DeschutesAg said:

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Ignore ftc's complaints and do continue posting important links and sources.

That is a very interesting oped. Interesting because of the author's position and the truths he states and the numerous blatant bald-faced lies his propaganda piece contains. Unlike Israeli governments of 30 years ago, the Netanyahu factional government is not and never has been America's friend. Benji's coalition sees us as gullible dupes to be used. Netanyahu literally tells us that every day.

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Question, did you know it was an op-ed propaganda piece from Israel's head of propaganda?

Cause my whole point was it was lazy obfuscation of the source. And ignore that ftcs complaints was the disingenuous opaqueness as to the source and purpose of the articles.

You guys never change. Same ol anti… I mean "Israel gubmit" haters are all the same. Old, boomin, listening to too much Tucker and Candace.

If you are going to invoke my name at least get your story straight.

If it's such great links and sources, why not make it known within the post.

More at this link: Fox News Exclusive

DeschutesAg said:

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Ignore ftc's complaints and do continue posting important links and sources.

That is a very interesting oped. Interesting because of the author's position and the truths he states and the numerous blatant bald-faced lies his propaganda piece contains. Unlike Israeli governments of 30 years ago, the Netanyahu factional government is not and never has been America's friend. Benji's coalition sees us as gullible dupes to be used. Netanyahu literally tells us that every day.

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I'm surprised people are actually noticing this. Or maybe they just are finally saying what they thought out loud because the "anti-semitism" claim has been so overused it holds little meaning anymore.

some people believe they are content police, and I guess now post formatting police

Let me share my personal experience from encounters with certain members of Vance’s team:

I met them at restaurants multiple times. From the very beginning, I was shocked by how deeply they misunderstood Iranian society. Literally every position they expressed aligned with the… https://t.co/749ou2U7jp

— Navid Mohebbi نوید محبی (@navidmohebbi) June 25, 2026

It’s Pahlavi complex. He is Qajari descendant. They hate Pahlavi more than the murderous regime, losers

— Ida Turan 🇮🇷 ایده توران (@iranidaturan) June 25, 2026

This is a red flag.

Vance is way out of his league here.

I have no words. The IRGC is a designated terror group because they plan dozens of terror attacks each year in other countries.

Celebrating the fact that our military is now coordinating with them is insane. https://t.co/cgerNNT9Bn

— AG (@AGHamilton29) June 25, 2026

looks like the terrorists are saying this is not true. Hope this isn't another one of their lies.

Iran’s IRGC spox Brig. Gen. Hossein Mohebbi calls US Vice President JD Vance’s claim of plans to set up a US military—IRGC deconfliction cell in Qatar “an outright lie.”

“[S]uch a thing has neither happened nor will it happen,” Iran’s Fars News quotes Mohebbi as saying.

— Jared Szuba (@JM_Szuba) June 26, 2026

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DeschutesAg said:

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Ignore ftc's complaints and do continue posting important links and sources.

That is a very interesting oped. Interesting because of the author's position and the truths he states and the numerous blatant bald-faced lies his propaganda piece contains. Unlike Israeli governments of 30 years ago, the Netanyahu factional government is not and never has been America's friend. Benji's coalition sees us as gullible dupes to be used. Netanyahu literally tells us that every day.

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I'm surprised people are actually noticing this. Or maybe they just are finally saying what they thought out loud because the "anti-semitism" claim has been so overused it holds little meaning anymore.

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Can you lay out how the positions of BiBi and company have resulted in them not being Americas friend? Particular how those positions have nothing to do with Israel being the Jewish State of Israel?

Interested to see what positions you specifically object to. Thanks!

So is the suggestion that the IRGC should be excluded from the discussion?

So stick with the ayatollah?

Seems like Weiss was not happy with Vance's semantics which frankly I see no issue with.

Is there something else?

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DeschutesAg said:

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Ignore ftc's complaints and do continue posting important links and sources.

That is a very interesting oped. Interesting because of the author's position and the truths he states and the numerous blatant bald-faced lies his propaganda piece contains. Unlike Israeli governments of 30 years ago, the Netanyahu factional government is not and never has been America's friend. Benji's coalition sees us as gullible dupes to be used. Netanyahu literally tells us that every day.

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I'm surprised people are actually noticing this. Or maybe they just are finally saying what they thought out loud because the "anti-semitism" claim has been so overused it holds little meaning anymore.

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You are surprised that the same people parroting the same propaganda they have been all along even louder are continuing to say the same things? This is nothing new, it's just more of the same tired garbage.

Very much a red flag. Anyone choosing to associate with that code pink ghoul is suspect.

