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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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No more stupid than the other times this has been posted on F16….

The Vatican was walled off over 1000 years ago to protect against ARMIES whose aim was to murder, rape, and enslave those inside. It is not even entirely walled off.
https://www.history.com/articles/vatican-city

The Holy Roman Catholic Church remains the largest charitable group IN THE WORLD. Easy to look up. Those "treasures" are priceless artifacts and art works preserved for all time. Now, why don't you advocate to the US government to sell everything in the Smithsonian, National Gallery, National Archives, etc……..when we are trillions of dollars in debt?

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The Catholic Church is widely considered the largest charitable organization in the world, operating an unmatched global network of schools, hospitals, orphanages, and social services.

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It's still walled off, and they don't give citizenship to poor Libyan/Nigerian migrants, nor provide universal healthcare for the swiss guard families. And the $82 million/80 percent of their revenue in 2024 is still true, despite it revealing how stupid the leadership of Catholic Charities Houston-Galveston diocese is, and it's not a charitable organization, it is working (with it's islamic leadership) to import moslems who want to kill and rape Americans.

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just spreading the word.

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B-1 83 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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No more stupid than the other times this has been posted on F16….

The Vatican was walled off over 1000 years ago to protect against ARMIES whose aim was to murder, rape, and enslave those inside. It is not even entirely walled off.
https://www.history.com/articles/vatican-city

The Holy Roman Catholic Church remains the largest charitable group IN THE WORLD. Easy to look up. Those "treasures" are priceless artifacts and art works preserved for all time. Now, why don't you advocate to the US government to sell everything in the Smithsonian, National Gallery, National Archives, etc……..when we are trillions of dollars in debt?

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The Catholic Church is widely considered the largest charitable organization in the world, operating an unmatched global network of schools, hospitals, orphanages, and social services.

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It's still walled off, and they don't give citizenship to poor Libyan/Nigerian migrants, nor provide universal healthcare for the swiss guard families. And the $82 million/80 percent of their revenue in 2024 is still true, despite it revealing how stupid the leadership of Catholic Charities Houston-Galveston diocese is, and it's not a charitable organization, it is working (with it's islamic leadership) to import moslems who want to kill and rape Americans.

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just spreading the word.

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Move those goal posts……..

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Religion shouldn't play a role in politics so I don't care what these losers think

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You can disagree and I do as well. But calling Catholic Bishops "losers" is not appropriate.

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They're just men. Like you and me.

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I am assuming you are not Catholic or well informed. I know they are men but don't compare yourself to someone who dedicates their entire lift to following God. That is insulting.

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It's sad when people place other men on pedestals instead of looking directly at Christ. Enjoy your hierarchy I guess

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Who did Christ leave charge for His church with? I recommend you go further than just "read the black, do the red" and maybe apply some critical thinking.

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Critical thinking comment from someone that has to follow their hierarchy's rules despite whether they agree with them or not. Hah!

No idea what you're referencing. The Islamization of Catholic Charities I think I used the wrong link for though, apologies.

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And dual roles at a Catholic refugee group and an Islamic mosque are not even unusual.

The Catholic Archdiocese of Galveston Houston employs Samira, a Muslim 'refugee' from Afghanistan, as a case manager. This information was put out as a press release as the Archdiocese declared that it was expecting to import hundreds of Afghan families to Houston.

Also working as a case manager at the Archdiocese was Umarfarouk Omaru Lolleh who also appears to be the chairman of the board at the United Muslim Association of Houston (UMAH).

Catholic refugee groups aren't just bringing Muslims to America, they're also transporting them to local mosques and even providing leaders for those mosques being set up in America.

Muslims have become so ubiquitous at Catholic Charities that you can count multiple Mohammeds in a single local operation. And that represents only a percentage of the total Muslim employees.

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Not a dime, ever, should flow from the US Taxpayer to such a 'charity' (I wouldn't classify it as such but that's the name they masquerade as/with.) My two cents. Comically, since funding from the tax payer is now cut off, they appear to have taken down their 'Afghan refugees' donation site.

