B-1 83 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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B-1 83 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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StandUpforAmerica said:

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It will probably cost me some days in purgatory, but I really dislike our Catholic bishops (as a group) in this country (assuming this story is true). If ever a group should learn to stay in their lane, this is one of them. I'll never leave the church due to their political failings, but I can see where some people would struggle with this type of behavior.

Has the Catholic Church pushed for birthright citizenship anywhere else? https://t.co/GeaikgWllw

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) February 27, 2026

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until Vatican City opens its gates wide open , they need to just sthu

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers and cultural marxists and primarily funded as NGOs.

Collection basket money does not fund Catholic Charities.

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🚨 #BREAKING: DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has announced she and Trump have stopped ALL GRANT FUNDING for the NGOs who are assisting in the invasion of the United States

Organizations like Catholic Charities and Red Cross received over $340 MILLION in 2024 from DHS assist illegals… pic.twitter.com/knaitqoeG7

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 29, 2025

But all of the above, combined, amounts to a drop in the bucket when compared to how much money is going to pro-migration stuff.

Example: Over $278 MILLION to Catholic Charities of Fort Worth for "refugee cash and medical assistance."

Absolutely infuriating! pic.twitter.com/eDzYaMxMWk

— Patrick Casey (@restoreorderusa) January 28, 2025

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TxLawDawg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Birthright citizenship for a baby born to even one parent here legally is a no-brainer.

Rejecting birthright citizenship to the offspring of parents who both came in illegally is also a no-brainer. It doesn't mean they're not human. It just means they're not an American citizen.

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Nah.

At least one parent that is a legal US Citizen.

At some point we need to make citizenship valuable again.

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That's what I said.

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That's not what you said. There's a difference between being here legally and being a citizen.

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If you're here legally and drop a child, they're a US citizen. The argument has been that people here illegally shouldn't get birthright privileges for their offspring, which I agree with. But I don't agree with moving the goalposts to require one of the legal parents to also be a citizen. That has not been the conversation.

Edit to add that Trump's EO is in between those two positions. He would require the parents to be a US citizen or a legal permanent resident, but he excludes those here legally on a visa.

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So, some criminal lies about coming here on "asylum". Here legally, until her court date.

When hjis court date comes and he can't stay, do all the kids she dropped here still get to keep their citizenship, or do they lose it because his legal status was based on false pretenses?

Or, how about if she never shows up for her court date? Are here kids legal, or do they lose it when she doesn't come for her date?

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Science Denier said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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TxLawDawg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Birthright citizenship for a baby born to even one parent here legally is a no-brainer.

Rejecting birthright citizenship to the offspring of parents who both came in illegally is also a no-brainer. It doesn't mean they're not human. It just means they're not an American citizen.

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Nah.

At least one parent that is a legal US Citizen.

At some point we need to make citizenship valuable again.

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That's what I said.

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That's not what you said. There's a difference between being here legally and being a citizen.

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If you're here legally and drop a child, they're a US citizen. The argument has been that people here illegally shouldn't get birthright privileges for their offspring, which I agree with. But I don't agree with moving the goalposts to require one of the legal parents to also be a citizen. That has not been the conversation.

Edit to add that Trump's EO is in between those two positions. He would require the parents to be a US citizen or a legal permanent resident, but he excludes those here legally on a visa.

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So, some criminal lies about coming here on "asylum". Here legally, until her court date.

When hjis court date comes and he can't stay, do all the kids she dropped here still get to keep their citizenship, or do they lose it because his legal status was based on false pretenses?

Or, how about if she never shows up for her court date? Are here kids legal, or do they lose it when she doesn't come for her date?

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Not sure I understand your questions. I think Trump's EO is the right balance and I'm aligned with him on it. Have to be a US citizen or legal permanent resident for kids to get birthright citizenship. Short term visitors on legal visas don't count, and of course, all illegals don't either.

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Science Denier said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Science Denier said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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TxLawDawg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Birthright citizenship for a baby born to even one parent here legally is a no-brainer.

Rejecting birthright citizenship to the offspring of parents who both came in illegally is also a no-brainer. It doesn't mean they're not human. It just means they're not an American citizen.

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Nah.

At least one parent that is a legal US Citizen.

At some point we need to make citizenship valuable again.

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That's what I said.

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That's not what you said. There's a difference between being here legally and being a citizen.

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If you're here legally and drop a child, they're a US citizen. The argument has been that people here illegally shouldn't get birthright privileges for their offspring, which I agree with. But I don't agree with moving the goalposts to require one of the legal parents to also be a citizen. That has not been the conversation.

Edit to add that Trump's EO is in between those two positions. He would require the parents to be a US citizen or a legal permanent resident, but he excludes those here legally on a visa.

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So, some criminal lies about coming here on "asylum". Here legally, until her court date.

When hjis court date comes and he can't stay, do all the kids she dropped here still get to keep their citizenship, or do they lose it because his legal status was based on false pretenses?