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Seems like Weiss was not happy with Vance's semantics which frankly I see no issue with.

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Weird take considering just a few posts up you are complaining that the format of a link was misleading. Do semantics matter or do they not? Or were you just arguing that to try and deflect form the substance of the post?

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Formatting of the POST was the issue, avoiding a paywall another, and finally not proper context in the post.

But yea, that's "semantics"?

What was the "substance of the post"? That Israel's director of propaganda is issuing propaganda?

And you and others including the poster ignore that I had ZERO issue with the diaspora guy writing an opinion piece. Sort of his job.

I also understand and have no issue with Israel being mad about where things are with Iran. I am a bit frustrated myself.

When a poster labels something as "FURY" to a blind link and includes a quote with no attribution?

That's lazy and misleading and I will both call it out and flag it as such. Deal with it bro

We are getting tired of your anti-semantic rants

Phatbob said:

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We are getting tired of your anti-semantic rants

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Edit: Thanks for Ags with kids for getting me straight here. I'll make note that Phatbob is clever with his words much like a BigRobSA, who usually has be proofreading my posts for pour spellings and improffer engrish.

What in the ever-living hell are you talking about?

Where have I been antisemitic?

Unless this is sarcasm.

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We are getting tired of your anti-semantic rants

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What in the ever-living hell are you talking about?

Where have I been antisemitic?

Unless this is sarcasm.

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Read his comment again...

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flown-the-coop said:

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Phatbob said:

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We are getting tired of your anti-semantic rants

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What in the ever-living hell are you talking about?

Where have I been antisemitic?

Unless this is sarcasm.

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Read his comment again...

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**** me. Time for the pool I guess. Watching Harry Potter at COSM has left me tired and in a witching mood.

Sorry Phatbob, I misread.

Been getting so tired of premium drive-bys I am not accounting for good posters actually being funny. Thanks for the assist.

I have not seen this sort of idea floated yet by anyone. It seems to me that it is a slam dunk.

How can Iran declare that they have any authority over the SOH, when there is a channel outside of the territorial waters? They can't just decide to start lobbing rockets and drones at other countries ships or charge tolls for passage in waters that are not under their jurisdiction.

Not to mention lobbying rockets into countries unprovoked that are not part of the conflict. So I created this and I have sought to get it in front of those who can do something with it.

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A Legal Path to Address Iranian Interference in the Strait of Hormuz - (financial compensation)

1. The Strait of Hormuz is a vital international waterway, and actions that unlawfully impede transit passage, restrict commercial shipping, or damage civilian vessels violate established principles of international maritime law. This is especially significant where affected vessels are not parties to the underlying conflict.
2. Vessel owners, operators, insurers, and affected states may pursue claims for damages arising from unlawful interference, after establishing jurisdiction, causation, and a legally recognized basis for relief in the appropriate international court.
3. Regional states whose infrastructure, economies, or shipping interests have been harmed may also have grounds to seek compensation or other remedies as they can demonstrate that Iran's conduct caused specific and measurable losses.
4. If maritime insurers classify the area as a war-risk zone because of unlawful interference, shippers and insurers may seek recovery for additional costs, delays, or losses tied to the increased risk environment.
5. Frozen Iranian assets may serve as a potential enforcement or compensation mechanism when authorized by applicable international or domestic courts of law or sanctions authorities.
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If the regime sees that they are getting hammered financially for what they are doing in the SOH and have to pay compensation, they will be hesitant to attack ships in SOH. The key to this working is that the funds to pay this compensation is already under the control of those who will be seeking it!

Israel and their lackeys really hate Vance for the deal that Trump signed. Sicking the usual mouthpieces on him like Hamilton and Laura Loomer. Makes me like JD even more.

nortex97 said:

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Let me share my personal experience from encounters with certain members of Vance’s team:

I met them at restaurants multiple times. From the very beginning, I was shocked by how deeply they misunderstood Iranian society. Literally every position they expressed aligned with the… https://t.co/749ou2U7jp

— Navid Mohebbi نوید محبی (@navidmohebbi) June 25, 2026

It’s Pahlavi complex. He is Qajari descendant. They hate Pahlavi more than the murderous regime, losers

— Ida Turan 🇮🇷 ایده توران (@iranidaturan) June 25, 2026

This is a red flag.

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Ya think?

Hell has done froze over. First 4 and now nortex97 agree with me on something.

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I have not seen this sort of idea floated yet by anyone. It seems to me that it is a slam dunk.

How can Iran declare that they have any authority over the SOH, when there is a channel outside of the territorial waters? They can't just decide to start lobbing rockets and drones at other countries ships or charge tolls for passage in waters that are not under their jurisdiction.

