Trust in Jesus and stop giving them money. We are called to be obedient. But not called to be stupid. Most of these bishops were chosen by a marxist pope pushing an agenda. We know that. Local parishes around here are mostly ok.

Good works don't save you. Also:helping people violate the law is not good works.

HTH

The UMC as a denomination is no longer Christian.

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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The United States of America is trillions of dollars in debt yet holds untold wealth in art, antiquities, gold, ……. No, art and antiquities are not for sale by The Church or our government. To top it off, the Holy Roman Catholic Church remains by far one of the largest charity organizations on the planet. For all The Church's faults, the BS you pointed out is not among them.

James 2:14-17

Citizenship in none of the Churches business. Are U.S. Citizens more likely to go the heaven?

Works are a sign of salvation. They are not the cause of it.

Helping violate the law is not a good work.

HTH

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Good works don't save you. Also:helping people violate the law is not good works.

HTH

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Don't care. HTH

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Religion shouldn't play a role in politics so I don't care what these losers think

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You can disagree and I do as well. But calling Catholic Bishops "losers" is not appropriate.

21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, and do many miracles in your name?' 23 Then I will announce to them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you lawbreakers!" Matthew 7:21-23

You should care.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, and do many miracles in your name?' 23 Then I will announce to them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you lawbreakers!" Matthew 7:21-23

You should care.

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Nope. Still don't care.

I know that , but if you ain't doing them you're dead.

If they're distorting the Bible and using it to get people killed (which illegal immigration does), they're worse than losers.

Illegal immigrstion is not a good work.

While being 100% against the bishops here, my family are members of one of the biggest Catholic Churches in the Galveston-Houston Archdiocese and we have never heard anything of this topic or any woke teachings since we've been here. In fact our children go to the Catholic school at the church and have never been taught any of this either. I have no problem being a devout Catholic and disagreeing with the pope and bishops on topics at the same time without renouncing my faith in the church.

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DonHenley said:

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Religion shouldn't play a role in politics so I don't care what these losers think

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You can disagree and I do as well. But calling Catholic Bishops "losers" is not appropriate.

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They're just men. Like you and me.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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If they're distorting the Bible and using it to get people killed (which illegal immigration does), they're worse than losers.

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Closer to the money changers at this point, but I don't want to get into an 'R/P' discussion here.
The tax money/politics cutting it off are the issue driving this as I posted up above.

I've ignored the FW diocese pleas for money over the last 5 years. I give freely to my church but I'm not sending our bishop a dime.

As superaggie73 mentions, those of us who are Catholic and also have a brain, can indeed be fervent and faithful members of the Church AND disagree with the human leaders of it. Shocker I know, but it is possible. There is a very big and important difference between Catholic doctrine, and the opinions on modern day events/politics/etc by certain clergy/leaders within the Church. I could go on for awhile on the actual substance of why that stance from the conference of bishops is ridiculous, but I just wanted to point out that there are millions upon millions of Catholics that very often differ in opinion from some of the leadership when it comes to political matters.

Quote:

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"Ahhh, Bishop Nelson. Nice to see ya.
That was quite a sermon you had the other day."

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Most of us understand this.

Is the Catholic church like democrats who see immigrants as voters , because they see a largely Hispanic immigrant population as donors?

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Birthright citizenship for a baby born to even one parent here legally is a no-brainer.

Rejecting birthright citizenship to the offspring of parents who both came in illegally is also a no-brainer. It doesn't mean they're not human. It just means they're not an American citizen.

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Nah.

At least one parent that is a legal US Citizen.

At some point we need to make citizenship valuable again.

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That's what I said.

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That's not what you said. There's a difference between being here legally and being a citizen.

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If you're here legally and drop a child, they're a US citizen. The argument has been that people here illegally shouldn't get birthright privileges for their offspring, which I agree with. But I don't agree with moving the goalposts to require one of the legal parents to also be a citizen. That has not been the conversation.

Edit to add that Trump's EO is in between those two positions. He would require the parents to be a US citizen or a legal permanent resident, but he excludes those here legally on a visa.

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So, some criminal lies about coming here on "asylum". Here legally, until her court date.

When hjis court date comes and he can't stay, do all the kids she dropped here still get to keep their citizenship, or do they lose it because his legal status was based on false pretenses?

Or, how about if she never shows up for her court date? Are here kids legal, or do they lose it when she doesn't come for her date?

I would agree with your assumption. Catholicism and church attendance in the United States is declining. This is the way that for them to bolster their ranks.

The gay synod of US bishops, who are notorious pedo protectors, should screw themselves.

I understand what you are saying and agree to a point. However, for the longest time I had issues with the UMC because the Methodist Church was one of, and I believe at one point, the largest financial supporter of the ACLU. And this was after the ACLU really went rogue. I told our pastor I'll give to our local church but did not want my money going to the Methodist bureaucracy. Of course, he said he couldn't control that. Had the same issue with United Way. If liberals are controlling it, I really don't want to contribute when they are controlling the distribution of funds.

What do the mostly-peaceful Imams think? Seems like they are the only important ones now

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Sounds like the Catholics are going bsc like the Episcopalians.

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Second Vatican Council is when the CC went bsc. Church was gutted of clergy by turning a blind eye to sodomites.

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It will probably cost me some days in purgatory, but I really dislike our Catholic bishops (as a group) in this country (assuming this story is true). If ever a group should learn to stay in their lane, this is one of them. I'll never leave the church due to their political failings, but I can see where some people would struggle with this type of behavior.

Has the Catholic Church pushed for birthright citizenship anywhere else? https://t.co/GeaikgWllw

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) February 27, 2026

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until Vatican City opens its gates wide open , they need to just sthu

DonHenley said:

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Religion shouldn't play a role in politics so I don't care what these losers think

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Then get politics out of religion.

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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All of them were wrong. And none of them should've gotten any money.

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While being 100% against the bishops here, my family are members of one of the biggest Catholic Churches in the Galveston-Houston Archdiocese and we have never heard anything of this topic or any woke teachings since we've been here. In fact our children go to the Catholic school at the church and have never been taught any of this either. I have no problem being a devout Catholic and disagreeing with the pope and bishops on topics at the same time without renouncing my faith in the church.

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We're in the same diocese, but in a much smaller parish. I agree with all you said, but my struggle is with the DSF portion of my donations. We have almost no control over where that money goes.