Or, how about if she never shows up for her court date? Are here kids legal, or do they lose it when she doesn't come for her date?

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Not sure I understand your questions. I think Trump's EO is the right balance and I'm aligned with him on it. Have to be a US citizen or legal permanent resident for kids to get birthright citizenship. Short term visitors on legal visas don't count, and of course, all illegals don't either.

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Biden encouraged folks to come here and claim asylum. Despite them skipping over Mexico to get here, he didn't care. These are not on short term visas.

The vast majority of these were turned down by the courts, and a lot more didn't even show up for their court date.

Libs considered these being here legally.

This is why if a child is born here to a family where neither parent is a citizen, they should not be granted citizenship automatically. The millions of "legal" residents that are here because they lied should not have anchor babies here.

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Owlagdad said:

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Is the Catholic church like democrats who see immigrants as voters , because they see a largely Hispanic immigrant population as donors?

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Sid Farkas said:

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Sounds like the Catholics are going bsc like the Episcopalians.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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The UMC as a denomination is no longer Christian.

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So the US Catholic Bishops position is that it is an indignity to be a legal citizen of the country your parents are legal citizens of?

Isn't the Catholic Church present in these other countries?

This is an insane position. This has always been an insane position. There is nothing indignant or inhumane about being a citizen of the country your parents are a citizen of no matter where you are born.

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B-1 83 said:

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers and cultural marxists and primarily funded as NGOs.

Collection basket money does not fund Catholic Charities.

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Horse#&@# with the child trafficker nonsense. The Catholic bashing on F16 knows no bounds amd the "Oh yeah? Well……………..we do it less!" defense is tiresome. Yes, there are extra collections for CFC.

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers and cultural marxists and primarily funded as NGOs.

Collection basket money does not fund Catholic Charities.

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Horse#&@# with the child trafficker nonsense. The Catholic bashing on F16 knows no bounds amd the "Oh yeah? Well……………..we do it less!" defense is tiresome. Yes, there are extra collections for CFC.

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Catholic Church (CC) deserves some bashing. The Catholic bashing can be unfair on F16 but this is an area the CC should be criticized to no end.

There is nothing wrong with the faithful questioning the CC and asking for honesty. Especially when Catholic Charities is not forthcoming with the children they controlled and trafficked.

https://catholiconline.news/u-s-news/the-catholic-church-and-the-crisis-of-missing-migrant-children/

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B-1 83 said:

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers and cultural marxists and primarily funded as NGOs.

Collection basket money does not fund Catholic Charities.

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Horse#&@# with the child trafficker nonsense. The Catholic bashing on F16 knows no bounds amd the "Oh yeah? Well……………..we do it less!" defense is tiresome. Yes, there are extra collections for CFC.

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Catholic Church (CC) deserves some bashing. The Catholic bashing can be unfair on F16 but this is an area the CC should be criticized to no end.

There is nothing wrong with the faithful questioning the CC and asking for honesty. Especially when Catholic Charities is not forthcoming with the children they controlled and trafficked.

https://catholiconline.news/u-s-news/the-catholic-church-and-the-crisis-of-missing-migrant-children/

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Nowhere in your article does it say specifically that children placed by The Church were trafficked. Apparently some of the hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied children were not accounted for in ALL locations and by ALL those in charge of the placements. Saying that Catholic Charities trafficked them is disingenuous, at best.

"Some unaccompanied minor children were not accounted for. Some unaccounted fro children were trafficked. The Catholic Charities has unaccounted for children. Catholic Charities trafficked children." No…..

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Got a link?

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bobbranco said:

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers

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They traffic illegals. Includes children and adults.

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bobbranco said:

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers

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They traffic illegals. Includes children and adults.

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Owlagdad said:

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Is the Catholic church like democrats who see immigrants as voters , because they see a largely Hispanic immigrant population as donors?

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B-1 83 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Owlagdad said:

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Is the Catholic church like democrats who see immigrants as voters , because they see a largely Hispanic immigrant population as donors?

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My in-laws are Catholic. In the midwest, traditional Catholics are largely German descendants. The Church is pushing them aside for Hispanics. People aren't thrilled about it.

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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It is directly facilitating their replacement by third worlders.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Whatever "American Baptists…" is, it doesn't represent any large denomination of baptists. The Southern Baptist Convention is far and away the largest Baptist denomination in the country, and has no affiliation whatsoever with American Baptist whatever. I've never even heard of that organization. So, it's nothing like Catholic bishops making a statement. Just for the record.

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The lawyer who wrote this brief isn’t even Catholic. He’s a left-wing Baptist.

The U.S. Conference of Democrat Bishops couldn’t even get a Catholic to explain Catholic teaching. https://t.co/uzkFyNd29t pic.twitter.com/F7J7haPwd0

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) February 27, 2026