Disgusting organization/people.

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No idea what you're referencing. The Islamization of Catholic Charities I think I used the wrong link for though, apologies.

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And dual roles at a Catholic refugee group and an Islamic mosque are not even unusual.

The Catholic Archdiocese of Galveston Houston employs Samira, a Muslim 'refugee' from Afghanistan, as a case manager. This information was put out as a press release as the Archdiocese declared that it was expecting to import hundreds of Afghan families to Houston.

Also working as a case manager at the Archdiocese was Umarfarouk Omaru Lolleh who also appears to be the chairman of the board at the United Muslim Association of Houston (UMAH).

Catholic refugee groups aren't just bringing Muslims to America, they're also transporting them to local mosques and even providing leaders for those mosques being set up in America.

Muslims have become so ubiquitous at Catholic Charities that you can count multiple Mohammeds in a single local operation. And that represents only a percentage of the total Muslim employees.

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Not a dime, ever, should flow from the US Taxpayer to such a 'charity' (I wouldn't classify it as such but that's the name they masquerade as/with.) My two cents. Comically, since funding from the tax payer is now cut off, they appear to have taken down their 'Afghan refugees' donation site.

Disgusting organization/people.

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you must be getting tired moving those goal posts……

First you reference the Vatican wall and have that nonsense and it's comparison to US wallS shot down, then it's the "Vatican treasures should be sold" - exposed for the nonsense it is, now it's how charities showed no bias in helping those in need. Before you strain yourself further, you might want to look up other church charities that have helped "migrants" in such a manner. I'll help you get started…….

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Send Relief and local Texas Baptist groups, actively help Muslim refugees through resettlement, food distribution, medical care, and English classes. These organizations, along with partners like ABHMS, offer humanitarian aid to displaced families from Syria, Afghanistan, and other nations regardless of their faith.

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https://www.texasbaptists.org/ministries/intercultural-ministries/refugee-information

I think the Catholic church is looking for followers. How better to get new followers than by importing unwashed heathens from the 3rd world and converting them.

The entire thing is a business. A racket. Money making scheme.

These organizations don't care about America or keeping it safe. All they want is their new converts so they can claim they converted 10000000000 people in their annual performance evaluations.

That is why I abhor organized religion. I find it all to be cultish and power and money centered. There is no Godliness or divinity involved.

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First you reference the Vatican wall and have that nonsense and it's comparison to US wallS shot down, then it's the "Vatican treasures should be sold" - exposed for the nonsense it is, now it's how charities showed no bias in helping those in need. Before you strain yourself further, you might want to look up other church charities that have helped "migrants" in such a manner.

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You've provided precisely zero 'corrections' and have now become unintelligible as I have no idea what your point is, other than your conclusory 'what aboutism' which is a frequent default position it seems (I've noted the other leftist American denominations many times following a similar but smaller revenue stream).

Catholic Charities is a largely evil organization willingly used by muslims/other leftists to infiltrate the US. The Roman Catholic Church itself is absolutely hypocritical in their executive calling for the US to implement 'universal healthcare' at the federal level, and opposition to securing our borders/deporting those here illegally. When the RCC steps into our politics as such, whether the papacy is held by a South American or a Chicagoan, all thinking Americans should call it out as such.

But otherwise, happy Easter!

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First you reference the Vatican wall and have that nonsense and it's comparison to US wallS shot down, then it's the "Vatican treasures should be sold" - exposed for the nonsense it is, now it's how charities showed no bias in helping those in need. Before you strain yourself further, you might want to look up other church charities that have helped "migrants" in such a manner.

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You've provided precisely zero 'corrections' and have now become unintelligible as I have no idea what your point is, other than your conclusory 'what aboutism' which is a frequent default position it seems (I've noted the other leftist American denominations many times following a similar but smaller revenue stream).