Not to mention lobbying rockets into countries unprovoked that are not part of the conflict. So I created this and I have sought to get it in front of those who can do something with it.

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A Legal Path to Address Iranian Interference in the Strait of Hormuz - (financial compensation)

1. The Strait of Hormuz is a vital international waterway, and actions that unlawfully impede transit passage, restrict commercial shipping, or damage civilian vessels violate established principles of international maritime law. This is especially significant where affected vessels are not parties to the underlying conflict.
2. Vessel owners, operators, insurers, and affected states may pursue claims for damages arising from unlawful interference, after establishing jurisdiction, causation, and a legally recognized basis for relief in the appropriate international court.
3. Regional states whose infrastructure, economies, or shipping interests have been harmed may also have grounds to seek compensation or other remedies as they can demonstrate that Iran's conduct caused specific and measurable losses.
4. If maritime insurers classify the area as a war-risk zone because of unlawful interference, shippers and insurers may seek recovery for additional costs, delays, or losses tied to the increased risk environment.
5. Frozen Iranian assets may serve as a potential enforcement or compensation mechanism when authorized by applicable international or domestic courts of law or sanctions authorities.
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If the regime sees that they are getting hammered financially for what they are doing in the SOH and have to pay compensation, they will be hesitant to attack ships in SOH. The key to this working is that the funds to pay this compensation is already under the control of those who will be seeking it!

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Is that from the UNCLOS?

But, you're right...just deduct funds from the frozen Iranian assets and start giving it to the shipping companies. Then, Iran can't ever get that money back - that might make them think twice about disturbing the flow of traffic...

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But, you're right...just deduct funds from the frozen Iranian assets and start giving it to the shipping companies. Then, Iran can't ever get that money back - that might make them think twice about disturbing the flow of traffic...

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Some judge will rule he can't take their money and rulings has to pay back what he took.

nortex97 said:

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Let me share my personal experience from encounters with certain members of Vance’s team:

I met them at restaurants multiple times. From the very beginning, I was shocked by how deeply they misunderstood Iranian society. Literally every position they expressed aligned with the… https://t.co/749ou2U7jp

— Navid Mohebbi نوید محبی (@navidmohebbi) June 25, 2026

It’s Pahlavi complex. He is Qajari descendant. They hate Pahlavi more than the murderous regime, losers

— Ida Turan 🇮🇷 ایده توران (@iranidaturan) June 25, 2026

This is a red flag.

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Ahmari is a leading figure in the Post Liberal movement, of which Vance has aligned himself with.

Trying to tie this to some sort of Persian blood feud, is a bit much.

Remember, Sohab converted to Catholicism (same as Vance).

Trump did not sign a "deal", maybe start there and then try moving forward again.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Trump did not sign a "deal", maybe start there and then try moving forward again.

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The "deal" is a general term for the MOU that Trump signed at the G7.

Why don't you spark up another doob and try to come up with another gotcha.

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It's not a deal. It's not binding, it's not specific on terms, contains no repercussions for non compliance.

But if you need to mislabel it as a "deal" then have at it. I will be here to clarify for others.

What is the comment on "spark up another doob" even supposed to insinuate?

That I am dumb, lazy, poor, unsuccessful, undisciplined? Just what point are you trying to convey by adding in that bit which has no relevance to our exchange here, the OP nor to politics.

I hope it was jot an ad hominem attack. But if that is what you meant, then stand up behind you post and admit it.

No, it's from me.

I wrote up the points, just used legal AI to word smith it a bit.


I just don't get why this sort of idea has not been approached.

I don't get how the regime can murder and rape it own people and not a peep about genocide or crimes against humanity

And Israel gets hammered when they do herculean efforts to a void civilian casulties.

The doy le standard is very disturbing.

Furthermore how can the primary object of the Iranian regime , death to Israel, death to us, not even be a point in these negotiations?

Is that not what Rubio said? That Iran has no legitimate claim to the SOH and their attempts to enforce a claim by attacking international ships transiting will not only be met with military consequences but creates a whole host of legal ones.

So in effect, this is our response and approach. Or amni kissing something?

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Is that not what Rubio said? That Iran has no legitimate claim to the SOH and their attempts to enforce a claim by attacking international ships transiting will not only be met with military consequences but creates a whole host of legal ones.

So in effect, this is our response and approach. Or amni kissing something?

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Well yea, a lot of people have said that Iran has not legit claim to the SOH. But I haven't heard anyone actually talk about taking Iran to International court in pursuit of damages.

And then have those damages paid out of the frozen assets.

