth stage (beginning flower) most of your herbicide options stop.
From my understanding on glyphosate being used as a desiccant in wheat is that was a mainly a deal in the dakotas where wheat would mature unevenly across the field making harvest very difficult so they would spray to make the whole field ready at once. Wheat is very susceptible to rain and moisture during harvest time causing quality issues and needs harvested as soon as possible to maintain quality. I'm not justifying the practice, just stating why they do it.

Iowafarmkid said:

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Less than 3% of wheat in the U.S. is sprayed with glyphosate as a desiccant and other herbicides used in wheat are used before you get into the reproductive stages so they never come in contact with the seed head. I don't raise wheat so I can't tell you everything about it. On corn, I have to have my herbicides on or before the v8 growth stage (roughly knee to thigh high) otherwise you can actually hurt the yield of the corn by applying to late. Soybeans are the same way and once you get to the r1 growth stage (beginning flower) most of your herbicide options stop.
From my understanding on glyphosate being used as a desiccant in wheat is that was a mainly a deal in the dakotas where wheat would mature unevenly across the field making harvest very difficult so they would spray to make the whole field ready at once. Wheat is very susceptible to rain and moisture during harvest time causing quality issues and needs harvested as soon as possible to maintain quality. I'm not justifying the practice, just stating why they do it.

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Thank you for the info! I don't know what they do either and this has recently been on my radar. I actually have no issues with corn or soy products. It's just wheat.

The alternatives to Roundup are 10 times worse. The lawsuit comes from a guy who "fell" into a tank of Roundup. Sorry but don't think swimming in roundup is good for you but it is also not Roundups fault.

CanyonAg77 said:

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Roundup does not cause cancer.

It is absolutely necessary to US Agriculture.

I don't really give a crap what RFK "ran on"

The lawsuits against Monsanto are not scientifically based

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This exactly. Modern farming extends lifespans and increases populations, yet people want to pretend that everybody dies because of it.

My dad didn't like to use the weedeater. When it broke, he "edged' around the trees, house, driveway, etc with oil drained from the cars. If he was low on that, he brought home whatever drum was convenient and light enough to bring home from the Monsanto plant. In my 23 years of watching him do this on our 1.5 acres, it was effective.

Even though they probably made the chemicals for roundup where he worked, we used discarded 10W-30 to control weeds. I never knew what roundup was until I bought my own house years later.

So. Texas Tea Tree oil is the alternative. Organic (came from dead dinosaurs and seaweed) and also is in the recycling chain.

Follow-me for cancer-free, climate-friendly weed control tips.

Had a brief argument over roundup with a Lib with blue hair. Her argument was that her blue hair dye was topical and roundup is ingested

FIDO*98* said:

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Had a brief argument over roundup with a Lib with blue hair. Her argument was that her blue hair dye was topical and roundup is ingested

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She was just splitting hairs.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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I think we do need it.

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Shocking.

AggieVictor10 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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I think we do need it.

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Shocking.

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Resistance is futile.

After an overwhelming YES vote on the removal of pesticide immunity, the chair said it FAILED.

Listen closely…

These people don’t even try to hide who they are. pic.twitter.com/TLa8zi3ZAd

— Anna Matson (@AnnaRMatson) April 30, 2026

The yays were very clearly more than the nays but the chair called it as a no vote. I didn't even hear a single no.

A count was requested.

— Nicole Loves Jesus ❤️ (@IHJWAMH) April 30, 2026

How often does this happen?

Madagascar said:

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For those dead set on insisting Glyphosate is safe, you may want to rethink your position. The article establishing it's safety was recently retracted.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230099913715?via%3Dihub

Bad move by RFK. Assuming he's trying not to make waves amongst farmers.

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I wouldn't put much credence in that retraction.

Huge win for states rights and MAHA!

The special provisions for pesticides (and herbicides like glyphosate) was just stripped from the farm bill by an overwhelming majority! https://t.co/aLLqvO6FZ8

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) April 30, 2026

Rex Racer said:

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I remember my dad digging a trench around the house, spraying Chlordane in it, and covering it back up. We didn't see a bug in the house for the next 5 years! Awesome stuff, but illegal now.

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We had an entire 2'x4' plywood shelf in our outdoor gardening/yard tool closet at the house I grew up in that was stocked with Dursban. Dow made it, so dad got it in industrial strength for free. It's outlawed now.

The mosquito trucks used to spray DDT and we'd go out and play in the yard right after it came through. Clouds of that stuff everywhere. It's outlawed now.

Benzene used to be used regularly to clean tools, etc. It's banned now too.

All of them were pretty much commonplace growing up. Still here and kicking.

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lb3 said:

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We have a big network here: Maybe someone got sick or personally knows someone who got sick from Roundup weed killer. No bot stories, just regular 10 finger and toes, former students from Texas A&M with a story.

The townspeople are getting fed up with the boy who cried wolf.

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One of my aerospace classmates' father died of cancer caused by Roundup while I was in school. I don't think he was following manufacturer instructions when he routinely reached into the sprayer tanks bare handed to clear screens.

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Well if that's the case it was nice knowing yall. 48 years old, started running a sprayer at 17 just as RR crops became popular. I've spilled on my clothes and splashed on my skin more glyphosate than most people will ever see in a lifetime.

By label, required PPE for glyphosate usage is long sleeved shirt, pants, shoes, and socks. Chemical resistant gloves are not required.

On another note, when did everyone become so scared of everything? PFAS, Glyphosate, Seed oils…. My grandfather ate "clean" homecooked, local, fresh food his entire life. Fresh milk and butter from his own cows and food from my grandmothers garden, beef and pork from animals he raised. He died of a heart attack at 53 years old in 1978……We are living longer than humans at any previous point in time. From a pure mathematical estimate, complications from obesity will probably kill most of us before chemicals ever get a chance. Relax, eat what you want in moderation, get an annual physical, exercise and enjoy your family.

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Modern use of seed oils actually contributes to the obesity part fairly heavily though.