Catholic Charities is a largely evil organization willingly used by muslims/other leftists to infiltrate the US. The Roman Catholic Church itself is absolutely hypocritical in their executive calling for the US to implement 'universal healthcare' at the federal level, and opposition to securing our borders/deporting those here illegally. When the RCC steps into our politics as such, whether the papacy is held by a South American or a Chicagoan, all thinking Americans should call it out as such.

But otherwise, happy Easter!

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You must be tired from all the mental gymnastics and goalpost moving to even look at what you typed earlier.

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Why does "staying in the church" mean you have to stay with the Catholic brand? I honestly don't see how Catholics deal with a church whose leaders are as political as it gets.

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The Catholic Church remains the Church founded by Jesus. Look around at the straight up evil that has become acceptable in other denomination such as Episcopal., half the Methodist Church, Bible churches, etc. i'd rather some bishops be wrong about politics than follow somebody like James Talerico and somehow try to convince myself that I am actually a Christian

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Why does "staying in the church" mean you have to stay with the Catholic brand? I honestly don't see how Catholics deal with a church whose leaders are as political as it gets.

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The Catholic Church remains the Church founded by Jesus. Look around at the straight up evil that has become acceptable in other denomination such as Episcopal., half the Methodist Church, Bible churches, etc. i'd rather some bishops be wrong about politics than follow somebody like James Talerico and somehow try to convince myself that I am actually a Christian

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Are you new here? This is F16, and when the Pope or a group of Bishops say something not in line with the popular thinking here, it's time to call them all "leftists", "Marxists", and "losers", then jump to the Vatican wall/Border wall comparison, followed by the tried and true "sell all the artwork" line. Predictable as the morning sun on here.

The Pope and Bishops need to stick to talking about religion and their Catholic faith, not commenting on US immigration policy, registering an opinion on birthright citizenship, how we enforce our laws, etc.

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The Pope and Bishops need to stick to talking about religion and their Catholic faith, not commenting on US immigration policy, registering an opinion on birthright citizenship, how we enforce our laws, etc.

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Why? I'm Catholic, don't agree with what they say at times, but to say they can't have an opinion on this is ridiculous. What other religious leaders get political? Hmmmm……. When a church doesn't try to lookout for the destitute and downtrodden, it isn't much of a church, politics be damned.

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Like you go to mass.....

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I don't. I'm not Catholic. My in-laws have supported a parish for over 100 years, though. They're in their fourth or fifth generation.

I have a personal relationship with Christ. Thankfully, He died for me. I don't need a Pope to interpret what the Holy Spirit says to me.

Christ. The church is His bride.

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Why does "staying in the church" mean you have to stay with the Catholic brand? I honestly don't see how Catholics deal with a church whose leaders are as political as it gets.

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The Catholic Church remains the Church founded by Jesus. Look around at the straight up evil that has become acceptable in other denomination such as Episcopal., half the Methodist Church, Bible churches, etc. i'd rather some bishops be wrong about politics than follow somebody like James Talerico and somehow try to convince myself that I am actually a Christian

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I don't know who James Talerico is but man this is sad, and on Easter no less. To place more importance on some guy in Rome than on Jesus himself who died for all of us.

If the Catholic Church were gone tomorrow Christianity would still be alive and well. I'm sorry you'd have to convince yourself you'd still be a Christian.

"For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them."

Inserting themselves in USA politics or taking political position is NOT looking out for the destitute and downtrodden……..

They can have an opinion, and they need to keep it to themselves. The USA is the most charitable country on the planet, in the history of humanity, both privately and publicly. How we choose to enforce our immigration laws is none of their business.

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Like you go to mass.....

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I don't. I'm not Catholic. My in-laws have supported a parish for over 100 years, though. They're in their fourth or fifth generation.

I have a personal relationship with Christ. Thankfully, He died for me. I don't need a Pope to interpret what the Holy Spirit says to me.

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Average Prot response that entirely refuses to acknowledge what the scripture says.

Great chapter, the same one that says "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven", but Prots conveniently forget that part where Jesus is leaving His church with a certain apostle. Shame we have no idea what happens to that apostle after being given charge of His flock.