I think it is a slam dunk case in International court. Of course Iran would ignore it, but that is the deal the funds are there to pay out of the frozen assets.

Surprised this has not got more traction here:

https://t.co/W4zjNqnmCt

— U.S. Central Command (@CENTCOM) June 26, 2026

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TAMPA, Fla. U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces conducted strikes against Iran, June 26, as a powerful response to yesterday's attack on a commercial ship that was transiting the Strait of Hormuz.
U.S. aircraft struck Iranian missile and drone storage locations and coastal radar sites after Iran hit M/V Ever Lovely on June 25 with a one-way attack drone. The Singapore-flagged cargo ship was exiting the Strait of Hormuz along the Omani coast at the time of Iran's attack.

The unwarranted aggression against commercial shipping by Iranian forces clearly violated the ceasefire. Furthermore, Iran's dangerous behavior undermined freedom of navigation as commerce increasingly flows through the vital international trade corridor.

CENTCOM forces continue to provide safe passage coordination and support to commercial vessels transiting the strait. The U.S. military remains present and vigilant to ensure all aspects of the agreement with Iran are adhered to, obeyed, and in full force and effect.

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BBC Article with further context:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg590wqxwpo

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Ebrahim Azizi, head of the Iranian parliament's national security commission, though, said on social media that the US had "attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations once again".

He continued in his social media post: "This reckless violation of the ceasefire will, as always, lead to retreat and regret on their part. The blame game does not work anymore."

Speaking to reporters at the White House on Friday afternoon, Trump refused to be drawn into questions on how the US might respond to the drone attack, or whether he viewed the ceasefire as still intact.

"You'll find out," he said. "I don't like the fact that they took a shot yesterday. They shouldn't be doing that."
Asked why he believed Iran would conduct such an operation, Trump said only that "they're a little bit different".

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NGL, I chuckled a lil bit on that last sentence.

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The Singapore container ship hit by a single / drone "projectile" with no casualties and minor damage?

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The one that caused us to blow up more **** in Iran, make a farce of this "ceasefire", and Trump to make statements about it? Yeah, that one. Why are you downplaying it? Do we need to have a full sinking with massive casualties for it to be real for you?

DeschutesAg said:

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Ignore ftc's complaints and do continue posting important links and sources.

That is a very interesting oped. Interesting because of the author's position and the truths he states and the numerous blatant bald-faced lies his propaganda piece contains. Unlike Israeli governments of 30 years ago, the Netanyahu factional government is not and never has been America's friend. Benji's coalition sees us as gullible dupes to be used. Netanyahu literally tells us that every day.

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Literally? Can I get a link to this?

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nortex97 said:

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This is a red flag.

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Ahmari is a leading figure in the Post Liberal movement, of which Vance has aligned himself with.

Trying to tie this to some sort of Persian blood feud, is a bit much.

Remember, Sohab converted to Catholicism (same as Vance).

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Maybe, but I just don't think this is a 'good' guy, and his presence as an advisor to Vance is highly disappointing, to say the least, reflecting very poorly on JD Vance' judgment more than anything else imho. I don't really care about his denomination/personal religion (nor JD's, to be frank).

His take on Pahlavi is among the least 'problematic' views to me as the latter is pretty much irrelevant absent a revolution, but he's clearly been a loud mouthpiece for the IRGC and has openly criticized the administration/war, in addition to innumerable other takes which I'd classify as 'idiotic' more than anything else.

Sohrab Ahmari went on Megyn Kelly right after the February Iran strikes to declare his strong opposition to the war. He claimed Israel had dragged the U.S. into it and attacked the Trump administration for breaking its campaign promises.

These reports that he has access to the… pic.twitter.com/b4pulxEXZp

— Justin (@JustinUSA) June 26, 2026

Anyway, some good news.

BREAKING: Lebanese MPs celebrate the agreement between Israel and Lebanon, directly calling out Hezbollah as the root of all problems between the two countries.

A new Middle East is on the horizon. pic.twitter.com/yyk3XXrPgO

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) June 27, 2026

Was just about to post that.

Ahmari is not someone we want anywhere near anything.

Great to see that Israel Lebanon deal. Get Hezbollah & Iran out. Iran and its terrorist proxies are #1 source of conflict. Ahmari believes they are the victims

Would be unsurprising to me to learn that certain Dems are advising the Iranians during this conflict due the TDS and anti-Americanism on the left.

Wonder what Iran sympathizers like Valerie Jarrett and Obama - or extreme TDS folks like John Bolton - are up to?

(Note: I realize John Bolton just pled guilty to his document shenanigans )